So my friend and I were talking with this one girl I like. That girl told me to draw her and I got started and whatnot with the condition that she draws me too. So she one day tells me she lost the drawing. While all 3 of us were talking about art, I'm like, "I'm so sad she lost the drawing of me...careless people these days...I hope there's another girl that can draw me from that art class" with a funny tone with a sad face.

You seem very insecure. You always make threads that either don't make sense, or serves no good purpose... If you are self-conscious about how you talk to woman, and every word you say to them, just read more books idk.

It all depends on what you could have said there.. You can portray a C&F attitude with a bit of push-and-pull. Say somethin like "Well girl, you didn't have to throw away the drawing because it was so baddd~ I still wanted to see it! Just kidding, come here" and hug here. Say it in a fun manner to show you aren't seriously dissing her pictures. And saying "careless people these days" does come off alittle arrogant and ignorant. I also find it a bit too rude. And you should have addressed HER, and not your friends while talking. This makes you seem even more arrogant. Remember, you should not cross the path between cocky and cocky + funny.

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Shinigami, I don't know what it is man. I always think what I say is good, but from your critique, it's actually not. I get the basic theories but my stuff just isn't working and it's messed, I admit.

Compared to you, I'm 18, I never had a gf or made out. I used to be so shy. What I've become so far is a dick with a lot more balls and I know it's not working and I gotta change it.

Lol what was this all about then: craziest-relationship-ever-vt76371.html ??? But dude I can tell you I was in a similar position at 18, actually until 20. I then learned being a nice shy guy will get me nowhere. I didn't change overnight and didn't just learn lines, I started to work on my inner game. I asked myself questions about what makes me unappealing to girls; what is it that makes me socially ackward? It took me time to change some of my character and I can't say I changed completely. What I can tell you is that I am very different from how I was then....
This brings me back to you. My advice is stop overthinking and be yourself. Work on character issues instead of memorizing lines. Good luck I can't seem to see the last lines on my post here since it's my iPhone....

I didn't want to crush your dreams in any way. But I think that the things that will help you the most and will stimulate the most growth in your game is...

Body lanuage and C&F.

Body language is hugely important. A girl will judge you very heavily just on this.
Another is C&F which is very good BECAUSE of many reasons. It triggers all the right things that a girl looks for in a guy. Funny, confident, won't take a girls shit, giving her an emotional ride, unpredictable, and much much more. There are many other things that are also important but these two should be your primary focus. There are tons of e-books on this that you can pdf and download for free by using google.

It is hard to do something when you have been doing the complete opposite for the last 18 years. If you are shy, ur not gona change overnight. But let me knowledge you on something. If a girl likes you and you know it's the right time to kiss and you wussy out, you actually damage your rep/pride/self-confidence more. Why is that? Well, the girl expects you to kiss, and by not doing so, you pretty much will lose all her interest. She sees you as a wuss and not a real man. She will tell her friends about you when they do the usual boy talk. "Hey remember that Bobby kid? He was kind of cute". And the girl that liked you will say "Yeah, cute but also a wuss, don't ever try to get involved with him, he won't do anything anyways *laugh*"... and BAM you've just been exposed to more than that one girl. Being rejected will only get you "exposed" to one girl, and it's not really in the negative way either. She won't be telling her friends how she rejected you and thinks your a wuss because of that" HELL NO. She will see you as a man but maybe she had her reasons for rejecting you. That does not matter, she missed out on YOU.

And think positive. If you think more positive, it is more likely to happen. Check out the "The Seret - Law of Attraction" if you don't believe me.

Hope this helps. Don't be scared of rejection. Dedicate yourself to actually PURPOSELY getting rejected by 10 girls. I swear your fear will go POOF just like that.

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Nyseto, man... Im 18 also and I have been through the EXACT crap you are. I went through the phase of "alright, im not a nice guy, ill be cocky funny" but the funny never made it in the equation. I have learned alot since then. Because i learned how to retain the alpha frame, I can actually now move away from all the cocky funny stuff. Well i dont really move away from it, i just know how to use it now more naturally. BUT, I have been developing my own game theory for guys our age, not the 30 year olds hottin the night clubs everynight. Let me know if ya wanna take a look at it and I can email it to you.

Cheers man.

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