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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:17 am 
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For my first post/question here on this forum, I am confused as to what actually happened with a girl I got to know recently. I am a part-time worker with a sports team. The girl in this topic is a postseason game-day assistant who works with out department (she was with us for about four days over the span of a week). The relationship I have/had with her is perhaps the strangest I have ever experienced. I don't even know what to make of it. Let me explain:

-We are both outgoing people with the same sarcastic sense of humor. As you could guess, this made conversation quite interesting.
-The first time we meet, the topic shifts to sports teams we like. Of course, she likes all of my team's arch-rivals. When I proudly stated one of my teams, she replied with "strike 2." One of her teams lost by a lot that night, and I made sure to let it be known. She joked that she was going to smack me. From this point on, we became playful "rivals."
-The majority of our conversation during the other few days was back-and-forth good-natured banter (again, sarcastic senses of humor). Always a back-and-forth exchange and an amazing ability on us both to keep that going at such a quick pace. Sometimes, she'd make fun of me, sometimes I'd made fun of her.
---Once in a while, I would bash on her and she'd reply, "That's Sandman trying to make a joke about me" with a smirk. Later on, she'd see another "cute guy" and ask me if she looked good (she is gorgeous). Immediately, I say, "Meh" with a smirk. Her friend chips in with, "What did you think he was going to say?," laughing.
-Several times, she would look at me and smile. One of my co-workers overheard her say that I "look good with a good sense of humor to boot."
-So far, so good, right? Well, next come the games. One of the other volunteers became a friend to us both, and she would kino him a bit. She'd even text me to say that "he's keeping me warm when I'm outside." There is a 0% chance she has any interest in him (trust me), so I play that off with a smile. She did initiate some kino with me (she came up and hugged me one day), but since we are in a work environment, only so much can be done.
---She did remark - jokingly (I think) - that "[Guy friend] is nice, and I'm mean," but she smirked and didn't seem angry by any means (yes, I made a remark about her favorite player). I am a bit of a ball-buster and make a lot of sarcastic/witty jokes, but I don't consider myself a mean person...in fact, I'm more on the nice side.
-The questions then rise towards the most recent events. In another one of our back-and-forths, we try to figure out who would win a pretend fight if we fought. (I don't hit girls, but we were putting that aside for the debate...yes she brought this topic up because I joked that she probably doesn't punch very hard). She said, "if punched her in the arm, she'd punch me in the face" in a teasing tone. Being the ball-buster that I am, I made sure to LIGHTLY punch her arm the next few times we ran into each other. One of my other friends claims she was getting annoyed by the joke punching and he thinks that could hurt my chances (she was speaking with her girl friend apparently), but she made no indication of this annoyance to me. She continued to tease. At the end of our most recent day, she claims she "doesn't hug" (I was on my way out for the day). Knowing what was going to happen next, my supervisor plays along and playfully separates us (he's seen some of what's been going on with the banter).

My one big question would be if she was genuinely teasing or if there's a chance she was getting annoyed for whatever reason. I have no way of knowing, though our mutual friend assured me she knows we are only playing around (One time, a girl I knew thought my jokes were serious and got very mad). I could not be very forward, since we are at work and I don't feel like putting my job in jeopardy.

Do YOU think there would be any sexual tension here? What should I look for to determine if there is sexual tension? Is there also any way of telling if she was actually annoyed instead of being funny? Once her volunteering ends - which is very soon - I might consider calling her and seeing if she'd be up for a date - however, she attends college 45 mins away. Given what I wrote, I feel she'd either really be up for it or blow up in my face. No middle ground.


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For my first post/question here on this forum, I am confused as to what actually happened with a girl I got to know recently. I am a part-time worker with a sports team. The girl in this topic is a postseason game-day assistant who works with out department (she was with us for about four days over the span of a week). The relationship I have/had with her is perhaps the strangest I have ever experienced. I don't even know what to make of it. Let me explain:

-We are both outgoing people with the same sarcastic sense of humor. As you could guess, this made conversation quite interesting.
-The first time we meet, the topic shifts to sports teams we like. Of course, she likes all of my team's arch-rivals. When I proudly stated one of my teams, she replied with "strike 2." One of her teams lost by a lot that night, and I made sure to let it be known. She joked that she was going to smack me. From this point on, we became playful "rivals."
-The majority of our conversation during the other few days was back-and-forth good-natured banter (again, sarcastic senses of humor). Always a back-and-forth exchange and an amazing ability on us both to keep that going at such a quick pace. Sometimes, she'd make fun of me, sometimes I'd made fun of her.
---Once in a while, I would bash on her and she'd reply, "That's Sandman trying to make a joke about me" with a smirk. Later on, she'd see another "cute guy" and ask me if she looked good (she is gorgeous). Immediately, I say, "Meh" with a smirk. Her friend chips in with, "What did you think he was going to say?," laughing.
-Several times, she would look at me and smile. One of my co-workers overheard her say that I "look good with a good sense of humor to boot."
-So far, so good, right? Well, next come the games. One of the other volunteers became a friend to us both, and she would kino him a bit. She'd even text me to say that "he's keeping me warm when I'm outside." There is a 0% chance she has any interest in him (trust me), so I play that off with a smile. She did initiate some kino with me (she came up and hugged me one day), but since we are in a work environment, only so much can be done.
---She did remark - jokingly (I think) - that "[Guy friend] is nice, and I'm mean," but she smirked and didn't seem angry by any means (yes, I made a remark about her favorite player). I am a bit of a ball-buster and make a lot of sarcastic/witty jokes, but I don't consider myself a mean person...in fact, I'm more on the nice side.
-The questions then rise towards the most recent events. In another one of our back-and-forths, we try to figure out who would win a pretend fight if we fought. (I don't hit girls, but we were putting that aside for the debate...yes she brought this topic up because I joked that she probably doesn't punch very hard). She said, "if punched her in the arm, she'd punch me in the face" in a teasing tone. Being the ball-buster that I am, I made sure to LIGHTLY punch her arm the next few times we ran into each other. One of my other friends claims she was getting annoyed by the joke punching and he thinks that could hurt my chances (she was speaking with her girl friend apparently), but she made no indication of this annoyance to me. She continued to tease. At the end of our most recent day, she claims she "doesn't hug" (I was on my way out for the day). Knowing what was going to happen next, my supervisor plays along and playfully separates us (he's seen some of what's been going on with the banter).

My one big question would be if she was genuinely teasing or if there's a chance she was getting annoyed for whatever reason. I have no way of knowing, though our mutual friend assured me she knows we are only playing around (One time, a girl I knew thought my jokes were serious and got very mad). I could not be very forward, since we are at work and I don't feel like putting my job in jeopardy.

Do YOU think there would be any sexual tension here? What should I look for to determine if there is sexual tension? Is there also any way of telling if she was actually annoyed instead of being funny? Once her volunteering ends - which is very soon - I might consider calling her and seeing if she'd be up for a date - however, she attends college 45 mins away. Given what I wrote, I feel she'd either really be up for it or blow up in my face. No middle ground.


Dude instead of writing 5 long paragraphs of how you guys constantly tease each other, you can say that in one sentence.. Wow that was a rather annoying read. Anyways getting back to topic.

Look, it's good that you are flirting with her, or teasing her. But NOW you must absolutely move on to the next step. You are delaying way too much man. She is already comfortable with you. And your flirting/teasing has give you some attraction as well. Before she loses that attraction towards you and places you in the friendz zone, escalate with her. There is only sexual tension if you involve kino, which I pray to god you have... And don't ask her for a date. That sets you both up for the interview approach. Just casually say, hey before I go home I'm gona stop by Tim Hortons on the way, I'd love for you to grab coffee with me" and then go from there... Dates are BAD man, don't get in that mentality. Anyways, you are going nowhere by continuing to tease her all the time. And you should also show a real, genuine side of you. And a little bit of a vunerable side. She knows you're a fun guy who's not scared to bust on a girls balls. That shows Alphaness. You just aren't progressing SPAM. GL

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Before she loses that attraction towards you and places you in the friendz zone, escalate with her. There is only sexual tension if you involve kino, which I pray to god you have... And don't ask her for a date. That sets you both up for the interview approach. Just casually say, hey before I go home I'm gona stop by Tim Hortons on the way, I'd love for you to grab coffee with me" and then go from there... Dates are BAD man, don't get in that mentality
I have no idea what Tim Hortons is, but this advice is exactly correct.

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The advice you two gave is usually right. Unfortunately, that's not as much a possibility as you think:

-I'm at work. I don't want drama at work. I don't want my co-workers to see anything at work. I don't want anything to interfere with my work. Because this is my job, I don't want to risk any problems. If this didn't involve my job, then sure I'd make a move more quickly. But at the place I am employed, I need to be careful or it could really burn me if it doesn't work out.
- We get done at 1am. I usually need to go back into work the next day at an early time. She has classes at school the next day. No one is in the mood to do anything (including myself) at 1-2am. We also live about an hour away from the place of employment.
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Before she loses that attraction towards you and places you in the friendz zone, escalate with her. There is only sexual tension if you involve kino, which I pray to god you have... And don't ask her for a date. That sets you both up for the interview approach. Just casually say, hey before I go home I'm gona stop by Tim Hortons on the way, I'd love for you to grab coffee with me" and then go from there... Dates are BAD man, don't get in that mentality
I have no idea what Tim Hortons is, but this advice is exactly correct.
I think it's in Canada and is similar to a fast food/diner place. I could be wrong on this, but there aren't (m)any here in the US.


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The advice you two gave is usually right. Unfortunately, that's not as much a possibility as you think:

-I'm at work. I don't want drama at work. I don't want my co-workers to see anything at work. I don't want anything to interfere with my work. Because this is my job, I don't want to risk any problems. If this didn't involve my job, then sure I'd make a move more quickly. But at the place I am employed, I need to be careful or it could really burn me if it doesn't work out.
- We get done at 1am. I usually need to go back into work the next day at an early time. She has classes at school the next day. No one is in the mood to do anything (including myself) at 1-2am. We also live about an hour away from the place of employment.
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Before she loses that attraction towards you and places you in the friendz zone, escalate with her. There is only sexual tension if you involve kino, which I pray to god you have... And don't ask her for a date. That sets you both up for the interview approach. Just casually say, hey before I go home I'm gona stop by Tim Hortons on the way, I'd love for you to grab coffee with me" and then go from there... Dates are BAD man, don't get in that mentality
I have no idea what Tim Hortons is, but this advice is exactly correct.
I think it's in Canada and is similar to a fast food/diner place. I could be wrong on this, but there aren't (m)any here in the US.
Yes, there are a million reasons that you can think of for not doing anything, rather than actually taking a risk and going for what you want in life. Great attitude.

The point is that you have built rapport, but if you keep things the way they are, you will be friend zoned, I guarantee it. Now, you don't have to follow our EXACT advice, but the point is to move things forward asap. The first point is that kino doesn't have to be sexual - just touching her shoulder, arm, elbow whilst talking is completely friendly, but it makes her feel more comfortable with you, and makes things easier when you do eventually want to make things sexual. Second, why not simply talk to her when the day is over, and just invite her to a day2 some other time? It's totally fine for you to see each other outside of work, and if her stint at your company is nearing its end then if things don't work out it won't be a big deal. Your day 2 should be something a bit different and fun, with 2-3 locations like a tapas place, a bar with live music, and a lounge near your house. THIS is the moment to kino escalate past friendly to sexual. If you do it smoothly, using push-pull, you are unlikely to face a nasty state break rejection if you attempt to k-close. The ball is in your court, now fucking man up and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

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Yes, there are a million reasons that you can think of for not doing anything, rather than actually taking a risk and going for what you want in life. Great attitude.
My career > a girl. If you can't comprehend that, then perhaps you need a sexual harassment complaint to scare you straight (luckily I haven't ever had one). Right now, my career comes first. That's not a excuse. It's being smart.

I'll see what I can do in the near future. Depending on certain circumstances, I will either see her at work next week, or I won't at all (depends what happens with the team I work with). Regardless, I have her number, so that's not such a huge deal.

The basis of your advice is good. But please do not insinuate that a girl I just met comes before my career. It's simply wrong.


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