I see many proclaimed (not by self, of course) idiots on this forum every day. Especially giving advice, people IMMEDIATELY jump to material and DLV. Why must EVERYTHING be based on fucking Mystery Method? Heads up: I'm not a Mystery Hater. But I mean, I scroll down the comments to see what's up and I see DHV, DLV, neg, 3-second rule... the whole package. Not just Mystery, but just spitting Theory Left and Right! How many people actually get out and practice what they tell others!? I'm, of course, repeating what so many others have demanded and practice. But I mean this forum is completely USELESS browsing theory and spitting it. And of course, giving advice, don't DICTATE WHAT TO DO TO NEWBIES. I Don't care if you get laid 50 times an hour (thats really fast sex by the way... get it checked up bro) but I mean, speak from what YOU would do. The newbies view each and every one of you as gods who think that you all get laid a lot when who knows, none of us get laid ( - me, of course ). And things that work for you might not work for others!

Second of all, many of these people asking for help don't know how to talk: How to communicate with people properly. To talk, joke around, or whatever. From the way they introduce themselves, and so on, their obviously not socially tailored to speaking with fluency. Why study routines and shit when you can't publicly speak with a firm ground, look people in the eye, unwavering? In my opinion the more you just talk to people, waitresses, cashiers, barbers, so on, the better you get at it. At that point, you can deliver pre-dressed routines, or tweak your tonality, or work on your social abilities as you speak fluently. Most of it comes NATURALLY when you talk and interact more, as you store your various human interactions and adjust yourself to become more socially calibrated.

Leads me to another point. What's your reason of PUA? Is it to get chicks, get laid, get women? Of course. That's the name, Pick Up Artist. But really, how? I believe and in my personal, very own, and strong opinion, its to become a better self. I know its said and all, but admist all the DLV's thrown out there, its not said enough. So... time for the discussion.

What's your way of better improving yourself? Memorization of NLP or character building?

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Good help is so hard to find on a free site. You can only notice those who speak. You can't notice those who quietly disappear and try stuff out... unless for some reason they decide to brag about how quiet they were later.
Because we all have different skills and modalities that we bring to the table. I don't expect you to write or debate as well as I do. Doesn't mean you can't get laid.

My point is that its always confusing when two people give two opposing pieces of advice to a newbie, telling said newbie what to do and what not.

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lol reminds me of this: ego-problems-fucking-read-this-vt30361.html

Then maybe newbies should actually spent time in the field before they actually pose questions that are irrilevant because the answer has been given over & over again.

A lot of the questions "newbies" are posting in here are already covered in the sticky topics. It's not hard to find them - it's a different icon in front of the post name. That's all!

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Chief... didn't see your link .

Sorry bout that

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- Albert Einstein quotes.

If the biggest nerd of the 19th century can do it, so can you.

well you're making a few slightly different points, too. always room for more perspectives

Sometimes it's good to get an answer even if it's the wrong one. Don't worry too much about whether the advice given is right or wrong. It's more important that you get an answer and go out there and give it a try. If you fail you are one step closer to finding out what works best for you. After all "You learn from your mistakes."

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1. A lot of people start by reading The Game by Neil Strauss, this gives them the motivation to do something about their sex lives and social lives. A lot then move onto mystery method as a way of applying this, they usually join this forum for help and hence why so many talk mystery method theory on here. These people are beginners so expect mistakes Nothing wrong with that.

2. Some people find out about the PU community through different souces and end up studying certain PUA's, hence why so many people have different theory, because PUA's have their own prefernces. It is about finding out what works for you, this can be through trying all theory out and asking questions on here

3. People find out about the game and join here straight away, they have no expereince but want to do something about their life. They know almost nothing about PU and hence a lot of people asking AFC questions and believing everything they read.

The point is that 90% of the forum users are completely new to the game, so you shouldn't judge them one bit. The other 10% who have been in the game for a few months or years may like the game enough that they give their own theories and results etc

THE REST OF PUA ARE NO LONGER REGULAR VISITORS OF THIS SITE BECAUSE THEY HAVE ACHIEVED WHAT THE ORIGINALLY WANTED WHEN THEY JOIND THE FORUM. THEY HAVE A SEX/SOCIAL LIFE AND NO LONGER FIND TEH NEED TO TALK GAME.

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