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Thanks for the post man! This is the stuff I need to read before going into field to get into the right mood!!


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Great post mate, Made me think alot about myself... For the better of course :D

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You welcome guys!

Another thing, I just read 60's e-books, they are truly awesome! These books really reinforce my perspective, aka the stuff that I have been talking about. You should definately check it out. In no way, I am trying to advertise 60's material. Why am I talking about 60's stuff? Because, those e-books just put me in a calm state, it re-inforced my building blocks in regards to women (to my liking) even further! It gave me a sort of euphoria, eureka moment. I know there's a lot of PUA stuff to read, and it can get quite confusing and a lot of "wasted time", but the 60's stuff in my opinion is a MUST read. :)


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CHEA,

thanks so much for your post! check your private message!


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Now I view myself as the following: Let me think of an analogy. Let's say you get an unknown brand of DVD player, it has "all the whistles and bells" that you could possibly want in an DVD player, BUT it is unknown brand. THEN you compare that to let's say some great brand, let's say SONY, the SONY has only few limited functions, but it is a FUCKING SONY, and no matter what you do, you cannot get rid of that fact. So In a way, I view girls as the unknown brand, and me Myself, I view myself as the Sony dvd player. (Not trying to advertise Sony, Im sure there are better brands than sony, but for analogy purposes, I think I made my point clear).

The point was, no matter how pretty the unknown DVD is, it will never be a SONY player, since SONY player has the SALT IN THE FOOD. HB's can throw at me all the shit tests they want (bells and whistles), I may have no answer to them, but deep down inside, they WILL know and FEEL that I am a SONY, and they will never get the salt in their food, no matter what they TRY. You can also see this in advertising, compare Nike logo (the MAN), against some sort of whishy washy rainbow color logo (the WOMAN), (not trying to advertise Nike). The nike logo is simple and clear to the point, and nothing will change that. Yes, I can agree that the "bells and whistles" are great, and I would like to have it, but if I had to choose for my true satisfaction, I would get SONY, even tough it has less functions. It something like, let's say your grandfather gives you his watch, even though the value of it might be 50 dollars, it was HIS watch, the whole MANLINESS (clint eastwood) bundled in it. HB's can throw Rolex watches at me all day long (shit tests). I do like Rolexes, BUT if it came down to the line, I would choose the $50 grandfather watch. So that is something to illustrate the power values I have against Women.
these are the wisest words i heared so far on this forum
if i had any rep points i would give them all to you mate :)

thanks for sharing,you're making a very good thing :)


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great post man. must have taken u a long time to put everything into words.

people like you make this forum a pleasure to read.

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chea, 100 thumbs up. I've saved this away in my google docs for me to read to pep me up again (I can access google docs from my iPhone)
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Im like you, im good looking and I know it. Girls always cant believe that I have trouble getting dates or just talking to girls in general. I completely and 100% confident about my physical appeal and sexual abilities. Girls I sleep with always come back for more. But even still I have so many insecurities despite all of this. Im smart, good looking, and very good at sex, but I still have insecurities because I "know" deep down I am not good enough. If they knew the "real" me they would laugh; it keeps me awake some nights knowing how inadequate I am. I feel like all my accomplishments with women have been a charade, and my true self would disappoint. I feel if I can truly change my self-image I will be unstoppable.
Me exactly. I have to fucking LIE and tell them I've had a very large, but indeterminate number of girls. The few times I've been honest - it went bad. Only 2 official girlfriends, and a handful of lays. They flat out COULDN'T BELIEVE ME to the point that they assumed 100% that I was lying and it was a trick to get them to feel sorry for me and to get them into bed, and I never saw them again. So now I lie, lie to match the expectation people have. I don't consider it bending to other people's impression of me. I consider their view to correctly reflect the life I'm SUPPOSED to be living (and have had smatterings of it here and there, gradually more frequent), and the issues I've had from a bad upbringing have held me back from living the life I'm supposed to have led.

But the good thing is, when I fool myself into thinking I have led that life, and am that person, that's when I feel the best and do the best things and get along best with people. In my mind, that's the real true me, and some things that went badly have prevented me from living what should be the truth.


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I cannot believe that I am receiving so many thank you's, hehe. Thanks guys! Yeah, basically my aim was to lay out some type of foundation and to just share my thoughts in the hope to help some people out. It's not really words that help you out, it's the feelings that help you out. Since feelings make you "click". So hopefully my sentence structure, and some analogy's that I used in my post gave you some sort of feeling. It's all about action, you just gotta do it. Atleast when the right foundations are in place, the rest is all up to the action.

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chea, 100 thumbs up. I've saved this away in my google docs for me to read to pep me up again (I can access google docs from my iPhone)
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Im like you, im good looking and I know it. Girls always cant believe that I have trouble getting dates or just talking to girls in general. I completely and 100% confident about my physical appeal and sexual abilities. Girls I sleep with always come back for more. But even still I have so many insecurities despite all of this. Im smart, good looking, and very good at sex, but I still have insecurities because I "know" deep down I am not good enough. If they knew the "real" me they would laugh; it keeps me awake some nights knowing how inadequate I am. I feel like all my accomplishments with women have been a charade, and my true self would disappoint. I feel if I can truly change my self-image I will be unstoppable.
Me exactly. I have to fucking LIE and tell them I've had a very large, but indeterminate number of girls. The few times I've been honest - it went bad. Only 2 official girlfriends, and a handful of lays. They flat out COULDN'T BELIEVE ME to the point that they assumed 100% that I was lying and it was a trick to get them to feel sorry for me and to get them into bed, and I never saw them again. So now I lie, lie to match the expectation people have. I don't consider it bending to other people's impression of me. I consider their view to correctly reflect the life I'm SUPPOSED to be living (and have had smatterings of it here and there, gradually more frequent), and the issues I've had from a bad upbringing have held me back from living the life I'm supposed to have led.

But the good thing is, when I fool myself into thinking I have led that life, and am that person, that's when I feel the best and do the best things and get along best with people. In my mind, that's the real true me, and some things that went badly have prevented me from living what should be the truth.
I agree with you. Mostly why we have this women problem in the beninning is probably because of the way we grew up that has affected our confidence and mindset. I personally grew up with 2 grandmother's up until the age of 13. My father had alcohol problem, and my mother lived in the United States. When I turned 13, I moved to United States to live with my mother (Miami). My social life was kind of difficult, I went to about 5 different high school's, due to lot's of moving. I had to learn english, new country, etc... So you can imagine that. Also from small age I lacked to brush my teeth until I developed cavities and then did not brush my teeth due to pain. So I had yellow teeth problem all the way up to age of 20. That insecurity left a major impact on my growing up, since the first move you do is to kiss a girl, and my teeth problem was major. So I did not have many interactions with girls during my growing up. I spent about 20K at the age of 20 to fix my teeth. I did the hollywood smile, and now I have all white teeth, just like the celebrities. So I do have the white teeth now, but still need to catch up with the "correct growing mindset" that I miseed during my teenage years. I will do it, I believe that!!!!!!

But my point is, these problems we have today is just because of how we grew up. Some kids had "good" upbringings. For example even the confident kids in school could of had parents with a "cool attitude", oh cool u brought a girl home, etc... Or jokes about girls all the time. So that just molded in his mind, that he is actually required to bring girls home, or hang out. That's where the so called "naturals" have these skills. Because of the way we were raised up, they don't even realize that their circumstances developed them in that way. We all are naturals, the difference is how we were raised up. Actually personality factor could also matter, but I don't think it does that much. I believe that personality is shapped in a big way of your growing up circumstances.

I think that women want the perfect partner, so when u start talking about the truth, that you didnt have too many women before, they loose the attraction, since you no longer seem to be the same guy they expected in the first place. So a solution of that is yeah, basically to "lie", but that is only for right now. Once you start living the better lifestyle, with lot's of women, there will be NO NEED urge, to tell that you had a women problem before. Right now you may feel the need to share the "history of lacking women", only because you are still in the beginning of the game. Once you get good at it, I believe that urge will dissapear. It's better to leave out some things, and not to say them. Life is a jungle, people want only the best of the best. If they sense a weakness, you are out. So be smart, play your cards right, and you will start living the better lifestyle, and eventually you will turn into your true best self, the way you were supposed to be in the first place!!! When people say be yourself, you have to know what that means, you cannot just go all out, and start telling all kinds of weird shit, just because that's how you think. You have to filtrate what you say, but there is the trick in finding the right balance.

Anyways, once you start living the better lifestyle longer and longer, all these piece of shit doubts, and what not will slowly start to fade in your memory, and you will start living the life you've always wanted and deserved!!!!! Life is a jungle, play your cards RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:16 am 
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I love the concept of inner core overriding all that you do, and when youve found it, you cant do anything wrong, because it is you. You can't run short of conversation and fail infront of a HB10 because your so naturally comfortable with yourself and your ability.

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Many people that seek advice from this website, yound PUA's in the making have had zero/little luck with women. Its hard to give advice on finding your "inner core" when it is such a subjective concept! its closer to religion than pick-up. The problem is society likes empiricism. Openers/routines/NLP/body language are all real and have been proven to work, so people will buy into them first.

What your talking about is what we all aspire to achieve in the end... inner core is like enlightenment, its happiness, its fullfillment in all aspects of life. It takes someone with a lot of maturity to understand its importance!

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@artful - so true - it's sometimes the act of seeking help that works against you! Depends on your mindset. I'm in the mode of asking questions here to inspire me and give me examples of what's possible, to let me feel OK with jumping out there and doing what the hell I want. Not rehearsing things to do, but adding them to the body of knowledge in my head and letting them surface at the right time, because it all adds to "experience", which just pops in your head.

@chea5295 - so glad to talk to like-minded people here. I'm sick of getting the kind of support from the very few close family members and friends whom I've put questions to in the past - they always side with me and say "Ah it's just those girls, they're mean" which is NOT fucking helpful at all. They don't understand where I'm coming from, they don't understand the experience I go through where the girl is CLEARLY smitten by you and then you actually do something to fuck it up, you know exactly what you did, but you didn't know better at the time. And they would be the first to preach "Oh don't change yourself for anyone!" which is all very noble and everything but completely inappropriate here! It's about being the best "self" you can be, and they can't understand that.

Anyway I agree with everything you said, including towards the end - the more good situations that happen, the more I feel comfortable just rocking up to a girl and saying whatever. Just yesterday I tapped a girl on the shoulder and my inner game and resulting body language was such that I didn't even say anything (I may have just started to gesture to her ear) and she instantly said "Oh - do you want to listen in? Here" and gave me the earpiece to her MP3 player. She pre-empted my opener for girls with mp3 players :D Now I have her number and we're texting and she's going to give me a discount on the sandwiches she sells when I meet her at her work on wednesday :)


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dude if i had any reputation i would give you it all!


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