A little something that will help you to go from indirect to direct if you want to go probing that way.

Open normally, (your cookie opener will do) and after she answers you can go with something like: " Actually I know exactly where that store is. You look stunning in that dress and I wanted to know if you are fun as well." You can throw in a "Since you know where the cookie store is, that shows I'm not entirely wrong

That's just off the top of my head. You can change and improvise given the situation and tailor to your need. The indirect opener gives you a bit of time to feel her better and give you a bit more confidence before going direct.

One more thing, look back at your report. You didn't feel good enough about opening HB8+ but after talking to a few 40+ year olds you where talkative enough. If it helps you to boost your confidence do so, open a few random 40+ year olds before hitting the hot blondes.

:)

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Ha, nope, I mis-read! I was "who are you". Clearly delivery is key or else that's just weird though!

DAY 4: Approaching girls on a mall.
Cherry Coke and being a p*ssy.

Going forward.
In my last exercise, I approached 2 sets of 2 girls in 30 min. It was not hard for me to speak to them but I was clearly not good enough. Yet, I understood that I was capable of overcoming hesitation by simply asking direction and the start a conversation. Strengthened by these small results, I decided to go out today.

The stage.
A mall, a great mall actually. For those who know a little Paris, that's the mall near Disneyland. It's a great place to find beautiful women. Average: HB7 I would say.



Goals.
- Approach 10 women
- Close one of them

In field.
I took the train this afternoon. 25 min later I was at the mall. The level was high. That was a good thing, I was confident, well dressed, by myself. I had several opportunities:
- As I entered in the mall, I saw a girl waiting with her phone in hand. I asked myself if I had to go for it but hesitate too long. Anyway, she looked way too young (16/17yo).
- In a clothe store, a girl was looking for a pair of jeans. She seemed cute but hesitation killed the opportunity. I just did not know what to say to her. Actually, her friend was way more beautiful.
- At Sephora, I was smelling a perfume and saw two girls behind me. I wanted to tell them that I "would like to have a female opinion about it"... but I just did not have the balls to do it.
- ...

Time for a break.
I was such a p*ssy today. I was confident but hesitation killed all the opportunities. I decided to have a break. I bought a cherry coke can (I love that) and a wafle. 5 min later I was back. I went to a shoe store and interact with an employee to give me energy. When I left it, I saw a young HB6,5. I liked her style so I followed her to engage her but did nothing... Yet I was sure in my inner self that I would have succeeded to get his number. But nothing.

That was enough for today. I left the stage and got into the train. I was really angry about myself. F*ck me. On my way home, there's a mall too. So I stopped by and ask directions to 2 17yo girls. That's a damn shame.

The worst part is to come. I'm now feeling needy and thinking about my ex-gf. A f-close could definitely help to tackle this...

Final results.
- I approached 2 teenagers for direction. (Sh*t!)
- No close

What happened.
- The stage was too difficult for me: too much people, people rushing, I was not prepared to approach in this context...
- AA was high: I was in a p*ssy state of mind (finding reason not to go instead of finding reasons to approach)
- All the opportunities were killed by hesitation.

What I've learned.
- I have to prepare what to say: find a new routine and test it, again and again.
- I have to have the balls to go for it: don't let hesitation kill everything.
- I have to lower my expectation: I was very good today at finding excuses, she's not so cute, she's too young, F*CK that, I'm looking for experience.
- I have to take every opportunity: EVERY ONE OF THEM, RIGHT AT THE MOMENT. When I realize it's a window, go and learn something!
- I have to chose the right place, and the right time: the place was good but not the time, too much people.

Questions to move on.
- What do I want? What are my expectations? (knowing that will allow me to kill all the questions that trigger hesitation before approaching: is she my type of women?...)
- Do I have to lower my ambition about learning PU? Am I going too fast?

Next steps.
- Answer to the first question.
- Think about more routines.
- Go to the same mall tomorrow morning.
- Try at least one num close.
- BE A F**KING MAN.

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Have a back-up opener. One that you know goes down well. That way, when you spot HB at the last moment, you don't have to think before delivering it. Only use it when needed though or it goes stale.

I just wanted to say I appreciate your detailed reports, and want you to know the I am inspired by you.

Please keep it up, I feel us A.F.C's can relate to you.

Thanks TheJ! That's a great advice! I love the idea! Moving from indirect to direct sounds GREAT! I'll try this.
Exactly what I needed! BRILLIANT!

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@SethVegas

Thanks! You should do the same! It's a great way to learn and share!

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Salut!
Look at the results. You asked two teenagers for direction. This is definitely not too fast. And ambition is a good thing, but your goal is not learning PU, your goal is to become a Pick-Up-Artist. Or Alpha, whatever, but your goal is to achieve, not to try.

TheJ gave you a good advice, follow it if you fear being direct from the beginning.
About that "who are you" opener: it's some strange force within that gives you DHV on the spot (girl thinking "who is HE to ask me such a question?"). Imagine you enter a new club and here comes a guy asking you "who are you?" - you think he is an owner or that he is here so often he knows everyone. Plus qualifying, you just listen to her and look her in the eyes with a smile on your face. I like that in a club, this is my back-up opener.

One advice I can give you that worked for me: I had problems with opening 1st set. Once I talked to very first girl that night, I was opening sets one after another endlessly, but the first set was always the hardest one. But then I read DiCarlo's book and he says sth like "I CHASE the first set. I WANT to burn that one. My mindset is like "Ok, check it out how she will reject me". I laugh at girl who wants to reject me politely because I really want her to do so, I can warm-up and prepare to the next set". These are not exact words but you get the point.

Big source of Force, I sense.

Salut!

Surielx.

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DAY 5: Approaching and closing in a mall
My first number close

About yesterday.
Yesterday was a bad day for me as you've probably seen. I decided to come back today to the same mall, but earlier. I"ve put my favorite shirt, a nice pair of jeans and went out with my NY Jets cap.

Goals.
- Try at least one number close.

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Keeping the energy.
My first objective for today was to keep the energy going. I know that if I stay too much time without engaging, I lose confidence. So on my way to the station, I ask direction to a 40yo woman. The interaction was short but cool. I tried to smile and had a nice reaction from her. A few meters later, I did the same thing with another 40yo women. The energy was flowing.

In field.
I was in a good state of mind when I arrived at the mall.
- As I entered, I've seen a beautiful a 20yo HB7,5 in front of me. I tried to catch up with her but she noticed me and it became weird. Too bad.
- I've been on the stage for only 5 min when I saw a cute 17/18yo HB9 sitting on a bench. I went straight to her and ask for direction. My elocution was bad once again but she understood me and told me she did not know. She had a really low voice so I had to get closer. I ejected, she seemed to be waiting for someone...
- Later, I went to a sport store. One of the employee was a cute HB7, I asked her if they sell NFL caps. But I failed my storytelling DHV: I've said that I was coming back from the US and wanted to start a collection but it came out of the blue. Oh, and she did not even know what NFL was. Weird again.
- Finally, I decided to leave the stage for another mall. But as I was buying a ticket I noticed a young HB7,5 waiting. I went straight to her and tried a indirect to direct routine.



My first number-close.
It was bad, really weak game, but here it is:
- Hi, do you know how much time does the train take to arrive in Paris? (eye contact, smiling...)
- About 40 min... (she looked surprised and avoid eye-contact, low voice, shy?)
- Oh okay... Well in fact I know it. I just thought you were cute... (that's f**king ridiculous, I'm ashamed as I'm writing this: no DHV, no C&F, nothing... just needyness)
- ... thanks (she was looking down... I've seen no IOI...)
- and wanted to ask you if I can get you number to go get a drink. (I had my phone in my hand)
- if you want.
- what's your name? (looking to my phone)
- *told me her name*
- *giving me her number*
- I'm Daniel by the way.
- *no answer*
- I've gotta go to catch my train, I'll see you later (eye contact, smile)
- *as far as I can remember, no answer*
I left without turning back.

I was happy for having my first number close but I really have to work on that sh*t. I was bad. No DHV, no C&F... I almost have the feeling that she gave me her number to get rid of me... Dunno. I have to send her a text msg to figure it out. In the end, I feel kind of stupid about this number close. I'm a damn 23yo guy studying in one of the best B-schools in this country, but when it comes to applying the game to a 18yo shy girl, I just get a "if you want" as an answer. I should be the best thing that had ever happen to her damn it. I have to have more confidence and DHV!

Changing and leaving stage.
Then I went to a smaller mall... But there were no opportunities there. I bought myself a pair of Adidas. I finally went home and here I am.

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What I've learned.
- Closing is not so hard: I succeeded with a poor game.
- Conversation skills are necessary to have a smooth game.
- What I say does not really matters, what matters is the way you say it: relaxed, confident, eye contact...
- Windows of opportunity are short! I had some opportunities but they changed direction at the last moment, before I approached them.
- I have to learn how to be in the moment: while engaging I panicked and was thinking only about one thing: leaving stage. I did not check the IOI for example.
- Let her speak!

Next goals.
- Going beyond the digit with the HB7,5 (even if I feel stupid about my poor game?)
- Approaching and closing again: focus on conversation DHV, C&F.

Questions to move on.
- How can I dramatically improve my conversation skills? (experience needed, but do you have some extra tips?)

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DAY 6: Having a break.
Reflection on my learning process

How I feel.
I don't really know how I feel about all that. What I know, is that it is exhausting. Sarging makes me physically and psychologically exhausted. Hanging out y myself in a mall focusing on all the possible targets and constantly push my limits to be social and get experience is HARD. Yet, what's even harder is to come home and to think about what you achieved and realize you've done NOTHING.

My first number-close should have been a great step, but I felt quite ridiculous. I came, I opened, I closed... no conversation at all... That's bad. I definitely have to work on that.

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Not in the moment.
It is still hard for me to come to a girl and start a conversation. I'm too obsessed with all the PUA thing... Too obsessed about eye-contact, smiling, DHV, C&F... That's too much pressure. And I think I'll fail if I don't take some distance with the PUA stuff. Don't get me wrong, I have to keep all that in mind, but I'm so focused on closing that I'm not even IN THE MOMENT.

=> Actions:
- Focus on conversations! (speak to everyone and hold conversation with strangers, be funny)
- Close only when I feel comfortable enough.

All I have is strangers.
Since the beginning, I'm trying to engage strangers. The fact is, I broke up recently, and I left the school where I was studying, so it's really hard to meet friends of friends. Yet, I think I'm trying too hard with strangers. I should try to extend my social circle. I'll have less pressure if I meet new girls that way.

=> Actions:
- Go out with friends and meet new friends.

Me, myself and my needyness.
I'm beeing needy, and thanks the the community (thanks BridgeBurner me-myself-and-my-damn-needyness-help-vt81644.html & Hakuna advice-please-vt81604.html ) I know that meeting new women will help me. Yet it's weird to realize how much insecure I can feel. I have to work more on my inner game and definitely avoid oneitis.

=> Actions:
- Meet new women.
- Avoid Oneitis.
- Don't leave the Game if I end up in a LTR.

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Hope this kind of refelction will help other AFC in the learning process.

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In a way I agree with you. If your head is too filled with all these theories of all these different schools, it will be overwealming for you. Right now you need to forget about results, forget about closing. Just focus on being social, saying HI and engaging consersation with strangers. Do the newbie mission. Have fun doing it.

On the other hand, I have to warn you about taking a break. You can't give up because it's hard. That's your human nature, our inbread procrastination kicking in. Don't let it overtake you. You are curently taking the few steps it takes to be a better, more social you. Woemn will come, so will friends. Don't let it all down.

Work hard on improving yourself. What are your goals in life? where are you going? What are your best qualities? Your faults? Are you ok with living with these faults? Can you improve them? Take time to get this down. To know and love yourself.

If you are not comfortable with who you are, how can you expect any girl (or friend) to be? Find a way to love yourself, to be confortable with yourself and others will too.

... but in the mean time, keep approaching and being social! ;P

Bonne chance!

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Hi TheJ!

Don't worry, I'm just having a break for TODAY. Since I'm leaving to Brazil in February, I had to go to the doctor to check if everything was alright. This post was just a reflection on how I feel about my journey.
Exactly, I have to focus on being social for now I think. I'll move forward when I'll be comfortable with the Game.
I've no issue about myself. Of course sometimes I lose confidence but that's ok. I'm confortable about who I am. That's not a problem. If I felt ridiculous, it is because I've been reading & watching a lot about PUA, but in the field, I was ridiculous, making all the mistakes I could possibly do.

So, from now on, I'll try to focus on being social and apply eye-contact, C&F, kino BEFORE number-closing. I have to be comfortable with this before even trying to get a number.

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DAY 6: Having a break... but...
Contact lens and rap star.

No sarging today.
As I said earlier, I was having a break today. The last 2 days have been exhausting, even if the results were low. Yet, since I had to go to the doctor, I though I could try to be social.

Contact Lenses.
Before going to the doctor, I had to go to the social security. At the reception, a 19yo HB8,5 with wonderful eyes. I asked her where I had to go to have what I came for (this detail does not matter). I went upstairs and stayed 10 min. Just before leaving, I spoke to the girl (translation from French to English):
- Thanks, have a nice day.
- You too..
- Oh, by the way, it's lenses? (just before leaving, the translation is bad, sorry)
- What?
- Your eyes? It's lenses?
- No (shy...)
- Not bad. (leaving)

I was not trying to approach or number-close, I just wanted to do it. And actually, I did it with confidence, I was not shy and had no problem to make me understand.

Rap-star lifestyle might not make it.
Since I began my journey from AFC to PUA, a lot of strange things happened to me. While I was in the waiting room for the doctor, a guy engaged the conversation with me. I kept speaking to him and then realized he was Nessbeal, a French Rapper. We spoke for about an hour about soccer, rap, and other stuff. I've got to confess that was quiet astonishing for me since I usually don't speak to that kind of dude. Anyway, the guy was the local celebrity... everybody knows him, and for an hour, dozens of people saw me speaking with him... Is that DHV? ^^'

The Game is full of surprises!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzjnTFRcsfQ[/youtube]

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I see You're breaking your ices there . That's very good

And about this rapper... If that's not DHV then what is ?

Like I said, don't focus too much on outcome right now. Just enjoy the process. Most people approach Pick-Up in a way that doesn't allow them to fail or to be ackward.

Allow yourself to fail. It's ok. Don't add the pressure that you must figure it out now, that you can't be ackward the first times. It's like being a kid and learning to walk. There will be scraped knees and frustrations at not being able to run. You'll go through this.

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