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Do you want to speak to some of the female members like Zip or Bonita about how easy female game is?
Explain "female game." Perhaps they are overcomplicating things?
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There is this often cited study (no idea where/who/what/if its even real) about walking up to strangers and asking the opposite gender for sex. Guys almost all agreed and women all rejected the offer.
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I spent a week in budapest with Jezebel when we were dating, and she worked for every set, hell she (GOD FORBID) lost a couple of sets!
Perhaps a cultural thing in Budapest?
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Condoms... we have moved forward, HUZZZAH!
So? What does that have to do with millenia old biological adaptations to make women more selective about who they sleep with?
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The reason a girl will worry while she is alone is becuase of forced guilt, in the same way a member of a cult will feel guilt for blaspheming the group leader.
Yes, and? We agree that a lot of the issue is social conditioning. That STILL means a woman is harder to lay than a guy. Guys don't worry about forced guilt, so they are easier.
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There is no crime committed in a girl fucking a guy, BUT she does believe that being a whore is a bad thing. And will worry about what she will think about herself.
Yes, which makes her less likely to sleep with someone. A problem guys, for the most part, do not share... which makes them easier.
A guys entire evaluation on an offer of sex will be:
No where in there is he worrying what his friends will think, what he will think of himself, nor is there a biological fear that he may spend the rest of his life rearing a child without a provider, or that the condom could break and he'd get pregnant. Hell, even though a condom break would mean the shared risk of child rearing men can just run from that. They do it all the time!
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Ideally, as long as people are keeping it safe and consensual. There is no real reason to discourage women from sleeping with who they want to.
I agree completely, but women talk themselves out of it all the time.
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Or praising them for getting what they want sexually. I think it does men a great injustice when we assume that woman hold all the power in the dating world.
Well, they pretty much do. No woman ever launched a thousand ships to get her man back!
1. Exactly as chief responded, everyone is over-complicating PU. It's actually a very simple process.
2. Don't know about cultural differences but eastern european countries usually value women less in their societies, so it SHOULD have been easier in Budapest. I'll take a look into the study, cheers for the heads up!
3. More selective over who they sleep with? Who says that's the way it is staying? Or indeed that it is the biological imperitive that it remains? The introduction of condoms is going to erode that selectiveness. Maybe not in relationships and partnering, but definatly with sex.
4. In that respect, I agree, us men have less social constraints to put up with.
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A females evaluation of a potential lay.
1) Is he hot?
2) Is there a catch?
3) Is he hot enough I don't care about the catch?
I'd consider the problem with "friends thinking this" toi be in the catch department.
As for the pregnancy stuff, with it's utility gone, the behaviour should begin to dis-appear; though it can certainly be considered a factor now.
6. Ah Great so we ARE on the same page.
7. No woman has ever had the power to launch a thousand ships to get her man back. Trust me, women are quite capable of going bat shit insane becuase they lose their guy!
The best action is to work around the slut mentality. It's there, but it won't be long before the ball starts truly rolling and things shift.
I think we can agree that their is almost no credible sense in the slut mentality left. The sooner it's gone and the problems that "it" solved, replaced with more efficient and free solutions; the better.