Well, we always try to solve the inner game in ourselves. And when we meet a GIRL with inner game problems? How do you solve this?

By inner game problems I mean: Girls who think all men are jerks, men just want sex from them, men want to hurt them, etc. Pretty fucked up in head.

I know the easy solution is: Just walk away and find a new girl.

But I see everyday more and more of these girls getting fucked up in the head and just plain paranoid.

The thread is open for debate.

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"Their compliance is,
'Does she grab your hand?' F*ck you! I want to grab her mind. If I can
grab her mind, she'll be grabbing whatever I want, any way I want her to." - Ross Jeffries

instant next?if you are a PUA and have options,why bother?

this goes exactly to what i've been saying lately on some other thread.

seems some people think no matter what a women does "it's a shit test" and can be overcome by proper gaming.

NO. some women are fucked up.

there is a difference between shit tests and genuine dysfunction.

also, there is a difference between handling shit tests and letting yourself be walked on.

if a woman is a genuine nutjob, just like the guy above me said, walk the fuck away....

You're not a mind reader, how do you know what's going on in her mind?

Typically, people with real problems have trouble disclosing their issues even with their therapists. Most likely, what you're seeing are anal expulsive chicks who get a kick out of stirring up some emotions; these girls pretty much pick the latest drama off of the "Oprah Show Shelf" and sling it to anybody willing to listen.

Agree, tease, and flirt. If they continue to stick with the 'mental patient' role, let them play out their fantasy shit elsewhere.

Agree: Oh I totally agree. Guys are fucking nuts!
Tease: I just met this guy the other day and I swear, I think he just wanted to nail my ass. . . He didn't even want to get to know me.
Flirt: Let me tell you something, your PERSONALITY is turning me on. . . and also your breasts. Your breasts turn me on too.

As far as I know, this is more or less the best advice.

Persistence is sexy. But you got to know when to stop. You want to have fun, not to put a massive amount of energy for getting a particulary fucked up chick!

Early mPUAs let us think that we can get whichever woman you want, you only got to play the game right. Truth is, that's not the way it works. Not everyone can be your friend or will like you. It is better to accept that and focus on people who are interested in you.

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This is what I'm trying to say with this thread.


@Kasabi:
Well, I don't read their minds but they tell me this stuff.

And I'm not sure if it's always a shit test. Sometimes they have core beliefs inside their minds that just makes it impossible to have a healthy relationship.

When you find this out early it's okay. But the problem is when you find it out later in the relationship.

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"Their compliance is,
'Does she grab your hand?' F*ck you! I want to grab her mind. If I can
grab her mind, she'll be grabbing whatever I want, any way I want her to." - Ross Jeffries

I had a similar problem with my first girlfriend, it's not that, she had trouble with her inner game, she just didn't have one (low confidence and low believe in self sucess, never went out...), so me stupid tryed to fix that (by boosting her up to socialize, almost pushing her into that), obviosly that didn't worked out to well and I felt like shit but we at least found the source of her problems (which were her parents) and in the end there was something good in this, becuse she at least realized that there is a world out there.

So I can relate my case with that, altough your question is a little bit different.

Don't try to change the girl for who she is, because you can fuck up a lot more than you might think, like her personality and her mental shit, that as her women ego takes a lot of time to recover.

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I generally need 2 solid weeks of fucking to figure out that a woman is stark raving mad. Having said that, I think we have powerful instincts about people even when we first meet them. I believe we acquired these abilities as a matter of Evolutionary advantage. The problem is, a lot of people think it's "not ok" to think bad things about other people, because society has told them they're supposed to be nice or PC or whatnot. Or they simply want to lie to themselves about what's in front of them for their own reasons. Some people want to live in fantasy. I live pretty close to reality most of the time, and I don't lie to myself, so that makes it a lot easier to spot other people's bullshit. Thus, I'll see the light after 2 weeks of hard fucking and if she's crazy, I bail.
Explicitly. Verbally. People communicate all kinds of stuff through their actions and body language. The eyes are especially revealing of the psyche.

Oh... the subject was about fixing crazy chicks, not just being more effective at avoiding them. You can't fix them. You can't change people. What you can do, is plant seeds. If 10,000 other people plant the same seed, it may grow someday. People do not change on your schedule. You want her to change in hours, or days, maybe even a week. You might put up with the inconvenience of a month. She, however, will change on the order of years or even decades. Totally foolish to think people are going to change on your schedule. The older you get, the more you've been around the block, the more you'll decide that time is precious and cut your losses. Even after 30 years of marriage you can end up cutting your losses.

Don't try to fix people. Find someone who's self-repairing and isn't too broken to begin with.

Another type of inner game problem I see a lot in girls is when they're disinterested of having a sexual relationship of any kind with anyone and they just try suck some self-esteem by dressing up and hunting compliments and kissing ass guys.

Have you guys ever dealt with such girls?

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"Their compliance is,
'Does she grab your hand?' F*ck you! I want to grab her mind. If I can
grab her mind, she'll be grabbing whatever I want, any way I want her to." - Ross Jeffries

I've noticed many times this type of girls have been sexually abused when young.

Yeah, physical or mental abuse runs really deep. You can't fix that. They have to want to fix it, they'll need professional help to do it, and it'll take years. I've had male friends who were abused in some ways, and their patterns of thought are alarming. It's very difficult for them to see how they're "acting out" their psychological trauma, repeating whatever was done to them, like a child who just copies. I've been known to point it out to them. It's a rather forceful way of planting the seeds. It's still up to them to grow the seeds. It's somewhat interesting to watch the changes in a long term friend, although it can also be somewhat painful.

Okay so maybe she's been hurt in the past, or whatever. You just IGNORE it and don't FOCUS on it. You do what you would always do -- get on the same wavelength, start talking to her, exchange experiences, earn her trust, and if you like each other, guess what, most likely YOU will be her ONLY guy, because she thinks all men are jerks.

You'll be the guy who shows her different. She might fall for you hard.

Although to be honest, usually such relationships end because the GUY wants to end them because the girl wanted him too much. Funny!! But that's human nature.

Greg

There's this girl I know that has been educated her entire life that men are jerks and women are romantic sensitive human beings.

This girl never had a serious relationship and every guy she hooks up with she ends up projecting this reality to the guy.

The funny thing is that she's a slut who enjoys hanging out with guys at soccer stadiums and drinking beers.

Her cousin thought she was virgin her entire life when she presented her to me. We hooked up and I found out the truth that she's seriously fucked up in the head. I dumped every proof in front of her cousin and she couldn't believe it. She immediately changed her beliefs about women in general and about men.

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"Their compliance is,
'Does she grab your hand?' F*ck you! I want to grab her mind. If I can
grab her mind, she'll be grabbing whatever I want, any way I want her to." - Ross Jeffries

It could be simple psychology at work: "i sleep with you and you treat me like a slut! ALL MEN ARE JERKS" Ofcourse it'd be her being an easy lay and people treating her like one.

Ofcourse, I don't know the girl.

If this is the girl you described mind hacker, I wouldn't call her fucked in the head, as many girls pull this shit off.

people feel safe in roles. If her role is the girl that gets hurt by all those jerks, she'll feel safe in that.

Why does the town drunk stay the town drunk?

Because he's an alchoholic?
I really just wanted to touch on this as I find it can be very true. I was once in relationship with a female that was rather anti-social. A good HB8 but she was shy didn't like crowded areas and generally didn't interact. I pushed her to try and be more social and interact and frankly it worked. But it also had adversal effects, the relationship ended she lost many of the friends she had gained. She began sleeping around (not that I have a problem with that) cheating on her BF's. She ended up becoming a right rotten bitch.

Not saying I'm the cause of all her now evil, but it is possible I was one of many large catalysts. I feel it's best to let these people develop at their own pace, don't dabble with other peoples minds it's not our buisness to "fix" people. As PUA's we are to show women and us a good time.

Dorky-

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