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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:18 am 
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Okay, so I got a lot of thank-you's for my last post ("This opener worked on me") and a couple PMs asking me about other openers I like... so, here they are!

Now, I did my research, and from talking with some guys in the chat room a few days ago, I gather that the gym is a very underrated pick-up spot.

I actually think the gym is a great place for an approach. Now, before you tell me "it's hard.. girls have their headphones on!" let me just tell you something. When I'm at a club, or a party, or even at the mall, I expect to be hit on. Why? Because I spend a good amount of time getting ready... and so, I'm confident. I planned my outfit strategically, I did my hair just right, my makeup is fresh... I know I look good. But when I'm at the gym, and I'm not wearing any makeup, and I just got off the the treadmill after running for an hour, and I'm sweaty and sticky and my hair's a mess... the last thing I expect is to be hit on. And so, I have my defenses down. I think you guys can really use this to your advantage...


Need examples? Sure thing; here are some openers that got my attention at the gym:


1.
At my gym we have a running track. I was getting ready to run one day, when this guy comes up to me and asks me how many laps I can do. I tell him, and he says "bet I can do more?" I can never back down from a challenge.
He won. I was impressed.


2.
I was getting off my treadmill, and then this:
Him: Oh man, you're getting off?
Me: (laugh) Yeah... why?
Him: I was secretly racing against you... it's kind of disappointing that you got off so soon though.
Me: (laugh) I secretly race against people all the time... I've been on this thing for a while though... BLBALBABLABLABAH.


3.
Him: I like the way you breathe when you’re under physical pressure… ;)
Me: Really? ‘Cause I like the idea of stopping your breathing with this dumbbell.
Him: (laugh) Alright I should have kept that comment to myself, but hitting me over the head with that thing? Now that’s just gory! You’re into horror movies, aren’t you?

^Okay, now this last opener is a bit risky (if you use it and actually do get a dumbbell to the head- not my fault!) He got really lucky here- I love horror movies, so we actually had a pretty good conversation about them. I will hand it to him though- great recovery. He didn't even hesitate after my (too harsh?) response, and came out looking pretty good in the end.



Anyway, I'm just putting this out there.



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Thanks! This is refreshing...


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Hello Roz,

First, I want to thank you for the information. That helps me a great deal since I go to the gym frequently. Second, I would like a female perspective on an experience I had at the gym recently. I was working out and there was this super hot HB 9-10 that caught my attention, but I did not want to approach her as she was working out and with her friend. So I decided to just focus on my workout and not pay her any attention. As I was working out, she approached me and motioned for me to remove my headphones. She asked me what bodypart the machine I was using worked. Mind you, it was blatantly obvious that it worked the chest muscles since it was a bench press machine. I told her what it did and she thanked me for helping her. Then I continued with my workout and then left.

As I passed by, I could tell she was struggling with the machine and so I decided to give her some adivice and then conversed with her a little bit. However, I froze up and didn't ask for her number or even offer to help her with working out if she needed it. I wanted to kick myself for that missed opportunity. Freezing up seems to be a pattern with me. Everytime an extremely attractive woman approaches me, I always think to myself, "This is too good to be true." Is it possible that she asked me for help on how to use that machine to justify approaching me? Also, from a female point of view, what do you think I could have done differently?


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awesome... thank you for the tips...ive always had AA at the gym cuz i feel like i NEVER can think of a good opener...this style gives me more ideas, thanks.

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Hello Roz,

First, I want to thank you for the information. That helps me a great deal since I go to the gym frequently. Second, I would like a female perspective on an experience I had at the gym recently. I was working out and there was this super hot HB 9-10 that caught my attention, but I did not want to approach her as she was working out and with her friend. So I decided to just focus on my workout and not pay her any attention. As I was working out, she approached me and motioned for me to remove my headphones. She asked me what bodypart the machine I was using worked. Mind you, it was blatantly obvious that it worked the chest muscles since it was a bench press machine. I told her what it did and she thanked me for helping her. Then I continued with my workout and then left.

As I passed by, I could tell she was struggling with the machine and so I decided to give her some adivice and then conversed with her a little bit. However, I froze up and didn't ask for her number or even offer to help her with working out if she needed it. I wanted to kick myself for that missed opportunity. Freezing up seems to be a pattern with me. Everytime an extremely attractive woman approaches me, I always think to myself, "This is too good to be true." Is it possible that she asked me for help on how to use that machine to justify approaching me? Also, from a female point of view, what do you think I could have done differently?
Argh you don't need a female to give you an answer to this one - I flailed my arms in frustration when I read this - only because I've been through those situations and NEVER again - and I look back and see how plainly obvious it all was and I was just fighting my inner fear instead of doign what I wanted.

Of course she was hitting on you - you just answered your own question (it's plainly obvious what muscles the machine works) and the fact that you're still asking "Is it possible she was just asking" when you KNOW it's NOT possible, shows how much fear you've got to fight.

And the only way around this is to make cold approaches. Over and over and over again. And I'll tell you - I believe I'm in a really good level of ability now with making cold approaches, but still, more than half of the time, there will be moments, I won't be ready for it, and an amazing looking girl will arrive (attractive to me personally, not just "ideal") and I will get fear, and excuses not to do it, and the ONLY times things go well, is when I physically FORCE myself to say what I already know will work, from past experience, in spite of the fear I'm currently experiencing. The knowledge is there, but the fear is a habitual reaction formed in childhood, so it's always there. But it doesn't matter - when you know it works and you do it, and it works, the fear is pointless - just a hoop for you to jump over, every single time. Not a problem in the long run.

And this will happen to you too if you focus on it, where once a hot girl is talking to you, you have no choice but to switch into positive guy mode. Because you know that's what you must do. And that it's the only way forward, and that it works. Now the moment the pretty girl makes eye contact with me after I open, I get real positive & confident real quick, it's like a lightswitch. I've conditioned myself to feel good feelings about hot girls looking at me, and every time, I jump that first hurdle, but the results get better and better.



And she wasn't having problems with the machine either, that was all just a show for you.


Here's a tip - when you do ask for a number, you have to convey interest. If you don't, it wierds them out, and they may give it but not respond. when you don't convey interest at that point, either they think you're a player, or shy, depending on yout body language

You freeze up because you don't know what you're supposed to do to get the number, and I used to have the same problem. Here's a process for you to follow, without fear (once youv'e overcome your fear you can switch it up, but if you ahve something to follow first, it takes away the fear)

First, be mindful of the time that will mean it will be time to part soon, and very shortly before that, act like you're ready to go without seeing her again, but still very happy to have had talked to her (don't play it TOO cool, very easy to do, and very stupid)
Then when you ask for the number, don't just say "here, gimmie your number" like they say on the PUA videos, you really do have to justify why you're about to, by conveying interest (yes, this is appropriate and even very nessecary at the right moments!) You have to express that you think she's cool and that she left a good impression on you, and you're keen on chatting to her again. Once you have the right mindset, the words will come. For example, last number close (last night) I did say I had to go and said it was nice talking to you etc. Then I turned and pulled out my phone and said suddenly "I'm gonna get your number" with energy, and she said "Really??" like she was flattered, and I said "Yeah you seem really cool! And you like video games, and the might boosh" etc. and I made sure to throw in "I'm gonna call you" or somethng (can't remember exactly , but that's always a good sign you were in the moment, when you can't remember what you said)
And then 3rd step - think of an SMS to send them a bit later (maybe half an hour) to convince them youre not a player, and to keep the spark - some little joke about what you just talked about. In this case, I told her that I hope she's in on monday because I'm coming to get my sandwitch (she works at a sandwich shop and I epxressed a great intrest in healthy sandwitches) - she then said exactly what days she was workign so that I could do so :)

So just quickly
1. you want to convey that you're willing to go without getting her number (that lets her imagine how she's going to feel when you leave and she'll never see you again).
2. Then you quickly switch around and say she's really cool and this was awesome and you're going to get her number etc.
3. And then after you get it, so she doesn't feel like you just stole a number off her, so you send her a funny text shortly after.

Oh and ideally you want to set up some sort of a day 2 (no matter how silly or little) before the session ends, or with that final text. Otherwise you'll lose the spark by not appearing interested enough.

And this is not a straightjacket formula - just do your best to follow it when you're overcome by fear.


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Thanks for the insight, Conker. That helps me a great deal.


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You chicks are so corny.

"Duuhh.. I was secretly racing you! Hahaha". I'm always surprised at the goofy elementary school conversations that excite women so much. But whatever gets you into bed I guess........

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I would like a female perspective on an experience I had at the gym recently.
Looks like Conker got to it before me; his advice is gold, I couldn't have said it better myself.
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You're all very welcome you guys! :)



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I would like a female perspective on an experience I had at the gym recently.
Looks like Conker got to it before me; his advice is gold, I couldn't have said it better myself.
Thanks Roz :)


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this is good stuff. i never like to approach at the gym usually though. i go there to do business, not interact.


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good writings by both roz and conker..and thanks roz for throwin in that female point of view to the topic..i hope to c you actively throughout the whole forum :)


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KEEP
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Walk by girl.. preferably after she is done with a machine or cardio equipment..
and say Hi my name is "NAME", yours is?
Her "NAME"
You "Hey it was great meeting you hope to see ya up here more often"
and then continue working out...

You acted interested enough to talk to her.. she knows you wanted to meet her..
but you are also not hung up on sittin there trying to game her...
Continuing your routine of working out is actually a confident move..

If she isnt leaving.. and maybe she arrived near when you did.. after your routine if she is still there... you can re-approach and continue.. a bounce (most likely after shower).. or even a time bridge to a day two the next day...

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Having females on this forum is awesome! Glad to read this post Roz!


I've never had any problems picking girls up at the gym. I normally don't try unless I'm in the mood :oops: or if they are hot :D.

I just approach them, make some witty comment, and start the conversation. Build a little comfort, break some rapport and close. Then take it from there 8)


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I go to a small gym (used to go to a big one with HOT girls errrwhere, but it was just too far away!) I feel like if you fail, it'll be really awkward because youre gonna see them a lot haha. So I usually dont pick up at the gym, but I might try if i see a cute girl there.


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The gym is a poor place to pick up IMO, as people are there to train and not socialize.


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