The difference, kasabi, is that the ones aware of that they can do whatever they want without worrying about the consequences are clearly more comfortable with themselves than people that do worry constantly about what is going to happen if he does this or that. My point in this is to state that the ones that are more comfortable with themselves are more confident (self-comfort, believing in yourself = confidence). They don't allow their fears to create a barrier between them and success.

And as it goes for "everybody else" . . . they may not posses that same quality that will boost their success.
Alright let me make things more clear. You may have interpreted this as that the guy being successful with women does not, in fact, give a fuck about them in the first place. Right? Not my intentions at all. This is why I clearly stated that Meaning that it all goes back to my main point: Having minimal fear of the possible outcome of things and just _doing_. Not being afraid of the consequences and push your limits and comfort levels will make you so much better.

I noticed a pattern in your replies, where you enjoy taking my words and putting them in extreme situations. I'll do it for you this time:

"But Panda, are you out of your mind?? Not being afraid of the consequences and push your limits will make you better? Say that to the axe-killer that slaughtered a bunch of people, jerked off, and then came all over their dead bodies. He was worried about the consequences from the start, and he didn't know whether or not he should push his limits - but now you encouraged him to do that! You are out of your mind and my words clearly disprove anything you have to say!"

As much as I enjoy reading your creative replies kasabi (I really mean it) - I would still appreciate if you made them relevant to the situation next time.

I honestly don't know what you are accusing me of here. I never copied anything from anywhere.

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I could write an essay on this. But,I think you oughta check F.J. Shark's classic ''How To Be The Jerk Women Love''. You'll understand much better.

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Let's just take this one step at a time. I don't introduce 'extreme situations' into the discussion for my enjoyment. The point is that these 'extreme situations' and what you prescribe cannot be differentiated. Please do us a big favor and differentiate your axe-killer scenario above from:
What makes the axe-killer different from your idea of a decent pua? Take all the time you'd like.

What makes the axe-killer different from almost any PUA material/theory out there?

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^I think I can now officially call you an idiot.

Very mature. Thanks

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Already doing that dear Hobbit! I think some of the guys on the chat opened my eyes for meditation.

While you're here, would you like to share your view on this?

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You went from taking a hard stance at an idiotic, crooked view of PU to back peddling all the way to making a mockery of yourself, your initial view, and the discussion itself. To stand there and continue to recommend idiocy to others while you're fully aware that you know NOTHING about this is just retarded. You are the idiot of the month here. Congrats.

Hobbit,

You like the engine story? Meditation what? You could toss Gandhi into that 105 degree engine room, toss him a few wrenches and some belts. Every few minutes a nearby big hull will rock that boat back and forth so that inevitably, he'll drop something into the sludge of the bilge at the worst moment. Sit back, have a beer, and wait for Gandhi to scream, "Fuck you mother fucking Caterpillar! I'll kill you and your whore of a mother! And you! Fucking wrench! What you looking at! You want some?!?!" - CLANK! CLANK! CLANK! - "Take that!" This is the just the natural course of things in a 105 degree engine room. The important thing is to leave the engine room in the engine room.

It's funny how you only reply to things that aren't even relevant to the discussion itself, not to mention that you initially are, in fact, responsible for the irrelevancy of the discussion in the first place.

How about calming down, looking at the stuff that was pierced through your previous arguments - and replying to that in a sensible manner?

Shouldn't be too difficult.

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To you, the only thing relevant to your discussion is a guy who tells you, "Dur, hurh, huh. . . great! Let's just not care at all and go for it!" - Clap, clap, clap.

1, I told you that what you're recommending is no different from what the urine boy at 7/11 or the axe murderer does on a daily basis. Relevant because I would think that most PUA's wouldn't want to play the urine boy routine or the axe murderer routine. PUA's would probably want to kiss a girl instead of drinking his own urine in front of her and then chopping her head off. RELEVANT.

2. You bullshitted yourself all the way through this thread until you ran out of things to say and ended with:
Not really sure why we should continue but I'll give you one more chance. Breathe, google, wiki . . .do what ever it is that you think you need to do at least come up with something plausible that would differentiate what you recommend from what IDIOTS do on a daily basis. Please, tell me you have something more than a retarded question to answer a question. Otherwise, it would benefit you to shut up and just learn a few things instead of pretending to teach what you do not know.

If the only relevant thing for me would be "Dur, hurh, huh. . . great! Let's just not care at all and go for it!" - Clap, clap, clap. - I would have started ignoring your replies a long time ago.
I think it's pretty obvious whether or not you just play things that are socially accepted and act as a PUA should be acting - as opposed to the urine/axe-murderer routine that is just plain . . . unthinkable, but was for some reason on your mind.

Irrelevant, because . . .
I never ran out of things to say. I wanted to make a point. Point being? Just as I earlier described that the things I explained should speak for themselves and that nobody should be retarded enough to play the urine/axe-murderer routine - my point was that any routine/material out there can be misunderstood in the way that it can be applied to complete idiocy - and therefore is stupid to discuss in the first place.

Also, what I find relevant to the discussion, and what I feel that we should continue discussing, since we're having so fun already - is the whole idea that what I'm saying purely is wrong. And why it is wrong.

Not bullshit like "It's wrong because some retarded asshole might misunderstand this and use it to axe-murder people."

But more like "What you're saying is completely wrong because IT DOES NOT WORK. Why doesn't it work? Well I'll tell you why! Blah blah blah. You STILL disagree with me? Then go fuck yourself Panda "

That's what the relevancy of this discussion is and that's what I'd like for you to keep yourself too.

I'm glad we're progressing!

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Please answer the question:

Differentiate what you are recommending from what axe murderers do on a daily basis. If you cannot, just say that you cannot. Don't smear your idiocy on others in this community. Don't tell us this is not relevant. Just tell us whether you can or you cannot differentiate what you are recommending from the daily habits of the morons amongst us please. Why are you even here if what you are recommending is JUST LIKE what the idiots of the World do every day?

You told us to do what ever what we love to do. Are you for or against the axe murderer doing what he loves to do? Are you for or against the urine boy doing whatever he loves to do? Please just answer this obvious fucking question so we can 'progress'.

I like to ram broomsticks up my arse.

My input does resemble a lot of what Hobbit & Kasabi say. There is always some kind of awaraness - wether it be self-awareness or awareness about the evironment the person is acting. You act on a specific action caused by someone or something. Murphy's law. Even though you got like those guys who are like dominant - cocky and "not caring" there is something that made them this way, there is something that they cared soo deeply about that they turned this way.

& Like Kasabi said, you react on what you see, what you hear or what pick up. The best example given for this imo is; Canned openers are good - but they are far from better than observational openers.

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Please read my previous reply. I have answered this question. You're completely ignoring my replies.

But at least we're on track, so I can't complain.

Yes - an axe murderer can be motivated to do whatever the hell he loves doing, by the inspiration of my words.

No - I cannot differentiate it. At all.

So, once again, my point is . . .
So you see, this is not a matter of whether or not a retarded individual with the love for axe-murdering people will get inspired by this. This is still a matter of how you should believe in yourself to progress further.
I bet they have a low level of fear of the outcome, don't they? And they "don't give a fuck" in the sense that it doesn't matter what happens if they say this or that. It doesn't matter because they're comfortable with themselves and rejection is not enough to break through their shield of confidence.

Look at my explanation. . . Am I still completely wrong about this?

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