I'm a senior and she's a freshman...

There is this girl I met and she seen my artwork. She says to me, "Draw me a portrait!" I say, "At a rate of 1 kiss per hour, why not?" Then it was some more bs blah blah and I convinced her to draw me too and she said not many guys ask her that and that she's cool with it. Anyways, I show her only her eye drawn since I already got started on drawing her. She tells me she got started on drawing me as well.

A few days later, she tells me she lost it. Now I have a plan for that. We're in high school so I think I can get away with some more sweet things because that's just how teen girls are...inexperienced emotionally.

I am thinking of telling her once I finish her drawing, "You look way more beautiful on paper" (a back handed compliment meaning she doesn't look very beautiful in person). So this will get her excited and all and when the next day comes...I'll be like, "Oh...I lost the portrait, I'll draw you again next time if you actually pay me."

And then the next day after that, coming into her classroom the teacher is teaching and saying, "Sorry for disrupting your class, may I give something to one of your wonderful students.

And then walking over to her table...and laying my hands on the edge of it and spreading them out trying to take as much space as possible...I hand the drawing and as she reaches for it, I yank it back and point at my cheek for her to give me a kiss. Then saying, "That's better...I don't work for free."

I was also thinking of writing something on the back of the drawing like..."It's too bad you look promiscuous, we won't get along." My reason for that line is actually 3 reasons: 1.) to point out she's slutty in a nicer way 2.) to show that she has to work to get me and to redeem herself and 3.) handing her that portrait with that written on the back is a huge mixed signal making her wonder.

I want this girl as a girlfriend so like I can't really be a another one of those total dicks that make her crazy. I want to make her crazy in a way that pierces her sensitive side because it's a damn good portrait of her and a teen girl would go nuts over something like that...keeping it in her room reminding her of me.

Plus she came at me and she's extremely suspect. Her older sister got pregnant. Every girl that knows her says she's a slut and that she once said she's been at this one guy's house and "nothing happened". Whatever, I see many guys around her touching her and stuff and she gets at me too but I ignore.

Today as I was walking through the cafeteria, she called out my name and I waved as she was waving and then I winked my left eye very slowly. I gotta hand it to myself, it was so damn smooth haha. And then I twitched my head a little and started to rub my eye as if my contact got displaced and she was laughing her ass off. And I didn't even go up to her after that, I kept walking on...

And the worst part is that whenever I neg her, she acts so innocent that she doesn't even get worked up or even take my shit tests. She responds to all of them in an innocent manner that I have nothing else to throw back at her.


I'm going to have to smile less with this girl, show her disgust, pulling out the big guns and putting her mind to work.

She's really something; one of those fun and loving sluts that's not even close to being stuck up. I just want to game her badly to learn, I want to see what happens.

Look, I'm not going to comment on the morality of the situation, because it's none of my business. However,
Those are dangerous waters. I don't know how old you are or what state you live in, or the laws of that state, but, damn, man, that's a big legal risk.

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We're not going to do anything intimate, I just want to make her desperate. I don't want her as a gf either. I just want to get enough evidence from her that she wants to be my gf. That's the line of success for me with her being a freshman.

Hey man, i sent you that email. Take the things from it and do work, i got 4 numbers tonight at a highschool football game just focusing on being social. All you need to do in your situation is talk. Be interesting. Tease her a bit, but directly looking at her and smile. Focus on being nice and cool (not afc), not a dick. Pull out your phone and say your chill we may just be able to get along, put your number in my phone i will do the rest. Once I have the number, i will always text the girls a little while later and say Hey (nickname) its (name), im just shootin you a text now so you have my number. We should totally grab lunch sometime! (if your allowed to go off campus). It works pretty darn well, the best for me so far.

Cheers man.

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When in doubt, Relax!
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when i was in highschool it was too easy to pull chicks. highschool girls arent hard at all....especially freshmen. I dont consider it game at all if you are able to land anything with them. and your a senior...shes a freshmen....anyone else see anything wrong with that? Sorry man but i dont think anyone at all will be impressed.

why bother with all this game if you aren't going to shag her. Why bother with all this game anyway, all these pre-thought out "back-handed compliments", gestures, lines etc. It won't help your game in the long run. I find it way easier just to talk to a girl. Seems to work for me. I never really get shut down anymore and sleep with all the girls i want.

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No she's not.

First stop it, other guys will look down at you, a senior to sophmore is pull offable or a Junior to Freshman but Senior to Freshman is too far even to be talking to her.
Next stop negging, negs are not for high school
and she's what 14 illegal almost everywheres in the world.
Nothing good will come from this...no not even the false sense of self esteem that will be derived from this. The status power you have over her is too great, no skill should be involved.

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Inner game is the core, outer game is just an expression of it

Tons of seniors are trying to get to her and I see them kinoing her all day long. First, she already knows I'm drawing her and I can't back out. I know I "kinda" got the point of promising it to her across, but I can't back out now. And I personally spent a lot of time in that drawing (22 hours so far). By giving it to her in front of everyone including girls of all grades, word will fly around.

In the long run, she will never have me. We will just be friends and stuff but I just like to see this success coming through. You're all right, freshmen are easy to get and she barely rejects the players because she's slutty. Anyone that hot and oh-so-kind is a suspect. This sophomore girl told me that freshman girls are so slutty that they always want to get with the senior guys which is pretty true.

Even if she is easy to get, I want to get HER to feel a certain obligation towards me compared to all the other guys that hit on her. Because IF I were to even get with her, I would have such a tight hold on her from this that she will really reject other guys coming at her.

I actually can't get with ANY girl in high school even though I know so many girls that I've gamed/talked to that I can get them pretty easily (some already have bfs). I am lacking a phone, a car, and a job at the moment so that's what's restricting me from having a girlfriend. These girls want to be taken out, texted, etc. I understand that attraction is present, but the normal standards are to text and go to football games, stuff that true bf/gfs do in high school. I'm not going to kino her during lunch and kiss her before class and that's it. That's just lame, I have to be capable of more, which I'm not. So I'm just planting the seed everywhere because I like satisfaction and to see reactions and learn from it.

I know it sucks for the girls because they don't know my situation, but at least I went from being a nothing to this guy that a bunch of girls want to be with.

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Not really because I will first tell her I lost the drawing and I'll do it next time if she pays me. And then the day after that, I give her the drawing. But on the back I will write, "You look promiscuous, we won't get along." So I'm doing this huge AFC thing with a huge twist that she won't be able to tell whether I'm desperate or not. When people see read it as well, they'll probably tell her, "He basically thinks you look like a slut."

I'm giving you this drawing but you look like a slut, we won't get along. How is that AFC?

Plus, she is a freshman in high school. Girls in high school get emotionally attached easily. People here only really talk about their experience in bars and clubs but nothing that's really high school related.

I drew this girl last year too and gave it to her (but it was in ink and took me like 4 hours instead.) All of her friends were telling her how lucky she is and blah blah and then that girl was all over me. People that know her tell me she still has that drawing. So imagine, it really is something that hits their emotions.

But like I said, what I'm doing isn't entirely AFC. You may say I'll just come off like a dick instead by writing that on the back of it but I don't think that's possible either because the drawing of her is so awesome that she will think it was so sweet.

I honestly have to back Jelly in this. He's completely right. Get your act together. But hey if you're too stubborn, do it, and see how you go from normal to absolute loser in a matter of nanoseconds.

Painting her a picture, my god...

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Why don't you do her homework while ur at it?

first quote u say you want her as a girlfriend
later on you claim you dont want her as a gf at all

make up your mind..

I don't ever really post on this forum after reading it for a few years, but I had to login to comment on this.

OP is not a stable person. There's alot to comment on, so I don't know where to start.

1) "I want this girl as a girlfriend" ... "

2) "Even if she is easy to get, I want to get HER to feel a certain obligation towards me compared to all the other guys that hit on her. Because IF I were to even get with her, I would have such a tight hold on her from this that she will really reject other guys coming at her. " - What the fuck did I just read. It sounds like you are masking your own insecurities. A tight hold on her? Let your girl run wild, you are the alpha male, if she does something that crosses the line, you break it off and find a hotter girl.

3) In the above quote, and the rest of your posts, you sound like you want attention. You want attention from a freshman girl (when you are already a senior) yet forgetting she is underdeveloped and premature (and illegal). Shutting down other guys because she has you? Focus on your social skills and interacting with others in your grade if you just want to be popular...

4) "In the long run, she will never have me." - This is a PUA forum - what is your goal here?

5) "I am lacking a phone, a car, and a job at the moment so that's what's restricting me from having a girlfriend. These girls want to be taken out, texted, etc. " - 3 words for you - self limiting beliefs

6) "because she's slutty." - Why don't you have some respect for this girl?

7) "but I can't back out now." - Yes you can. Please do.