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Motivation is simply a Determination or a Revenge...

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JUST EMPLOY MOTIVATED PEOPLE.

But why some people are more motivated than others is not very well understood.
Motivation in the workplace is reasonably well understood. Hiring motivated people doesn't do you any good if your managerial style destroys motivation. Motivated people need a sense of ownership and control over their work. Basically if a boss wants to keep motivated people motivated, he needs to mostly spend his time staying out of the way. Micro-managing people destroys motivation because it removes the autonomy of the motivated worker.
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I believe it stems from self belief and strong desire.
Or is it reason ?
It seems the biggest motivator nowerdays is MONEY!!!!!!!
It varies by the person. Motives can be emotional, material, or ideological. For instance, I'm not strongly motivated by money, although I do insist on getting paid well. I'm motivated by ideals of quality, improvement, perfection, or originality.


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Basically if a boss wants to keep motivated people motivated, he needs to mostly spend his time staying out of the way. Micro-managing people destroys motivation because it removes the autonomy of the motivated worker.
that is only one theory of what motivation is in the workplace, similar to the studies conducted by Elton Mayo i think and the style of management is something called lez affais? i have no idea how to spell it but it basically means when a manager is quite out the way of his employees and is either due to trust or laziness.
What motivates people varies from person to person; one person might love having control over his/her job and having more decisions whilst the other might just like wearing casual clothes and a few more breaks in the house.

Motivation within the workplace isnt what i think this thread is about though :)

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Something from "The Four Hour Body" by Timothy Ferriss:
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The Hawthorne plant of the Western Electric Company [...] The year was 1995, and their finding was significant: increasing lighting in the plant made workers more productive. Then someone pointed out a confusing detail. Productivity also improved when they dimmed the lighting! In fact, making any change at all seemed to result in increased productivity.

It turned out that, with each change, the workers suspected they were being observed and therefore worked harder. This phenomenon- also called the "observer effect"- came to be known as "the Hawthorne Effect."
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Measurement = motivation

Observe yourself. If we're talking about PU here- keep a journal. Seeing progress creates a positive feedback loop.


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Read this: http://www.about-goal-setting.com/goal- ... tress.html


Positive stress seems to do alot on your level of determination, and thus your motivation.

It also has a few tactics on the next page to reduce negative stress.


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for me there are 2 types of motivation for bigger goals, not talking about the motivation to read a book or watch a movie here.

- motivation to not lose something
- motivation to win something

From what I have noticed is that I at first not want to change my current situation. Change is scary and means you are going to have to give up things you made a part of yourself, doesn't matter if it is negative or not.

That is also why it is easier for me to act upon not losing something, it is caused by things you don't have in control. This is a motivation to not change.

For a motivation to change/win something , I needed a feeling of being completely fed up with my current situation and that requires time. Motivations like "it would be cool if I reached this or that" aren't going to bring you far, the current situation is too nice to really commit to change.


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In one sentence motivation: is state of mind, which drives you too your goal on the path of obstacles, how strong is your motivation is what is your determination on not giving up while crossing the obstacles.

In other words: ''Eyes on the prize :D''

My motivation: To improve my lifestyle and the quality of life in general (I'm not saying that I'm doing bad right now, but girls are really one of the bigger area in my life, that I want to improve :D)

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Motivation is the drive to do or achieve something. It's often linked to either passion or values, as can be evidenced by the difficulty that people have in remaining motivated while devoid of either of the afore-mentioned feelings or beliefs.

Where does it come from? It depends upon the passions and beliefs that underlay it, as well as how the individual in question was raised and what beliefs were instilled in him/her as a child.


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My motivation for this is to have a girl come round mine on a saturday night and enjoy a drink and have fun and anything else is a bonus. This for me negates any AA or hastle for obtaining the out come and makes the effort not only worthwhile but enjoyable and not seem like an effort just a juicy task to embrace.
If something feels like you dont want to do it your just going to be miserable- its got to be your 'thing' that you wanna do. It FEELS right to you.
Dont do something just because someone says its right- its got to feel right for you.Find out what works for you and you will jump to it with relish!


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Motivation in its purist form, is the primal desire to feel loved, to be fed and to be satisfied with what you have, which is driven by your ID.

In a more complicated way, its your Super EGO being happy with the balance between your EGO and ID.

But in attraction i think the quote below fits it best. That is the motivational cause and reason we are all here.

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Motivation in its purist form, is the primal desire to feel loved, to be fed and to be satisfied with what you have, which is driven by your ID.

In a more complicated way, its your Super EGO being happy with the balance between your EGO and ID.

But in attraction i think the quote below fits it best. That is the motivational cause and reason we are all here.

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Freudian Psychology.... Really?

Which part of the early 1900's did you come from?


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Ha ha Freud was a genius an innovator and a crack pot when it came to understanding the mind. He is the father of most social psychology so i would say its pretty reasonable to quote him.

Ha ha if you are part of the new wave PUA's, i don't expect you to appreciate the Game in the understanding peoples motivations or Psychology. But this is an open thread and you wanted opinions so theres mine.

Regards, Saint

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Pretty good website with easy motivational tools http://ifeelunmotivated.com/


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The reason to get up after a steep bad fall and keep striving forward towards your goals - This reason could be internal ( to prove to oneself, raise one's own self image, to raise one's own standards) or external ( to prove it to the world, to provide the best for your family or loved ones)


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Ha ha Freud was a genius an innovator and a crack pot when it came to understanding the mind. He is the father of most social psychology so i would say its pretty reasonable to quote him.

Ha ha if you are part of the new wave PUA's, i don't expect you to appreciate the Game in the understanding peoples motivations or Psychology. But this is an open thread and you wanted opinions so theres mine.

Regards, Saint
Actually, I' not much of a fan of new wave PU...

Nearly every school of psychology rejects Freudian principles. The only reason Freud is so important is that he was the first to propose a sub-conscious (and one that could generate internal conflict).

Piaget, Harry Harlow, Mary Ainsworth, John Bolwby, Lorenz and Vygotsky are far more important figures in Developmental psychology and none of them take on the "oral, anal, phallic" principle which Freudian theories revolve around.

Modern cognitive psychology is largely based on people like Turing, Chomsky and Neisser.

As for social psychology, Freuds writings have almost no impact on social psychology.

Freud himself did not conduct proper experiments, much of his research was based on ad hoc assumptions and introspection.

Freud is not in any way a leading figure in modern psychology. He's interesting from a historical perspectve but not from a informed one.


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