I find this post humorous on many levels. One being most of the guys you think are playing the "same game" are probably not involved with pua at all. Now that you are knowledgeable of pua it's like all you are thinking about when you meet a guy.
"He's so playing me right now. Ope, there's a neg. Damn he just passed my shit test this guy is good!" Lol when really this guys is just going out and having fun. Idk though maybe every one of them is involved in the community but I doubt it.

Hey girl, I'm a fellow female on this forum....known about pua for 2 years now. I have met and dated some pua's since I have known about this and I definitely do not have a negative opinion about these guys. Yes, there are some ultra-players who will just leave you, but many of those guys become players without even reading this stuff. Those guys aren't emotionally available for a relationship so you just have to practice spotting them and then learn not to take them too seriously. But with any other guy, it doesn't matter if he is trying to play you...that is good, because he is investing his time in you and that is all that matters. You play your game and you can get him wanting you, exclusively.

Many women are hurting their own love life because they have this mentality that they can't be captured. Women need to remember *If you want to be chased, you have to be willing to let yourself get caught*

Welcome to the forum...hope you stick around!

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Bonita

I agree--think of it this way: if a guy learns to dress appropriately and learns some manners because it makes it easier to meet girls, would you look at him as doing something wrong? No--you'd see him growing up and learning social conventions. Kind of like the "dress for the job you want, not the job you have" mentality. If people do that, we applaud them for being ambitious. If a guy learns PU, people knock them for doing something deceptive. But they're really the same thing.

For some guys, yes--it is a mask they don in order to get something, and underneath it is the same old person. But a good number of PUA's incorporate the skills they have, the way of life, into their lives. They grow as human beings, they stretch.

So the question becomes--are you looking to date the best, slickest, most-difficult-to-call-out PUA? Or are you looking for the best partner? That will help you choose.

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lol why on earth do guys tell their girls about pua, it completely discredits themselves

No it doesnt. My best sets have come from girls who have known that I am a PUA. I even explain stuff and discuss methods with them. Girls love relationship theories.

And there is nothing wrong with learning how to not be a creepy loser, that is what we do, really.

I don't pretend. Like that other PUA said, It's about being, and not doing. I don't go out especially just to do some magic tricks and routines, I go out and be my best self.

I myself got into PU because I kept asking myself "is there a system for this? How can I get a gf?" Seriously, I was a total wierdo and creeper. And when I found this out, not only was there a system, but there were MULTIPLE systems!!

And as I learnt a variety of systems, not only did I improve my positive impressions on women but I learnt how to be a better person in general, how to live a more interesting life, and be a social butterfly. PU is just awesome.

And to thread starter, it's really no different than going to a self help seminar cause PU is really just that, a self help seminar.

I agree Ezo. I tell girls that I'm a PUA, when enough comfort and understanding is built, they love it. They love the theories as you stated, a few even think of PUA'dom as a ballsy thing.

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Heck, telling her you're a PUA could even lead to interesting topics.

I'd probably launch into a custom NLP pattern about how women fall in love with a guy who has everything she wanted (of course I'd be planting suggestions in her mind here).

Wicked fun! I know.

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'Does she grab your hand?' F*ck you! I want to grab her mind. If I can
grab her mind, she'll be grabbing whatever I want, any way I want her to." - Ross Jeffries

Exactly.

I tell every girl on the first date that I'm a dating coach on the weekends. Sometimes I even do it on the initial approach if we're filming and I have to get her permission after the close. It usually ends up in them becoming even more curious and interested in me

Plus, think of it from her perspective. You're telling her that you're experienced with women to the point of giving men advice, you understand female psychology, and she has completely no accountability for anything that happens because "he's a pro and it just happened!"

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I met a girl who had heard of The Game book, and all of a sudden EVERY guy seemed to be using PUA tricks to get her into bed!

Chances are not one of them will have read it.

Granted, one may've heard of it, I do believe the book was on the NY Times Bestsellers list, but to actually read the book for advice would be to admit that you could do better with women or want help with women, something that a lot of guys just don't really want to admit - either because they're arrogant or their life is just fine.

the way is see it is that....
well it was that book that originally introduced me to all this.. and i have to say most guys are like that anyway... sure it teaches you somethings.. but as i was reading it.. i now had labels to put to my techniques.. all the rest was merely natural.. so maybe none of these guys have actually read it.. or maybe they all have.. but the truth is; you cant tell if they are genuine until they give up.. coz a pua just sees you as a target.. if one (or more) of them is genuine.. they will try much harder for longer for you.. the book just finetunes somethings, gives you new ideas and labels the techniques, so you can notice the easier... but you dont learn everything from it.. most guys already have the charm and wit to do that anyway.. thats what i reckon anyway

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