What she's like:
27 that looks more 35. I guess she was super hot when she was younger (10) but because of aging she's a 7-8 now (face) with a 10 body

How we met:
online dating, messaged a bit back and forth. i negged her a lot, she laughed a lot, gave me her phone number and she wanted to meet.

i texted her a couple of times funny things, she laughed, then i called her, asked her out. It went well and we met


First date:
we met in a bar she had chosen. It wasn't awrkward

The SPAM was super relaxed, she seemed very interested.
I negged her, she would be laughing out loud, hitting me or shoving me away in a playful way. After some IOI like that, I went kino, asked her about her hands and touched them. Then we went on talking. I suggested we move to another bar.
We did (2 hours had already passed and it was late during a work week for both).
I chose a place where we can sit next to each other, went on further with kino, we had a good time, then she turned on me completely and looked very interested.

By that time I usually get them to go more kino, get in to a mood but here it didn’t happen. Yet, it was still working. She looked at her watch and said, oh, it’s late (it was very late and we both had to work early). I said “yeah, I gotta go too”

I brought her to her car. On the way there she “stumbled” into me twice.
She said: hopefully we see each other soon.
When we hugged good bye, she tried to give me a kiss on the cheek.
Noticing that (how stupid), I automatically tried to kiss her back on the cheek in that instant (like someone desperate). Although it was really cold outside she stayed in front of her car shivering and talking for a couple of more minutes before I said good bye.

I waited more than a day before texting her (maybe I should have waited a little longer) with a funny text, she replied laughing but no question or whatever.
I send her another text after a day (also pretty funny one) and she replied laughing again, without any real respond.

My analysis:
She was attracted to me , and when she stumbled in she wanted me to lay my arms around her. When saying good bye, she wanted me to take action instead of being the wuss I appeared to be.
Also, I didn’t show any lust or desire for her as a woman the whole time so maybe she missed the sexual tension.

What now? I thought about not messaging her a few days, then calling her and asking her to go out again as we had a good time.

Any suggestions? Feedback?

this is my 5 cents...

you were with her for 2 hours give or take a little more... and you didn't go in for a kiss. you probably felt when you were alone with her you wanted to kiss her. and by being with her for 2 hours she probably felt you were afraid to go in for the kill.

i make sure when i sense the girl's interest i show her i'm attracted and to build sexual tension... like i would say "if this place wasn't so crowded we'd having a heavy make out session" they usually laugh and feel the tension.

the girl has to know you're attracted to her physically and emotionally... not just interested in her... she has to feel that tension.

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Thanks or the feedback flyhotstuff,
I agree. That's what practice is for, right?
The question is how to proceed from where I am standing now?

start taking more risks in fact.... lots of risks!!! you need to be willing to push the physically interaction much further. start taking risks in every area of your life push the limits of the boundaries and no is simply a speed bump to a yes(yes from other women and other interactions)

do not neg her too much. i've been guilty of this and trust me when you do they feel like you're probably not that interested in them and they either lose interest or leave. and both ways you lose the girls. cocky funny is great! jokes are great! keep it up!

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I agree that you shouldn't neg her too much...according to MM negs are meant for several reasons:

1. Show IODs right after approach to lower shields
2. Create interest and make her wonder why you aren't hitting on her

In addition, once you get past M2 and into M3 (which you were) negs are only needed on occassion to keep her on her toes. (little bit of cat-string perhaps). When you said that she used to be a 10 but was now a 7-8 face I can guarantee she knows that too and her self-esteem isn't going to be through the roof.

Having said this, clearly you did well b/c she was initiating physical contact and kissed your cheek. Now you need to go for it...I would suggest triangle gazing (eyes and lips) and saying something like what flyhotstuff said: Or the classic MM line "Do you want to kiss me?"
Yes = Yes
Maybe = you kiss her and ask questions later
No = IOD, DHV, Compliance Test, Rinse, Repeat

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A lot of people mistake NEGs for teasing, by the time you are on day 2 with her, you should completely abandon the idea to use NEGs unless her bitch shield for some reason shows up again or she starts to having bad behaviors.
Just stick with being funny and teasing.
She already knew that you're interested enough to go on a date with her, why are you keep disqualifying yourself with negs for?
And yes, your analysis was right, she was giving you massive hint within the short amount of time to her car. Accidentally kino, linger in front of the cars, even tried to initiate a kiss. And you missed all those cues. You should read some book on body language, it will become super easy to read and timing her emotions, IOIs is just the beginner gimmick , real body language study will help a lot.
The second thing I wanna mention is the kino, you probably stick with the safe zones or we could say friendly kino and didn't go for sexual escalating. Take some risk next time.

Here's a list of books to read from the General Questions/Q&A sticky:

1. The Game by Neil Strauss - A detailed memoir of one man's unique journey through the seduction community.
2. Venusian Arts Handbook by Mystery - Explains Mystery Method, the most widely taught method of pickup today, made popular by Neil Strauss's "The Game" and the VH1 reality TV-show series, "The Pickup Artist."
3. Body Language by Allan Pease - Explanations of better body language and proper posture.
4. Awaken the Giant Within by Anthony Robbins - Inner game help and positive motivation.
5. Real World Seduction by Swinggcat - Teaches "being the prize" and using tension to seduce.
6. Introducing NLP by Joseph O'Connor and John Seymour - An introduction to NLP and more importantly effective communication skills regardless of what method you're using.
7. Secrets of Female Sexuality by David Shade - for powerful sexual framing.
8. My Secret Garden by Nancy Friday - for a look into the female mind on fantasies.
9. The Attraction Code by Vin DiCarlo - An excellent in-depth guide on how to think in terms of attraction and becoming a natural.
10. The Way of the Superior Man by David Deida - What it means to be a man.
11. The Zen of Meeting Women by Max Weiss - A nice, easy-going guide to natural game that combines Zen Buddhism with pickup

I'm actually about to crack open Body Language by Pease tomorrow...looking forward to it.

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Thanks a lot for all the feedback guys!
I will keep you updated on the status and try some risky stuff (because it's fun!). I usually do that and don't care shit with average women, but with hot babes, somehow i'm hesitant. Got to get rid of that over time.
Thanks for the literature recommendations, too. I read Neil Strauss "the game" and some basic psychological stuff on body language and i'll look into the others.
This forum is fun!

Thanks a lot for all the feedback guys!
I will keep you updated on the status and try some risky stuff (because it's fun!). I usually do that and don't care shit with average women, but with hot babes, somehow i'm hesitant. Got to get rid of that over time.
Thanks for the literature recommendations, too. I read Neil Strauss "the game" and some basic psychological stuff on body language and i'll look into the others.
This forum is fun!

Update:
After she wouldn't answer my texts anymore I thought I had ruined it.
Instead of being an ass, I texted her a pretty honest AFC message. But after that, not only did she want to meet me again but kept texting me and calling me like I was the prize sometimes it works to be AFC I guess.


That was the message:
Hi Megan, did you get my message? I'd like to see you again. You are one of the few girls here I met so far that I really enjoyed my time with. Of course you are very attractive too, but what I enjoyed most was that I felt like talking to someone I know a while, no awkwardness or anything. And it was also really cool that you were so confident about telling me things that would embarrass others. So, I had a good time, and if you did too, let's hang out. If not, take this message as a good bye hug to give you a little fare well smile and the wish for you to have a great life