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My point is that when you're in doubt, you should always interpret the situation the most optimistic way possible.

I hope I'm make sense here :)
Makes perfect sense and it's something that everybody should try to work on. . . it's simply a choice.


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Wow Daniel, just got to say that your progress is phenomenal! I read your posts every single day and I can definitely relate. I know this is kind of irrelevant, but I just want to say thanks cause you helped me facebook close a girl yesterday.

I'm still fairly new to PUA and went sarging at the mall yesterday. I met an amazing girl, but I didn't have the guts to close her. As I drove away from the mall, I thought to myself what would AFC Daniel do. So I went back and was straight up honest with her, finally getting her facebook info.

So Daniel, keep up the good work. You're helping out a lot of guys out there. Thanks!


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@James The Third & @kasabi

A choice again. Got it. The only strange thing is I'm supposed to go to the cinema on Monday with her roomate... I'll see on Monday if it's clearer.

@Seiya7 & Unforeseen

Thank you guys. Actually one of my best friends is in Singapour right now. He is also doing great, even better than me! That gives me even more motivation to keep up! It's amazing how knowing that someone is going through the exact same journey in an other part of the world can help you to move forward.

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Quick Update.

Little Miss Sunshine.
I called her yesterday, she did not answer. I told her that it was okay for tonight for the cervejada party. She answered later that it has been cancelled... I told her that it was too bad since I cancelled another stuff to get there. "Guess I'm staying at home tonight, unless you still wanna go to the cinema". She answered that she could not since she had classes (yesterday it was okay, but now she has classes?). She told me: "who knows, maybe we'll get our ice-cream Sunday"... lol. Let's wait until Sunday then... on to the next one.

Smiling Artist.
I'm seeing her in 2 hours. I still have to read some material about routines and teasing. I have to think about what to seed as a next date too: a cinema? not original... ice-cream?... never worked (lol). My goal will be simple: enjoy myself, have fun and make it a memorable date.

Party tonight.
I almost forgot. I'm going to a party tonight. Open bar. Boys and girls separated until midnight.

Nothing for the weekend for now though...

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Quick Update.

Little Miss Sunshine.
I called her yesterday, she did not answer. I told her that it was okay for tonight for the cervejada party. She answered later that it has been cancelled... I told her that it was too bad since I cancelled another stuff to get there. "Guess I'm staying at home tonight, unless you still wanna go to the cinema". She answered that she could not since she had classes (yesterday it was okay, but now she has classes?). She told me: "who knows, maybe we'll get our ice-cream Sunday"... lol. Let's wait until Sunday then... on to the next one.
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^These are tears of joy. In my mind, this is the beginning of your journey. Everything else was 'warm-up' to get to this point. No reason to blame the canceled party, her, the weather, classes . . . it's just a hearty "LOL" and continue the process. This is game. Keep going on this path . . .

A little analysis:

This current 'bland' situation is the outcome of her and your bland input into your relationship. If you ask her, ""Guess I'm staying at home tonight, unless you still wanna go to the cinema," of course her answer will be just as iffy. Even if she can't technically make it on that night, had you told her, "No party? That's great, I was actually looking forward to the movie even more. How about if we grab some cocktails at _____ and hit the movies from there?" she would have been more positive of a re-schedule.

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DAY 55: at the modern art museum on a date?
Handling a weird situation.

Context.
I called Smiling Artist Sunday and invited her to go to a modern art museum so we can take some pictures. We agreed on meeting at 3pm. The plan was me, her in the museum with our cameras. Lately I had some doubt about her being single, but since she came to me on Facebook and texted me to join her at her bar, I thought she was actually single and interested in me.

Adressed issues.
- A month and a half in Brazil, still no real date! :(
- I have been having some difficulties with KINO escalation.
- Teasing has to become natural to me.
- I have to get comfortable in a date environment.

Goals.
- Enjoy myself, have fun.
- Making the date memorable.
- Seed another event.

Strategy.
I've read some thread on teasing (Jay Wa's thread: the-best-tease-routines-by-jay-wa-vt18584.html) and routines. I've also read some date reports in other journals. I wanted to be funny and escalate with KINO with the small routines I've studied right before. Photo and art talks would be my allies here: I had even some photographies from the Louvre in my camera :)
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I was 10 minutes late but she was not here. I texted her that I was waiting in front of the entrance. I took some pictures while waiting and sit in front of the museum entrance. She texted me back that she will meet me in 10 minutes. I started to take a look at the pictures in my camera. At some point I raised my head and saw her coming in my direction with a guy. Yes. With a guy, the one I knew she's been spending some time with. He's 27yo. The first time I've actually met her, she was with him. And now, here I was, in front of the museum waiting for her and the guy. I raised my hand with a smile (I was actually sincerely smiling on the situation, lol). I felt a bit ridiculous but decided to handle it, I had no choice anyway. I've been reading so muuuch material that I was looking forward to apply it.

Me, her and the guy.
We entered and got into the first exposition (which was boring by the way). I froze. I couldn't do anything that I wanted to do with her since he was here. So I just kept walking with them, spoke with the guy like nothing was ackward. At some point, the guy told me he had to leave earlier. Thanks whoever made this happen. She was not that single but at least I would be able to practice on a date environment. He finally left and say goodbye to Smiling Artist by holding one of her hand.

Me, her and the nice lady.
Once the guy left, I was a bit better but I was still having some difficulties to start the engine. The museum was actually really small. We quickly saw everything and I had shown no game at all. I managed to make her sit on a bench. I started to actually really speak to her about art and all. A woman noticed I was not from Brazil and started to talk about Europe. I was really friendly with her and engaged Smiling Artist in the conversation since she has never been in Europe. After that interaction, I was all in.

Finally teasing!
Finally! Little by little, the conversation strated to be interested. We spoke about several stuff including photos of course. Since she was good at street and architecture photography, I used a small script I've thought about on the afternoon.
ME - Before being a top-model, I actually wanted to be an architect [scripted]
HER - You've been modeling? [she did not get the joke, lol]
ME - Haha, no I was joking, but thanks.
ME - What about you, what did you want to be before being annoying? [scripted, I teased her for being annoying earlier on facebook]
HER - Haha, I wanted to be an architect too [she was smiling, I was liking that.]
Little after, I used another another small teasing routine that I've found on Jay Wa's thread.
ME - Damn, you're annoying, is there a button to turn you off? [I looked are her back, but no KINO]
I teased her a lot on several thing: her Portuguese (lot of words that I dunno), her being young, her studying Physics. I also learned that she is taking class of dressmaking. I told her that if she becomes a designer, I could be a model and help her develop a business out of it.

I tried to seed an event (a cinema) but have no real response from her... and since she might not be single, I did not insist.

Anyways, she had to left so she kissed me goodbye the French way (one kiss in both cheeks, I've done that the first time I saw her, she remembered) and teased me a bit before leaving. Her birthday is coming on Sunday and she told me she won't call me because I was annoying. She was joking obviously. A few minutes later, I received a text message.
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and I am the annoying one? hehe
I think that's good stuff actually. I like her a lot.

[update:She actually came to me on Facebook and say hello... "just to say hello"]

Results: Ouch. She's not single (yet they have not been kissing or anything, and when I tried to know a bit more about their relation, I get no answer). I did not seed an event and apply any KINO. I did tease a lot though and used some routines I've prepared. I've really enjoyed myself in the end, I was myself and I think she liked me.
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On the strategy.
I think reading material before going out on a date is a good thing since it makes me be prepared and think about what I should do. I even did a cheat sheat on my smartphone It's the best way to get used to the routines and teasing scripts. I'm really getting used to teasing girls lateky. I'm also kind of proud since I handle this weird situation and get some experience out of it. Now, I also know a nice place to take other girls too. I can also use her to meet new people.

On the game.
- The Game is full of surprises, it's not a question of good or bad ones. What makes it a bad surprise is the bad reaction. My reaction was not perfect but I handled it. It's just about adaptation.
- Cheat sheats are useful: it makes you think before you go on stage and helps you remember material.
- Teasing works: making a bit fun of the target helps on building a unique relation with them.

Questions to move on.
- Am I being enough clear about my intentions? Should I actually be clearer and tell her "by the way, it's a date"?
- Am I seeing too much IOIs where there is none?

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Ok, In answer to your questions. She is young, and nothing is ever easy. Listen to James the third, what is the most optimistic possiblility in regards to her relationship status? Is it that she likes two guys? Is it that she wanted to compare you and and him? Could she be TRYING to elcit a competition between you and him? Who cares? She txts you, she wants to hang out with you and laughs at your teasing, that is three IOI's right there.

My question is, why not ask her what the deal is with the other guy? Straight forward, "Hey, photography is fun, you're fun, I'm fun, what is with the other dude?" In that order, build the rapport and then use it to make your ends meet.

Does your ideal self pussyfoot around, asking the pua community what they think about her relationship status or does super Daniel ask bitches what he wants to know? When he gets an answer like "Yeah, thats my boyfriend" Does Super Daniel say, "you mean USED to be your boyfriend" or does his bottom lip tremble and chokes on his words?

My point is Daniel, when you are in the moment, things seem overwhelmingly important, emotional and complex. But, objectivly from the future tense or far from the outside, like myself, the reality of the situation is much more cut and dry.
Practice in awkward situations is good, and you did what you could and came out fine, no less a man, no more. So, even steven, the ball is still in your court, find an excuse to demand her presence, txt her your invite, and see what happens, you could escalate and never mention the other dude if you want, and get away with it, or you can ask your questions if you must know and get away with it if you play it cool. The ball is in your court, and if it blows up in your face, guess what, there are lots of balls out there.

"Hey, the the museum was kinda lame, good thing I am so cool, how would you like to annoy me over dinner tomorrow?"

"Was just looking at the photo's from the other day, your smile is ridiculous :), we can go for dinner saturday and work on it"


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My question is, why not ask her what the deal is with the other guy? Straight forward, "Hey, photography is fun, you're fun, I'm fun, what is with the other dude?" In that order, build the rapport and then use it to make your ends meet.
Something like ^this. . . although I would opt for a more relaxed approach . . . "Does your boyfriend have a date tonight?" - achieves the same thing + it doesn't drive her into a 'corner'. Sexual tension ≠ mental interrogation.
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"you mean USED to be your boyfriend"
I know what you're getting at but really . . . ^this is silly. She says she has a boyfriend or she doesn't. If she's digging Daniel, she will leave some space regardless of whether she has a boyfriend or not. So far, I'd say she's leaving some room here.

Daniel, this is the kind of thing that makes all of this fun + funny. Any how,

1. Things are not as they seem. Do you know for sure that they are a couple or are you assuming?

2. Why didn't she mention the boyfriend even once? Why the weak hand shake with him and kisses for you? Your average 'boyfriend' does not leave his girlfriend alone with some random artsy French guy. Even if she claims that the guy is her boyfriend, things simply don't match up.

3. She's a young kid. I really forgot about all the skittish games of young girls but what she did isn't that extraordinary. She could have been a bit nervous and asked a good friend to tag along.

Next step: Find out if she's single by keeping in touch with her once in a while then in a week or two, asking her out to cocktails + figure out her "boyfriend situation". Ask her something like, "Shall I reserve a romantic bar table for the three of us?"
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"Hey, the the museum was kinda lame, good thing I am so cool, how would you like to annoy me over dinner tomorrow?"
Not to pick on you Insert but this is the type of thing lots of guys try out after years of treating themselves like a eunuch. It's as if they pulled the rubber band so hard in one direction that their insecurities have flung all the way to the other side. There's really nothing more lame than a grown up who rides his bike around town with no hands exclaiming, "Look at me mom, no hands . . ."


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@Insert.

I actually met her thanks to the guy, and I remember that I tried to get information about it. It was like: "oh you came with your boyfriend". I had no answer, she just looked at me surprised so I guessed they were not together but just friends.

At the museum, she told me she was practicing some sport and I took the opportunity to say something like: "yeah so you can spend more time with him" (they do it together). I had no reaction again. I'll be more direct next time.

But the thing is, I think he does like her, and she might like him too. They spend a lot of time together but in the same time, they do not act like what I would call a couple.

Anyways, that's not even the problem. I know the guy and he made it clear to me that he was into her. I will see her again at some random event, tease her and all but I might should be careful about all this...

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Daniel, this is the kind of thing that makes all of this fun + funny.


Indeed :). I smile about it... it's the "I can't believe this is happening" smile.

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1. Things are not as they seem. Do you know for sure that they are a couple or are you assuming?

2. Why didn't she mention the boyfriend even once? Why the weak hand shake with him and kisses for you? Your average 'boyfriend' does not leave his girlfriend alone with some random artsy French guy. Even if she claims that the guy is her boyfriend, things simply don't match up.

3. She's a young kid. I really forgot about all the skittish games of young girls but what she did isn't that extraordinary. She could have been a bit nervous and asked a good friend to tag along.
1. I'm only assuming here. I'm just sure that he is interested and she's giving some approval to it.
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2. Good questions. The weak handshake was more a romantic way to say goodbye by holding her hand. They did it right in front of me. But on the other hand, they don't kiss, they don't hold their hands and she comes to me a lot... That's strange to me, might be cultural. I'm a bit lost. I'll simply ask.

3. I thought about it too. But the way he said goodbye tells a lot. I don't know if they are together, maybe it's recent, maybe they're not even together, he's just trying to have her...
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Next step: Find out if she's single by keeping in touch with her once in a while then in a week or two, asking her out to cocktails + figure out her "boyfriend situation". Ask her something like, "Shall I reserve a romantic bar table for the three of us?"
Sounds good.

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DAY 55: a crazy Brazilian student party.
My best party so far.

Context.
I had my funny (non-)date on the afternoon with Smiling Artist. The situation was a bit awckward but I handled it and finally managed to enjoy myself. This was important since I was supposed to go to a party the same day at night. Princess and the German girls with whom I use to spend some time with insisted for me to come.

Adressed issues.
- I'm not comfortable enough in a club environment.
- I'm not comfortable enough about dancing.
- I can't really let myself go.
- I need to get used to escalate

Goals.
- Enjoy myself, have fun!
- Dance with at least one girl.
- Escalate!

Strategy.
I've read 60yoc again to get a good state of mind. Again, the first 30 minutes are the more important. I also knew that if I wanted to be confident for the party, I needed to avoid micro-avoidance at all cost. I've also made a cheat sheet with some routines, scripted tease lines...(Jay Wa's thread being a reference again).
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I joined my Canadian friend in order to go to the club where the party was hosted. Since we were going by bus, we had to ask for direction several time. It was a good opportunity to overcome the micro-avoidance and get the confidence for tonight. I opened a group of two students girls and various other guys.

A lot of things happen in the party, so I won't be able to tell everything in order. So here are just some key elements.

Arriving at the club.
Boys and girls were separated for one hour, so I've been with only guys for the first crucial 30 minutes. At the very beginning I was not that confident, the girls were hot at the entrance and I could tell that most of the guys were here to get girls (gross talk in the line to get in). Once in the club, my friends went directly to the bar and gave me some drinks. I remembered about the 30 first minutes so I started to be friendly with everyone, shaking hands and all. Most of the exchange students were there and I even saw a friend from my school in France that was doing an exchange in an other university here. I even saw Daniel (remember the natural PUA?) with him. I've been really social and it gave me a good state of mind. The truth is, for the first time of my life I was a bit tipsy, but actually feeling good.

Stripper.
At some point, a stripper came on stage. That was dirty. I've just never seen this... She end up totally naked in front of an audience of crazy guys screaming some dirty things to her... Damn, this country is crazy. I thought about you guys and took a little video, I'll delete it soon so enjoy.

NSFW! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll-95KQeWLM

Little after, the girls were released. lol.

Little Brunette and Peruvian Girl.
Remember in class? The Peruvian Girl told me that I should ask Little Brunette out. Well I saw Little Brunette at the party and started to speak to her. I did some KINO (claw, I got closer...) and I even kissed her in the cheek. At some point, the Peruvian Girl came and asked me if she was interrupting something. I did not hear and ask her 3 times to repeat what she said... (arg). Then I got it, I was surprised again and replied: "you should ask her"... Damn, that was bad again but I thought I'll see them later on.

Princess.
Princess, their roomates, was one of the girls that told me to come at the party. I saw her at the entrance, I hugged her and left for the guys party. I've seen her right after the two Peruvian girls. She was wasted and I saw her kissing at least two guys (not at the same time). She ended up on a couch for the rest of the evening. She puked (sexy stuff). The two Peruvian girls spend almost all the party taking care of her (unfortunately).

German Girl.
You remember the two German girls (Behind Blue Eyes and German Girl)? I've been spending a lot of time with them. I've been teasing German Girl a lot actually, I've been telling her how mean she was... Well, I went crazy tonight. I danced with her, sometimes really close... she told me I was a good dancer (f*ck yeah!). I've tell them that they were my favorite German Girls ever. Later in the party, I hugged German Girl and started some direct talk. I was against a wall, she had her righ leg between my legs. I had a huge boner... she actually probably (surely!) felt it. I gave her several kisses on the cheek.
HER - bla bla [can't remember but she said something to show me she liked me]
ME - if you like me, what are you waiting for to kiss me? [Dunno if it's good game but I loved myself when I said that]
HER - ... [I made her shy! haha]
HER - I can't... [she was on my right shoulder]
ME - Why? [I wanted to get the eye-contact back, but she did not let me and stayed on my shoulder]
HER - cuz' it's bad [lol]
ME - why would it be bad? I'm a good kisser you know...
HER - cuz' you're drunk. [she was not]
ME - I am not that drunk... [true actually, it's not the alcohol which made me say that, but the huge boner I had]
HER - but I'm taken... [she had a boyfriend so she could not kiss me, but standing close enough to feel my dick is okay. lol, I love women]
Anyways, I started to ask question about him... Dunno if it's good game again but well, I need to try stuff.
ME - Do you love him?
HER - [can't remember]
ME - I used to be in love too [dunno why I lied... I guess I thought the romantic guy I was/am could have helped me ] but we broke-up and now she's engage to somebody else.
HER - owww [she got even closer to me :)]
ME - but I was not ready for that you know, I'm too young to be engaged, I'm just a kid you know [not that good but well, I played the sincerity card]
HER - do you like me?
ME - what's that question, I am the one who wanna kiss... [should have said, I'm not "in like".]
Anyways, she was not complying.
ME - okay, you know what, I'm leaving to see other friends.
HER - why? [she was panicked, I loved it]
ME - you're not single, you're just taking advantage of me... that's not fair. [arggg, not good I think]
HER - bla bla [can't remember]
I kissed her on the cheek, I managed to get some of her lips. I went to see some friends like it was nothing. I saw her later again.

Behing Blue Eyes
I've met her even before German Girl. I used a scripted teasing line on her:
ME - I'm a bit drunk right now. You should be careful...
HER - Why?
ME - I get lipsy when I'm tipsy. [scripted]
HER - Haha, I'm not affraid, you're a nice guy... [arg.]
Later, after the interaction with German Girl, I ended up being alone with Behind Blue Eyes.
ME - I think German Girl feel a bit bad.
HER - What did you do to her
ME - Nothing, I've just been myself... I did not know she has a boyfriend.
I can't remember clearly but I asked her for a kiss at some point. She gave me a kiss on the cheek. I asked on the lips, she answered "Sorry I can't". A few minutes later she was about to leave, I kissed her on the cheek really close to the lips.

I left some hours later. I stayed and danced a lot. The other Daniel was already making out with a Brazilian girl, like most of the guys on the room. Even one of my Italian friend who has a girlfriend made out with two girls during that party. Making out in a party? Later for me... I was not comfortable enough. I'll get used to it though.

Results: I had soooo much fun. I've danced with girls (and well, lol) and successfully escalated with German girls.
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On the strategy.
Approaching on the streets before going to the party has given me a huge confidence boost. Focusing on making the first 30 minutes good also helped me a lot. Yet, I was unable to open strangers that night... I should work more on that next time. I also failed on getting a real kiss close, but that was not my goal anyway. But one thing is sure, if I want to kiss, I just have to go for it instead of asking!

On the game.
- Girls don't feel insulted when you want to kiss them. Behing Blue Eyes was actually sorry for not being able to give me a kiss... lol.
- You can escalate a lot with "taken girls" but there might be more resistance though.
- Night game is a lot of fun.
- Dancing with a girl is not that hard! It's really useful to escalate!
- Feeling the sexual tension while gaming is amazing!

I loooooove the Game.

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Quick Update.

Here's a quick update on the party aftermath.

German Girls.
I saw German Girl and Behing Blue Eyes the day after. I though it would be awkward but it was not, I just behave like everything was normal... Actually it was normal, I wanted to kiss them yesterday night, that's all. We spoke a bit about the party and laughed about it.

Little Miss Sunshine.
She came to me on Facebook and told me that one of her friend saw me "crazy" at the party the night before. lol. At least now she knows I can have fun now.

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"Photography is fun, Im fun, you are fun, what is the deal with the other dude"

Sorry, did not mean for daniel to say this verbatim, just an example of the course the convo should follow. I like the "does your boyfriend have a date"

"You mean USED to be your boyfriend"
Once again, hyperbolic to get the point across. Point being, Daniel maintaining a dominitive mindset is important.

No offense taken,

I for one, would like to see someone excited to be riding their bike with no hands, and would take the oppourtunity to send a high five his way for impressing his mother. The point being, when you are 24, impressing your mother is not far off of reality, and I realize if you are gaming a 35 (or 50) year old real estate agent with one divorce (or five) under her belt, you will be less likely to be cocky and juvenile and more likely to be subtly witty and mature. A 22 year old girl who is playing games and enjoys being called "annoying" might smile after the hypothetical txt I came up with. And Kasabi, emotionally, I have always been a cocky Enuach, no pendulum attached to my insecurities as far as I know.
Has Anyone ever shot themselves in the eye with a rubber band...

Anywho, Daniel: Your club game is lacking in that you indeed talk too much. Getting your boner rubbed against is a prime time to push the escalation and get her to the point of wanting to kiss you. What is your opinion of this interaction with the german girl? Were you using your body language and routines like gamblers vids say you should? Asking her to kiss you rarely works unless you have her foaming at the mouth prior to asking.


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Daniel this is one of those moments where you have to step out of your comfort zone and do something different. Remember no girl likes "the nice guy" so unless the other guy is a really close friend of yours then i dont think you should take him into consideration. I mean yea so he likes her too, but so do you its survival of the fittest and you obviously have the upper hand here.

and as far as the art girl goes, it would probably be best to kino more and let her know your intentions before you fall into the "friends zone"

if you kino and get her comfortable with your touch it'll be a lot easier to kiss her when the time comes. Imagine what girl is gonna be comfortable kissing you if shes not comfortable with your touch.

you can use the photo routine to kino and get the message across, if you dont know it heres a quick summar. You tell her to take a picture with you (either with a camera or a phone). you take one with you and her smiling, one with you and her with a serious or angry face, and the last one of you kissing(either on the cheek or lips) and then look at the pictures together and say "wow, we make a great couple dont we?" if she is cool with it then youre in, but if shes a little iffy about it then just play it off and say something C&F like "hm... but obviously weve still got a lot of work to do"

hope i could help im rootin for ya bro!


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Daniel, if you would've talked less and just went for it I'm pretty sure you would've been like your Italian friend.

I don't know if you were trying to get with the girl with a BF, but this is one of the better ways of handling BFs that I've experienced: http://www.puagathering.com/forums/f6/s ... nique-177/

You may want to look over this guys mindset if you haven't already: clozer-2010-lay-reports-vt60207.html?highlight=
Indeed Hobbit, I talked too much. I need some practice to calibrate all that. But truth is I made that choice at some point instead of just going for it. I was not sure what I wanted since I was not that attracted to her so the most easy solution I guess was to let her choose... That might be a first explanation to that. But yeah, that was pure ego-masturbation. I confess.

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