There is a girl that I really want to see if I can get. It is complicated for a couple of reasons but I am sure several third party perspectives could make it much easier.
Here are the complications.

She does jiu-jitsu with me and Is kind of our instructors favorite. This gives her pretty high value and makes me a little hesitant to fuck up.

I have never once heard her talk about an interest in men. I know she isn't gay but it is very hard to create a sexual frame with her.

She is very religious and I am very crass.

I know these may not really be big obstacles but for some reason I am drawing a huge blank on how to approach this. PLEASE HELP!

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You can't forget about me, stupid. Everywhere I go ima have my own theme music.

You are the one making it complicated. Why not ask her to hang out and get some food? Get her number so you can talk to her. If she turns you down, break her arm... just kidding Relax, she probably could use a good "workout" partner.

yeah! I agree with Chicoman, besides all girls likes to have fun and adventure

Hmm. Thanks guy but I am really looking for more in depth advice here. I know I am making this more complicated than it needs to be but I also really don't want to blow this one.

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You can't forget about me, stupid. Everywhere I go ima have my own theme music.

Come on bro -_-' never say that^ again please.

You have to get her out of that environment into regular clothes of you wanna do anything with her. She seems like a focused individual; so you might wanna ask yourself what it is you plan to do for her first? If your just going into just because she's the only hottie in your class you might wanna call it quits anyway.

This is not something that you wanna rush, if you guys see each other in class often. Remember this is not a pick up.

Now; first you wanna get cool with your instructor, this will get her to notice you. Ask him if you can stay late with him an work on youre roundhouse(or w/e). Follow his instructions an thank him. This will get him to like you, which will later allow him to indirectly express this in front of the other class. She will notice. Beat her at her own game

First off I think I will say what I want. Second off you don't practice roundhouse kicks in jiu-jitsu. Thirdly, my instructor and I are already good friends which is what makes it awkward. Fourth, this isn't helpful advice either. Thanks but I am looking for something a little more applicable to my situation.

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You can't forget about me, stupid. Everywhere I go ima have my own theme music.

Damn bro, stop being so rude. He just gave you advice (doesn't matter if it's helpful for your situation or not) and you critiqued the shit out of his advice. "First off, Second off, etc." He may not know anything about jiu-jitsu, he was just giving an example, take it as that and don't take so much offense because he said a roundhouse kick. He also wasn't demanding that you don't say that again. You're response was unecessary. If you want, "helpful advice that's a little more applicable to your situation" then why don't you go into detail EXACTLY what advice you want, so we don't make the mistake and give you the wrong advice? I'm being sarcastic.

That is actually good advice that fuze gave to you, it may not be applicable to your situation but it IS applicable to what you have told us in this thread so far.
Well put this in the OP then. Maybe think about your situation and give us ALL the details before you flame somebodies advice. We can only give you advice on what we know about your situation.

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I recognize I offended you but it seemed pretty clear that this advice wasn't very well thought out. It seemed the entire point in the post was to say "don't ever say this" and then just blah blah blah. I did not find it helpful. I don't see the value in pretending like I did. Perhaps I should have been more descriptive in the OP.

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You can't forget about me, stupid. Everywhere I go ima have my own theme music.

Lol it's cool bro; just know that when you respond like that it's make me less likely to wanna attempt to help you again or anyone who reads your response to me and finds it disrespectful hence the above poster.


Take care bro

See this is more hwo I operate. I'm just blunt, bro. Not trying to be an ass.

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You can't forget about me, stupid. Everywhere I go ima have my own theme music.

come on guys! where's the love?

bros before hoes? bros before hoes?

* now knuckle-bump *

we all get moody when we aren't getting laid!

btw, jits, i want to take up jiu jitsu... i just don't have the time

what are your thoughts on krav maga?

Don't ever fear to fuck up . . . The fear of fucking up will make you fuck up. Keep your mindset as "It's ok if I lose this one, but I'll do my best nevertheless".
Religious or not religious - it's in the human nature to reproduce. Deep inside she does in fact have a sexual beast that's locked up real good.

But considering the fact that she's religious, I wouldn't recommend trying to set a hardcore 'sexual frame' on her at once. Start it off casually and FRIENDLY, but make sure you show her that hint of sexuality. You're not there with purely friendly intentions and you gotta make sure she knows that.

If you're friendly to her - she'll respond since there's no 'threat' present. When she responds - interest starts sparking.

The more interested she is - the more likely she is to comply to your actions.

When you notice she's interested enough, ask her out and start intensifying your sexual frame with her and see how she responds to it.

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Nice! okay so I gotta figure out a good frame. Right now I think my intentions are pretty unknown so I need to let that in some more. I got some of the other stuff squared today just by clearing out any possible objections from my instructor.

Any ideas on how to start introducing this without leaving any room for weirdness? Remember, no matter which way this goes I am going to have to be spending a lot of time in-between her legs. I don't want to creep up our training for a rejection. If I creep up our training because things fall apart afterward I am okay with that.

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You can't forget about me, stupid. Everywhere I go ima have my own theme music.

As I said I meant no disrespect I was just being blunt. Who isn't getting laid? I got back from your mom's place like 5 minutes ago... jk.

Jiu-jitsu is rather time intensive unfortunately. Most of the guys up at the gym invest about 10 hours a week. On average it takes 15 years to get your black belt. So it is kind of a long road.

Krav Maga is the shit. The only problem is that unless you are receiving Israeli Military training it is really hard to find a school that isn't a glorified Tae-Bo school. There are a whole lot of bullshit Krav schools here in the US. Look up some footage from Israeli training and before you sing up at any gym make sure you watch a few classes. There is a post about Best Martial Arts that has a ton of info under health and fitness tab.

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You can't forget about me, stupid. Everywhere I go ima have my own theme music.

When I was a young boy, I took karate lessons. There was this really cute blonde girl in my class who I had a huge crush on. Of course, at that age, I had no idea how to flirt, so I simply let her beat me up whenever we sparred in order to express my affection. Although I didn't really know what I was doing, she seemed to enjoy it.

Then, one day after class, I was heading over to where I usually waited for my parents to pick me up, when suddenly, she came up from behind me, grabbed my arm, and drug me behind a nearby pillar. She then pushed me up against the wall, kissed me, and told me, "I like you."

I was flabbergasted!

Perhaps you can try to be flirtatious with her in a similar fashion? Women seem to be receptive to this sort of playful, childish behavior. At the very least, I hope my experience gives you a new perspective on your situation.

The Leading Man