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Thanks @PrettyboyDave, I'll try it if I move to nightgame!

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DAY 13: seeing friends and being a man.
Bêta males in the verge to become alpha.

One of my goals right now is to reconnect with old friends in order to extend my circle of friends and get my social life back. So yesterday, I went out to get a drink with a 8 friend the afternoon and went to Paris in the evening to meet another group of friends.

Reconnecting with HB8.
The last time I saw her, it was 2 years ago, she was in a relationship and seemed ou of my league. I contacted her a few days ago through Live Messenger and then called her to have some news and ask her when she was available to get a drink. We agreed on getting a drink in a small mall next to my house. We were supposed to meet at the fast food at the corner.

MY GOALS:
Create attraction, starting quickly with KINO, eye-contact and all. I am not so interested since she's not really my type, but I wanted her to see me in a different way.

WHAT HAPPENED:
I was walking to the fast food when I heard a car honking me. That was her. I thought she would come by bus or at least would have her car parked but that was not the case. So here I am getting in her car and kissing her hello... I was not expecting that... It was really hard to start KINOing when I kissed her... She drove me to the mall and parked her car there. Then we went to the café. She sat in front of me, so once again, I understood that KINOing her would complicated. Whatever, I tried to get my feet/legs closer to her's but unfortunaty no contact with the hands. We spoke a lot and I maintained eye-contact by staring at her right eye. I noticed she looked at my lips several times but that was the only real IOI I have seen. Then we left the café and went to several stores (cothes and animal). She drove me back to my house and I kiss her goodbye with my hand on his left shoulder. That's the maximum I could have done in a car.

MY MISTAKES:
- I have been surprised by having to kiss her hello in the car.
- I should not have sat next to her and not in front of her.
- I should not have gone in stores with her after the drink, I should have left.


Being social, seeing friends from work.
I'm still a student but last year I worked for a major US company in France and I wanted to see those friends before leaving to Brazil. So we agreed on meeting in a café in Paris near Opéra.
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MY GOALS:
Enjoying a good time with friends and introduction Rusty (my wing from Day 12) to other friends.

WHO WAS THERE?
Rusty, me and 4 girls (HB 7,5/6,5/6,5/5). Three of them were from my Business School, the other one a good friend we used to work with.

WHAT HAPPENED:
I started KINOing every one since the beginning: I kiss every girl with a KINO (I put my arm around her for the ones I was comfortable with, I put my hand on the shoulder for the other one). We started to walk to find a bar and ended in a small brasserie near the new Parisian Apple Store. We spoke a lot and Rusty quickly felt comfortable (I was afraid since he only knew me). We had a good time and nothing special happened when it comes to PUA. The only thing was that I DHV by bringing a friend of mine. We left the café after a hour I would say.

Alphas at Mc Donald's.
Since we were hungry, I ended at a Mc Donald's with Rusty and spoke a lot about what have changed since we were in the Game: we spoke about being damn AFCs and how it feels good to be men now... That truely gave me motivation. We were speaking out loud about the Game, there were a lot of women around but we just did not give a f**k. We also spoke about our poor results on Day 12 and how we could say anything to a girl, if we have the confidence, we have 90% of the attraction. We got out and went to the nearest metro station.

Being spontaneous (finally).
As we entered in the station, I noticed two girls with luggages. One of her maintained eye contact with Rusty. Without waiting, I asked one of them if they were coming from the US since there was a US airways sticker on the piece of luggage.
Me: Are you just coming from the US?
HB6: what? (surprised)
Me: Are you just coming from the US? (pointing to the US airways sticker)
HB6: oh no, that's from a long time ago...
Me: where are you coming from though (she were clearly coming from the airport)
HB6: azdazdjjjlzdj (did not understand)
Me: Sorry?
HB: dazihdahzdazdzaohfh
Me: Oh ok..
HB:...
Me:...
HB: Well have a good night then. (ejecting)

I know I ejected early once again, but that was the very first time I was really spontaneous. Too bad I did not understand her because of the noise around... I would have several idea to keep the conversation going on:
- HB6: oh no, that's from a long time ago...
=> Oh, you're so old? (C&F + Neg)... where have you been... what's you name...
- HB6: oh no, that's from a long time ago...
=> Really, we used to work in Florida (DHV)... where have you been... what's your name by the way...

This cold approach was important to me since I applied something that Hobbit recommended me: the bolognese opener bolognese-opener-vt58443.html I have to open this way, it much better than asking for direction.

What I've learned.
- I need to be ready for a wide range of situation when meeting someone (kiss in the car, not hearing what HB says ...)
- I need to be more spontaneous: it pays!

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All I want to say right now is you are the f**king man. You have opened more girls in the past 2weeks than I did the whole of last year lol. You have inspired me to start going into the field and not just read PUA stuff. I'm starting my own report just now so you can keep track of my progress too. Goodluck soon you will be a mPUA lets just not give up.

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@sliqaxe

Thanks for the support... but sincerely I have the impression I have accomplished nothing yet. I'm really happy you decided to start such a journey too. I'll follow it and no, we won't give up.

Wish you the best man. We can do this.

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DAY 14: applying KINO to a HB 7,5
Seeing an old AFC love.

Yesterday, I saw a good HB8 friend of mine but I did not really manage to do what I wanted... Some elements surprised me and I failed applying KINO escalation. My objective was not to pick her up, but just to practice.

Reconnecting with HB7,5.
I was in love with her when I was 16. I told her... she said... NO... But we've stayed really good friend since then. Actually things have changed. I used to be the shy guy of the class but now I have make it to the top... I used to think she was out of my league but in the end I am the one who is out of her league... Yet, she has a boyfriend right now... We agreed on meeting at the same little mall (Day 13) next to where I live. We decided to eat Japanese.

MY GOALS:
Create attraction... I want her to want me as hell. She's not a slut, on the contrary, she's a quiet girl. I think she has slept with only two guys in her life.

WHAT HAPPENED:
I was way more prepared... she came by car and stopped in front of my house. This time I was prepared. I got into her car and managed to KINO her while kissing hello. She drove to the mall and once again, I succeeded in guiding her several times by putting my hand in the bottom of her back. In the restaurant, I hesitated too much to sit next to her... so I finally sat in front of her. We spoke a lot and I focuses on maintaining a strong eye contact, I noticed she touched her hair and looked at my lips (too). I've done some KINO under the table with my feet and took several times her hands in mine (checking her rings, bracelets...). We spoke a lot about relationships and I tried to destroy her boyfriend... He's clearly an AFC: expensive gift and all... they've been together for only two months and she actually was scared by how fast he's going. I scared her even more since he is 27 and might want to settle. Here the special touch of the conversation:
- ME: It's been a long road since we were in highschool...
- HB7,5: Sure...
- ME: I was in love with you at that time...
She laughed and was embarassed about how serious I was looking at her (strong eye contact). I enjoyed it, I enjoyed embarassing her. That was the first time ever that I brought that into a conversation since I was 16. That felt good. A little after we left, she drove me back and I kissed her goodbye with strong KINO (hand on shoulder, intense kisses in cheeks).

LIST OF IOIs:
- she let me touch her (hands, back, ...)
- she touched her hair while talking
- she looked at my lips
- she complimented me on my leather jacket
- she told me several times that we should eat together again at her place.

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MY MISTAKES:
- I should have sat next to her?
- I should have dig deeper to get out of the friend zone?

What I've learned.
- The experience I got from yesterday was extremely useful today (same situations).

Questions to move on.
- Should I try to do her? If we end up at her place to have a lunch together, should I try sex escalation? (she has a bf, she is a quiet girl, I'm in the friend zone...) Do I actually want that?
- What could I have done to be sure to be out of the friend zone.

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Me: Are you just coming from the US?
HB6: what? (surprised)
Me: Are you just coming from the US? (pointing to the US airways sticker)
HB6: oh no, that's from a long time ago...
Me: where are you coming from though (she were clearly coming from the airport)
HB6: azdazdjjjlzdj (did not understand)
Me: Sorry?
HB: dazihdahzdazdzaohfh
Me: Oh ok..
HB:...
Me:...
HB: Well have a good night then. (ejecting)
Me: where are you coming from though (she were clearly coming from the airport)
HB6: azdazdjjjlzdj (did not understand)
Me: Sorry?
HB: dazihdahzdazdzaohfh
Me: What Is that a real place? Or is that some magical land where there are unicorns and rainbows and what not?

Since you didn't understand make fun of her, either where she's coming from or her pronunciation.

Anyways keep up the good work this year might be the year for you man


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Quote:
Quote:
Me: Are you just coming from the US?
HB6: what? (surprised)
Me: Are you just coming from the US? (pointing to the US airways sticker)
HB6: oh no, that's from a long time ago...
Me: where are you coming from though (she were clearly coming from the airport)
HB6: azdazdjjjlzdj (did not understand)
Me: Sorry?
HB: dazihdahzdazdzaohfh
Me: Oh ok..
HB:...
Me:...
HB: Well have a good night then. (ejecting)
Me: where are you coming from though (she were clearly coming from the airport)
HB6: azdazdjjjlzdj (did not understand)
Me: Sorry?
HB: dazihdahzdazdzaohfh
Me: What Is that a real place? Or is that some magical land where there are unicorns and rainbows and what not?

Since you didn't understand make fun of her, either where she's coming from or her pronunciation.

Anyways keep up the good work this year might be the year for you man

Thanks for the support man... I'll keep up... Nice line by the way... I still need those little reflexes to get comfortable in these situations... but I definitely want to approach like that from now on: being spontaneous and keeping the conversation flowing... no directions anymore!

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- ME: It's been a long road since we were in highschool...
- HB7,5: Sure...
- ME: I was in love with you at that time...
I would have been against you telling here that you loved her. Maybe you should've said afterwards "But not anymore, you lost your chance you might have to work really hard to earn it back...if it's possible"

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- ME: It's been a long road since we were in highschool...
- HB7,5: Sure...
- ME: I was in love with you at that time...
I would have been against you telling here that you loved her. Maybe you should've said afterwards "But not anymore, you lost your chance you might have to work really hard to earn it back...if it's possible"
Yeah sure... I did not really though about it, I just wanted to realize I have the balls to say it... but you're right I should have played her with this kind of line. Guess it's too late... That's the kind of reflexes I need to have!

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- ME: It's been a long road since we were in highschool...
- HB7,5: Sure...
- ME: I was in love with you at that time...
I would have been against you telling here that you loved her. Maybe you should've said afterwards "But not anymore, you lost your chance you might have to work really hard to earn it back...if it's possible"
Yeah sure... I did not really though about it, I just wanted to realize I have the balls to say it... but you're right I should have played her with this kind of line. Guess it's too late... That's the kind of reflexes I need to have!
haha It'll come along the way man you're progressing really good, it's ok that blow out these girls because once you have the right qualities and characteristics the right girl will come along and make you happy, just keep working on it man don't stop you're getting close man.[/b]

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DAY 15: being the socia guy.
Getting my visa for Brazil and hanging out.

Hey guys. Here's a quick post to tell you what happened today. I have not truely been sarging but tried to be as social and dominant as possible. From now on, I won't write about all my social interactions since I'm getting a lot of them (I want to improve my conversation skills)... I'll only write about my interactions with HB.

Getting my visa.
Early February I'm leaving Paris to go to São Paulo. I went to the Brazilian consulate in Paris to give all the papers I needed to provide. I felt good. I took the bus, said a manly hello to the bus driver, I was the man in that damn bus, it felt good. Then I took the train to Paris. I got into the consulate and while I gave all the papers, I spoke Portuguese, maintained eye contact with the employee and was social.

Hanging out in Paris.
The consulate was next to the Champs Elysées so I went there just to have a walk and maybe try some approaches. Truth is women in Paris seem to be on a damn pedestal higher than the Eifel Tower... I have to confess... I am not ready to sarge in Paris... this city seems to have a crazy effect on girls... HB5 behave like HB7, HB7 behave like HB9... I stopped to grab something to eat. I had a great interaction with the cashier. Then I got into several store in the avenue and saw Gaël Monfils (French tennis player) hanging out with a HB9... Since I was leaving the store and he was entering it, it would have been weird to go back and speak to him... Plus I did not want to be the annoying guy. I've never seen so much famous people in my life... The Game is full of surprise.

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Being social in malls.
Since I had a lot of spare time, I went to the mall and asked several questions to the employees working in the store... A few weeks ago, I would not have enjoyed it... but now I can't walk in a place without at least trying to be social. Then I came back home and went out again to go to another mall where I approached two girls for directions, I wanted to do more but they were not my type... That's not an excuse... but it's still hard for me to game girl I don't like. I know I should practice though... Yet I'm really happy since I had no AA at all and was really confident... I just went for it. Every time I got into a store, I've been social and friendly with the employee and it pays:

What I've learned:
- Everyday social interactions are good: it makes me feel confident, happy and people are nicer with me... I can get more from them.
- I'm taking my Game to a new level... I can feel I'm achieving something... I'm being social, I'm being a man, I'm more relaxed...

I hope results will come soon but I really think I'm in the right tracks. Tomorrow, not only will I practice day game, but I will also begin night game since I'm invited to a party. I'll keep you updated.

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DAY 16: first night game session.
Number closing the most incredible girl of the party.

Wow... Yesterday I went to a birthday party. That's simple I knew nobody except Rusty, the friend who invited me. That was my first try in night game (if we can call that night game).

Still on day game.
Obviously, the party was at night, but I went out during the day to practice a little. I had several great interactions with store's employees and people in general. Somehow, I ended in a student campus and approached two sets to ask directions: a 4-set and a 2-set. That was the first time I opened a 4-set but it went really well. For the two approaches, I was not shy at all, I was confident and relaxed but only asked for direction. Good news is: I can easily open for direction... Bad news is: I still don't know how to go further. Whatever, I'll work on Day Game later (and probably use routines or go direct).

Enjoying night game.
8pm: time to meet Rusty and to go to the bar where the party is.

ABOUT THE PARTY.
It was a birthday party of a friend of Rusty's. Since I told him I wanted to practice night game, he got me invited (thanks buddy). It was an all-you-can eat buffet with music so that people can dance. When I got there, I didn't know anybody but I was in a really good state of mind. :twisted:

INTRODUCING ME.
Rusty introduced me to the girl celebrating her birthday. I KINOed her while kissing her hello. I did the same to the other guys Rusty introduced me to. Actually, he only knew a small part of the people invited to the party. Since I decided to be THE DAMN GUY of the night, I quickly started to spontaneaously introduce myself to everyone, KINOing the girls, being cool with the guys. The recipe was simple: KINO, small interactions with everyone & confidence.

BEING COOL.
There were a lot of guys so I decided to be cool with them. I spoke with a lot of them. I knew it was important to know as many people as I could before even thinking about gaming a girl. I wanted to be the social guy who would never be by himself during the party. Guys were cool and friendly, they allowed me to DHV a lot.

LOW LEVEL.
I have to admit it, the level was very low... Yet, one of the girls was a sexy HB8 (= HB A) and another came later... a wonderful HB9 (= HB M).

MEETING HB8 A.
She was really sexy but since it was her birthday too, I did not manage to really speak with her. I only introduced myself by kissing her hello while applying KINO (= KISSNO) and only had quick interactions with her. She was the only good target though, until HB 9 M came.

MEETING HB9 M.
She was incredibly beautiful... and alone. I did a small KISSNO since I tought she came with a guy at the beginning... but that was not the case. I quickly spoke with her at the beginning but that was not enough for me.
1st try: She spent a lot of time sit at a table with other girls around her. Since I spoke with the Russian girl who was at her right, I started a conversation with her about Russia and make her leave her sit. The idea was to isolate HB M and destroy the cockblockers. At the same time, I wanted her to see that she was the only one to not have fun with me. The conversation with the Russian girl was flaking so I ejected. I failed on approaching her.
2nd try: About 15 min later, I went back to Rusty. He was speaking to another girl and I can't remember how but we started to speak about a girl that was sit at HB M's left. Since I was not introduced to her, I asked him to do so. I spoke with her and ignored deliberately my target. It was hard to introduce myself to her after that so I ejected... but I think ignoring her was a good thing...
3nd try: The former girl left her sit, another girl was now at HB M's left. I also knew her since one of the guy I spoke with introduced me to her. I noticed she left her sit so I stole it from her. I was in the right spot to finally open HB M. Wow?

THE LAST COCK BLOCKER.
As I sat down and looked at her, the birthday girl came to speak to her... Sh*t! Well actually that was okay, I was cool and listened to them speaking. She left and I started to talk.

WOW.
She was so beautiful... It was not hard at all to maintain eye contact. I engaged conversation with her and we spoke a lot about her future trip to South America and the fact I was going to Brazil. The music was loud, so I took advantage and get closer to her; I KINOed her a lot: shoulder, legs... I listened to her but lost focus some time: I broke eye contact and looked away... I wanted her to know that she had to deserve my attention. Then I ejected. I said that I wanted to go back to Rusty and that we would spoke later. I left her and she was by hersefl, at that table... :twisted:
  • Good points:
    - Leaving her.
    - Losing focus to make her understand she has to deserve my attention.
    - Approaching her finally!

    Points to improve:
    - My body language was saying that I was fully available to her... I should not have faced her.
    - I did not set a right frame of sedution... The conversation was friendly and not about seduction.
HB M COMING TO ME
I went back to Rusty... About 20 min later, she got up. I noticed it and told her that she should meet Rusty... She replied she already has been introduced to him. Sh*t... that's not good on the compliance ladder. Whatever. A few minutes later, she came back and started to speak with the two of us. Once again my attention was not entirely focused on her.

RE-FRAMING HB M.
I realized something: I had not set up a seduction/sexual frame but a friendly one. That was bad I guessed so I decided to do something about it... I wanted to know if she was reluctant to seduction frame. So I told her I like her earrings. She did not seem nervous at all... she touched her ears to remind herself which one she was wearing and told me thanks. I negged her on how strange it was that she had to touch her ears to remember them. (Don't blame me guys, I'm still an amateur).

HB M LEAVING: TIME TO NUMBER CLOSE.
30 minutes later, she was about to leave. I noticed it. She was looking for her jacket. "Oh, you're leaving?" "yes" "Oh ok" then I came back to Rusty and pretend to don't give a f**k. The magical part was that she came to me to tell kiss me good by. My KISSNO was scandalous. That was not a usual kiss to say good bye, but two kisses on her cheecks. Right after I told her we be contacts on Facebook so we could see our photos of South America... I asked her her name and so but make her undersand that would be hard to find each other. "Oh wait, I have an idea, give me you phone number, I'll send you the link to my profile". She agreed... BINGO :twisted:
  • Good points:
    - Getting her to come to see good-bye.
    - Getting the number.
    - KISSNO!

    Points to improve:
    - Poor excuse to get her number... Truth is 1) she is not from Paris and (as far as I understood it) was about to leave to her hometown and 2) she'll leave France in three weeks to South America.
WHAT TO DO NOW?
Knowing that I actually have no chance to see her again since she might not even be in Paris anymore... what can I text her aside of the url of my profile? When should I text her?

SIDE NOTE: HOW I BECAME THE PUNISHER
After the number close, some people started to act weirdly... HB A seemed suspicious and her cousin (a HB6) tried to play me... I told her my name and she asked me to guess her name. That pissed me off but I tried some name and was wrong... "Do I look like my name is ***" That's a shit test I guess... Well I was not in the mood to play so I started to spoke to a guy who were next to us... "Are you with her?" "No." "Oh Okay, what's your name by the way"... She ended by herself and ejected. :twisted: I've been the punisher and it felt good.

What I've learned.
- Being the social guy is gold.
- Social Game is way easier than Day Game.
- I love KINO.
- Attraction is about giving attention and be indifferent the next second.

Questions to move on.
- What to do with her? What should I text her? When should I do it?
- How to set a seduction frame? (and not to fall in a friendly zone)? How to create a tension?

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Heyyy Congrats on the phone close man!! Who said this thing wasn't easy? I suggest contact her on FB, be friends there, save her number, and leave her on your "Back-Up Plan" pile. I think you should keep this on your self-esteem profile and not to chase her because if its ment to be then its ment to be. Learn from your lesson, know the fact that you can do this and move on. Next time you come back to Paris you should give her a call and from time to time leave her a comment or two in FB so that she doesn't forget you

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Yooo daniel~~ I've been viewing your journal since your Day 0! Feel excited when seeing u grow every day! Keep it up! I and so many others will be happy for you as well!

I've been reading the Pick-up materials for 3 years intermittently, and I think it's time for me to stop since the more I read the more I got confused. It's about time to take action,eh? It just, my major problem is I am so terrified and uncomfortable of social rejection. Maybe I am too nice a guy that I always want to please others and lose my own personality... Sad...

Also, I have excuse for not picking up since I am still a univerdity student and shoud focus on study solely... I know it is lame but... Forget it.

Anyway!!! Keep going Daniel!! Proud of your progress! Feel like I am progressing as well reading your journel!


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Heyyy Congrats on the phone close man!! Who said this thing wasn't easy? I suggest contact her on FB, be friends there, save her number, and leave her on your "Back-Up Plan" pile. I think you should keep this on your self-esteem profile and not to chase her because if its ment to be then its ment to be. Learn from your lesson, know the fact that you can do this and move on. Next time you come back to Paris you should give her a call and from time to time leave her a comment or two in FB so that she doesn't forget you
Thanks HappySlip! But it's too late, I've already texted her. I'll do a post about it. Hope the comunity will help me... I need it! :)

Actually that's my question... should I game her (even if the conditions are not favourable) or keep her as a friend? It's not too late for the latter option but I need advice

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