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Here's a collection of FR that I had about four hours ago at a local mall. It's around 2 AM but I have to write this up or else I'll forget what happened. It was supposed to be an outing that comprised of trying out pick-up lines that I knew was going to fail, HARD. But it turns out to be a collection of indirect game with workers at a local mall. For now, I'll post the SUCCESSFUL # closes.

FR: HB 8 Piercings

The mall was SLOWWWWW. It was ten at night and the mall was about to close soon. I spot a worker at a kiosk but AA kicked in so bad. So, I go into a store and try to talk to a worker but even then, AA kicked in! I knew I had to react quick so I just opened a chick that worked there and asked about the sale they had.
Here's how it went...

I had to get into a talkative state so I asked about the clearance. I tell her to help me find a gift for a female friend who's about her height. (This is not true though.) She's more than willing to help and we chat it up about what her type of clothing is, her size, etc. She takes her break, and another chick, HB 8 PacSun comes in. She's got short blonde hair, tattoos on her chest, bubbly personality, real cool. I see she's got on those embedded piercings on either side of her chest and tell her a story of how this guy in my Human Sexuality class came to guest speak and told us how dangerous those piercings where. She got really scared. She points to her palms where she used to have it. I take her hand and apply KINO. Throughout this time, I DHV. I used negs and told her that her ass is bigger than the other worker who helped me as we were comparing jeans size for my "female friend". She laughs. She laughed at almost everything and IOI was everywhere. I flip my phone and give her a FTC. I tell her...
"Listen, I gotta go soon. You got a great energy and that's cool. We should hang out, let me get your number." She throws a shit test and says
HB Piercings: "I have a boyfriend."
Me: "Do you want a manfriend?" in a c&f way
She laughs hysterically. IOI.
I then proceed into saying "It's not like I'm going to call you and be like hey come over let's fuck" She laughs hysterically. But this time, she sweeps her bangs to the side. IOI. "We're just going to hang out."
She punches in her # on my phone and gives it to me and says, "Here, enter it in, I don't want to mess it up."



FR HB 7 Perfume
I go to Victoria's Secret with the original intent of asking this HB 9 who works there what type of gift to give my Aunt who was there at the store but I open this HB 7 instead since HB 9 was in the register busy with customers. HB 7 has black wavy hair, short, and cute. I open with MM opener and ask her about which perfume on my wrists was better. She picks the left one and we get in a playful disagreement about which was better. I playfully ask if she even knew what they were and neg her on how she doesn't even know. She tells me that different people give off different smell and I tell her the story of how in my Human Sexuality class, this guest speaker threw a Passion Party (which is basically a person advertising sex toys) and told us the same exact thing. So I spray on her wrists and lo and behold, the scents came off more seductive on her! I joke and tell her I just got back from working out and my sweat is probably making it smell. I get a laugh. I tell her to show me around other options. She gives me this really seductive smelling perfume and I tell her how if my sister wears this, she'll get looks from guys and I'll stare them down and blame her for advising this perfume. She laughs. I run the ESP test. I try to guess her number but failed cause she wasn't even ready. I comment on her eye position and how it meant that she was visualizing her number. I perform a cold reading and tell her how she's a visual person. She agrees. She's now got more energy than when I opened her. While looking at the perfumes, I tell her she's got a really interesting personality and tell her I don't quite know what it is but she's got a good energy. I give her my phone, and she puts in her number.



FR HB 7
This girl was in my class over the semester but I never talked to her. She was working at a kiosk and I told her you look bored. I proceed into saying how I didn't know she worked here and told her about my acne problem. This kiosk was selling cosmetics so I ask what she got that would help. She shows me this product, runs a test on my hand. For a Russian, I tell her she's got no accent and I mock how some other Russian chick would normally sound. She laughs. She laughs at most of the things I say. She tells me she works so much. Neg her on how she always leave class early and how she has a low grade because of it. I can't remember for shit what else I say but I ran a lot of negs and stories. It's so Damn late, I can't remember. It's almost 3 AM. Anyways we go into discussing about school stuff and I neg her about her not knowing what to do in life. She keeps mentioning you're funny. She touches her hair. I get a lot of IOI's so I close. She's upbeat with it when I ask we should hang out sometime. I tell her that I like how she's a hard worker and that's really good. I tell her it'll take her far in life. I proceeded with the # close and she asks for my name.


There's more into the stories but it's getting late and I have to wake up early. I'll go into more details about them if it be needed or if you guys have questions. I'll post later on about the other unsuccessful closes. I'm going out later this afternoon so I hope to post some more.

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Salut!

I can sense a nice piece of game in here. Since July I was concentrating on SNLs so night/club game is what I prefer but I can see from you and some more people that I underestimated day game. You gave me some points to think about...
Good luck with these numbers, keep posting!

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HER I have a boyfriend
U Do you want a manfriend?


OMG,. haha that made me laugh so hard...

Great stuff, can;t wait for the other half bro.


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I went out again. Different mall this time.
Here's the low down on what happened...

-AA was higher this time so I had to get into a talkative mood/state so I chatted up people at local stores. This bit here works great at trying to overcome AA for your first approach IMO.
-The mall was crowded so I gamed plenty of targets that weren't specifically workers like last night.
-# closed 4 people compared to only 3 the previous night. 2 of which have BF. Passed it by using "Do you want a manfriend?" line. It works MOST of the time if pulled off properly.
-I find that indirect is the way to go at the mall. Direct game, I'm not quite there but I approached this HB 9 with this direct opener. "Hey, let me ask you something. Are you as beautiful on the inside as you are on the outside?" Her reply, "No." LOL! With HB 9 and 10s, as of now, I'll go indirect until I develop enough game. If I could approach her differently, I would have gone indirect for sure.
-Most approaches weren't canned. Though I used the same opener which is to basically ask them what I should get my sister as a gift. I transition into a combination of negs, DHV, and "bounce" in no particular order.
-When I apply kino early, my approach def comes off as genuine as they open up more than when I don't.
-Most approaches are single set. A couple were two-sets. I need to build enough game and perhaps have canned routines to run two or more sets as they get harder to control and require intricate social dynamics.
-A lot of crash and burn but I learned a shitload!


In depth report of the # closes...


DAY 2 MALL GAME
HB 7 BF destroyer #1
I approached from her side as she's walking and while looking straight ahead I ask for her female opinion on what I should get my sister as a gift. I told her I want something thoughtful. I mention jeans and I ask her to help me find one as we bounce to a store. We get greeted and I tell the worker "Ya I'm just looking for something for my sister." while pointing at her. She laughs and we go find my sister jeans. I threw in negs and I DHVd like crazy. I told her about the different eye-positions and did the ESP test. Those are the only ones I know! LOL. So I used those on most of my PU. I tell her I really dig her kindness and how I can tell she's got a good personality. I tell her we should hang out and she gives me "my boyfriend's not gonna like that" I look at her straight on and say "Do you want a MANFRIEND?" with a grin. She giggles. I tell her we're only gonna hang out. I type her # and she says "Do you want my name?" I tell her "Uh ya, the # goes in first and then the name." Im halfway punching her # until this fat worker butts in and cockblocks mentioning something about how the place is good for meeting people. I blew her comment off and proceeded with saying " Yea, I needed to look for something for my sister and she helped me. She's cool. We're related." After saying this, I put my arm around her like she's my little sister. I tell the worker we're actually related. I tell her can't you tell by looking at us. The worker said we had the same complexion. Like really now? No duh. Anyways, HB 7 played along. The worker who tried to cocblock started to help me after trying to diss on me. I knew if I didn't react quick, HB MIGHT leave so I just gave her the phone and she punched it in. I told her I'll meet her with Mom outside. Of course as an inside joke. The worker had no clue what was going on and I can tell that after I left, she started talking, questioning HB 7.


HB 7 JEANS...
I approached this girl with the same opener as the first. I made sure she was warmed up before I bounce her into a store. I kino, neg, and DHV but all at same time insuring her comfort talking to me. I tell her to go into the store with me and she gladly accepts so we go and she's all throwing me different ideas of jeans I should get her. What I do is disagree with their original ideas and sort of playfully challenge their opinions and that's what I did with this HB. I tell her that she's got a little more junk in the trunk than my sis and she laughs. She laughs at most stuff I say. It's all playful because if it's not, the PU will not go anywhere. This is important because it's sort of hard to transition into something when you go indirect. I swear, the whole time we were talking, it seemed like we knew each other a long time so when I asked for her #, she was all enthusiastic. I basically told her how me and some friends were going ice skating soon and she should come. I # closed and I told her thank you and she says good luck finding something for your sister.


HB 8.5 BF Destroyer #2
This girl walks by me as I sat on the middle of the mall and I couldn't help but stare at her figure first then realize I need to open! I follow her, and approached from her left. There's about 2 body length in space. I opened with same opener. It had been a success so why change. Now this chick was totally out of it from the get go. I mean she was a combination of tired, bored, didn't know what was going on look. But I persisted. I told her whether to get her perfume or jeans. Disagreed with her opinion playfully. She kept body rocking like a PUA! I kept throwing questions and questioned her on her choices. I knew I had to DHV so I ran one routine I knew. The meaning of eye-positions! Even this though didnt seem to catch her attention. I didn't face her until she was invested in the convo. This was when I told her the BF destroyer line I always use. I ask her "You know, you got something about you. I know you're tired but I think you got something I like and I can't quite point it out." or something similar to that. "We should hang out sometime." She pulls out the "I have a bf." and I pull off the "Do you want a manfriend?" There was a pause of about three seconds that consisted of us looking at each other. I quickly proceeded with asking her about why she looks so tired and she tells me she worked at three in the morning at a coffee shop. I neg her and tell her maybe she should have grabbed a coffee on the way out. She laughs. We make more small talk and I persist. This time, she's more invested and into the PU. I ask again for the # and I punch it in. I walk about five paces and forgot her name! So I turn and recover and yell, "How do you spell your name?!!" So she yelled it back! LOL.


HB 8 BUDWEISER
I saw this chick coming up the escalator but I'm down, and walking the opposite direction. I had to open her though. I walk back and ran up to the escalator, just behind her. I compliment her BUDWEISER sweater jokingly by telling her a simple line. "Hey, cool sweater!" she turns, giggles, says thank you. We both go up and I go alongside and use the same opener as the previous ones. I do the exact same thing. I disagree with her opinions. Mess around with her and question her opinions about jeans. Basically, I qualify them. So I tell her that my sister is about her size. I look down frown my eyebrow and tell her that she's got a little more ass. I tell her I'm totally not checking you out while I do a light kino on her left elbow with my hand. She laughs hysterically. I stop her as we walk and continue the convo. I ask what store exactly she's going to and I tell her that that store is like a zoo and how everything is on the ground. I go over the hardships of buying for a chick and compare it to buying something for a guy which is like a simple shirt or money. We get into a mini-argument. I asked her about her sweater and where she got it and she says from a thrift store. Throughout the whole time, since this was later on into my sarge, I learned that I needed to kino early and plenty so I did just that. Our conversation was fun and I came off genuine. I told her she's really cool and I dig her fun personality and that we should hang out. She says "But I don't live here." I told her that's fine and asked her where she lives. I tell her that I knew people where she lived and got a number close.


Tomorrow, or the day after, I want to go for 5 # closes. Remember, this is my first legit outing/attempt at PU.

It's late. Again. 3am. Leave feedback as always.


I have a question. How should I transition after my opener? Go into a routine? I get stuck sometimes and stick with the opener and not really take it anywhere...

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-I find that indirect is the way to go at the mall. Direct game, I'm not quite there but I approached this HB 9 with this direct opener. "Hey, let me ask you something. Are you as beautiful on the inside as you are on the outside?"
"You are beautiful" is the worst way to approach a beautiful girl. All AFCs do it that way. You will sometimes get away with it but the better way to go direct is to come in with a genuine compliment. It's not hard. You see her as beautiful, just take 4 seconds more to ask yourself "What makes her beautiful and go with it.

I read a post a few minutes ago somewhere on these forums. The guy opened a girl (in a 2 set mind you) with " Wow your hair looks wonderfull curled like that". That's just an exemple but it worked becuase it was genuine. You'll get a much better response with that then the "You're cute" generic approach.

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I somewhat knew it was going to fail because she looked like a chick that got hit on a lot. I mean she was wearing like a black business suit top, skirt (during the winter), and black fishnet lookin leggings, and heels! I took the risk. Next time, I'll keep in mind what you said. It was a line I wanted to get out my chest so I did it more because of that. Lol. I also knew that this line would be better said once I get rapport rather than an actual opener. After negs and DHV it would probably have worked well as a qualifier.

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I somewhat knew it was going to fail because she looked like a chick that got hit on a lot. I mean she was wearing like a black business suit top, skirt (during the winter), and black fishnet lookin leggings, and heels! I took the risk. Next time, I'll keep in mind what you said. It was a line I wanted to get out my chest so I did it more because of that. Lol. I also knew that this line would be better said once I get rapport rather than an actual opener. After negs and DHV it would probably have worked well as a qualifier.
Don't sweat it too much. You did aproach, and that shows good things about you. Direct game becomes 'easier' then indirect game when all your inner game stuff is ironed out. If you are nervous and hesitant it will not work that well. Whereas indirect will get you better results if you still have AA and don't have your inner game under hand too much.

Anyhow, build up your cinfidence with encounters like this. This is a really good thing you are doing. Keep at it!

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DAY 3 FR

FR 1
So I went out again for the third straight night in a row. I had to get out in-field. I went out very late at night, around 9:30. The mall wasn't crowded and for some reason, AA hits harder this time than the previous nights, even though I closed. I had to get in-state so I do what I usually do and chat it up with people in various stores. After feeling a little more relaxed, I approach an attractive looking HB 8 who works at a store. I do the same "gift for my sister" opener as the previous nights. She reciprocates well and I tell her my sister's size is about similar to hers. I tell the HB that she's got a little more "oomph" in the back and I tell her "I'm totally not checking you out or anything." while applying KINO, said in a playful way. She laughs and she asks what my ethnicity is. I tell her to guess and she guesses right so I compliment her on her guessing skills. I knew this was a great way to transition to the ESP test and that's what I did while going to the eye-position DHV routine after noticing her eye shift to the side. We bounce to the other side of the store, looking for more clothing and she rallys my negs back and forth and throws them at me. We get in a few playful teasing. She even initiates kino, touching me on my arm. I ask her about her ethnicity and she says she's Russian. I tell that I had a Russian ex who had Nazi parents that hated me. I tell her that I don't like how her parents weren't open minded. She was wearing a shirt that says "OPEN MINDED" (no joke) and she points at it, implying to me if I read it. I tell her not only do I read minds but I read shirts as well! I get a laugh and I ask if her parents are the same and she says no. After disagreeing with a few of her ideas, she starts to question if I actually am going to get her anything. She felt annoyed but not in a get the hell outta here voice. Rather, it was more playful. But honestly, I felt at the time she was being impatient so I told her it's her job to help me. After a while, I tell her I'm good from here because I felt she was being annoyed.

Looking back to it, I failed her shit test. I could have # closed.
Ah well.




FR 2
I'm walking down the mall, and couldn't help but notice this HB 8.5 Blonde bent over, folding clothes. I stopped, retreated, and went to the store. I walk towards the closest table with clothing to get a better look at her face. It's cute, but has a touch of hotness. I knew I had to open. Without hesitating, I came over and told her I need her female opinion on something and that I needed something to go with these jeggings I bought. She opens up quite brightly and is more than willing to help, even walking me across the store. While walking, she asks to see the jeggings I bought and after looking at it, she folds it. I comment her on how funny it that she folded it for me and how she's "programmed" to do so lol. The whole convo was very casual and relaxed. I neg her but never really got to run any DHV routines. My DHV came more on my witty humor. Someone called me and I took out my old school RAzOr cellphone and she laughed. After hanging up, I asked her "Did you laugh at my razor?" She says no and we get into a convo on smart phones and how they're taking over the world. I drag a co-worker of hers along in the convo and ask them about their personal experience with their cell providers. She was doing such a good job, pointing out to me different clothing that would go well with the jeggings that I told her I should borrow her and take her to the Express store. She plays along and says "Yea I should go tell my manager that I'll be back while I help you out." in a joking way. She tells me if I need anything she'll be at the same spot I met her. IOI.

It was quiet and there was no one at the store, really, except me and the squad of co-workers around us... A number pull at the time would have been somewhat awkward for her. Before she said she had to go, I was thinking of the # close but with the given circumstances, I didn't want to take the risk. On the way home, I thought about how I could have played it differently. I could have asked her to show me something across the store where there was no one and told her something like, "Listen, I think you're really interesting. You have something good about you I can't quite put my finger on. We should hang out." Honestly, I think I would have closed the deal. But I didn't. Ah well.

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I hope to get out tomorrow and game some more so expect something.
Also, I plan on writing about the failed approaches when I have time.


I'm getting text replies from a couple of the number close from my Day 1 report. I don't have text game down. Any pointers?
Do you guys have any openers you'd like me to try? Honestly, I want to branch out from the same "gift for my sister" opener and try something different. It's somewhat getting boring.

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You are definitely right. My inner game is something I definitely need to work on the most. I feel with enough practice with indirect game, I could get my inner game down. The mall is perfect because it leaves so many situations where you could go indirect.

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+ I will send this to multiple girls (I rewrite the original - you can find it on 12th page on the site above):

"I was going to send you something sexy for Christmas but the postman told me to get out of the mailbox and took all the stamps off my ass."

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That's a great link! Thanks for that bro. I'll have to try out some of those lines and make my own variations.

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Hi Maserato,

Keep up man, you're really inspiring. I had some mall games to but I found it really hard, but I'm learning thanks to you. I'll try the workers next time.

Keep us informed!

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AFC Daniel,

I'm glad to hear you find it helpful. The point of this thread is to not only help me in my game, but to help other people as well so I'm glad it's serving its purpose.

With workers, it kills two birds with one stone. It helps you get in-state when you get AA and it's easier to PU. Workers are there to help you out. Use them to practice your game or if all goes well, pick them up!

When the mall is slow and it's not target-rich with HBs walking around, there is almost always workers that fit my standard or worthy of at least opening up.

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I love approaching girls in malls, so I find this really motivating, thanks your posts. :)


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haha great stories at the mall, it sucks because you have the obstacle of their jobs interferring with your game.

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