What The FUCK ! (Moderators, Sorry I don't usually Curse but this thread is getting blown apart).
I didn't think at first that it would be worth answering to this thread but I see that the discussion is getting skewed and since no one is stepping in I thought I should share my 2cents for what its worth
Posters what the Fuck in the world are you guys talking about !! Gay, No inner game, someone said that the original poster(OP) does not have sexual confidance !! Do you guys even know what the heck you are talking about.
Ezo, I know you dont need anyone to drive your point home but whatever......... I would share my 2cents anyways.
You fucking morons, firstly
who the hell says that Gay men aren't Alpha. Do you even know what an Alpha Male is !! The original poster (I have read his posts) is a pretty good PUA and the number of women he must have slept with is higher than the number of sets you must have approached in your life.... What has being Alpha got to do with ones sexual preferance. An Alpha male is a protector of love ones, leader of men, someone who can take charge in crisis some one who is a provider. And what has all this got to do with ones sexual preference !!
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So this was a thread on how awesome you are...
You keep on telling everyone that it is not a big deal for you.
I dont believe you.
You took all the work to write a kind of long post. The title was obviously intended to maximize the WTF factor. So dont say it wasnt a big deal, you wanted all this attention............I dont like when people start pulling wacky stunts to get laid.
Ezo, you are obviously proud of kissing that guy. Not because you are gay ore something like that. You are proud of a wacky stunt you did.
Mr. Amador, you are one of the more experienced PUAs in this thread hence kindly don't take my curse words as addressing you.
To you comments, I dont think that is the case with the OP. He is making a point here. I agree with you that he isn't completely 'I dont care' with kissing the guy but at the same time I don't think it is to draw attention. I read the post as a guy who was given a test and how he handled it - his prospective.
Besides, What is wrong with pulling wacky stunts if that is who you are and thats how your game is. I dont advocate deceiving or cheating a girl but a lot of people do body rocking (Mystery Method) or showing no interest at first to the girl that they are attracted to, how is that any different !!
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Man... there are way more efficent ways to AMOG a guy than kissing him.
Why didnt you reframe it as he being gay or needy or that he secretly likes you. Or why didnt you just pull the girls away...
Or why werent you just honest and tell the girls that he is trying to AMOG you by kissing you.
Guys are just ugly girls. And kissing an ugly girl isnt cool.
Why bother to do any of the above when the OP just thought of kissing the guy.
He doesn't have a problem with it and so as long as he would move ahead in the conv. why suggest other ways and ask him to reframe. He was spontaneous and he did what came to his mind and was successful. You might handle it differently and
it might work for you but doesn't mean that one way is better than the other.
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It's loving everyone. It's showing respect for everything unless they prove that they don't deserve it.
Hell NO There are different ways of showing love. I wouldn't kiss another guy. I personally would be wierded out But thats just my choice not the OP's.
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......But I'm saying that if you kiss a guy just to get a girl you're lower value by definition.
I ..........WTF. Some random girl made you kiss a guy just because she's hot.
I would understand if you would be gay or bisexual than at least you would enjoy it. .................But you put the girl automaticaly above you just by doing something you dont like doing. Alpha would never do that.
If you're really alpha you can pickup another hot girl without doing something you dont like doing.
Where did you get that idea about Low-high value. You approach a girl because she is hot; does that automatically mean that you have lower value for initiating a conversation,
Hell no ! - Its not what you do but how you do it. And has nothing to do with value or sucking up to a girl.
Do you enjoy Approach Anxiety, I'm sure not. But you still approach women because they are hot or because you want to get laid
You do things, sometimes not for the girl but to face your fear in the eye, to get pass that, not to let your insecurities be a hurdle between you getting the girl. And I think that was the case with OP
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I've read the stuff on gaymogging and to be fair there's some good stuff in there. But this just gets more and more weird...I seriously wonder where people will stop?
'The Game' gets to the next level with some PUA willing to go over board. In general about 'Game', I think MPUAs know a lot of ways of triggering emotions but I can bet that non of them, even if they claim,
know it ALL. Hence I believe there isn't a PERFECT PICK UP ever. We'd just have to wait and watch how things process
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What about judgement? How would an "ALPHA" handle that?
Again its got nothing to do with being Alpha or Beta or being Gay or Straight.
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i think thats taking it to a point where you AMOGed but you did it for a dumb reason, kinda like taking off your shoe with a razorblade, sure you got it off but you sliced up your foot in the process
I want to reply but whatever...I have said already enough... Its strange that you think of it as a judgement error. The OP was comfortable with it so why judge him.
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This poster is just the result of the total emasculation of the American male. Just the sign of the times. Have fun with your new world and new reality.
As Americans/Canadians you had better learn how to change diapers, cook, clean, iron, etc. I am loving this!
Everything I said Above + You are out of your Fucking mind ! Also what is wrong with changing diapers of a little baby, Spending time with someone you love while cooking together in the kitchen, helping you GF/wife/Sig O keeping the house clean, and ironing your own clothes and acting like a responsible adult.
Does your Sexuality depend on these things, do you need constant validation for you being a MAN - Week inner Game, and terrible at relationships I must say !! -Go Figure
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holly shit, pu has fucked up ur mind... u guys should quit with stuff like "A real man doesnt need to bla bla"
Forget I'm not even going to reply
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.........Watching Sex and the City is not gay. Having intercourse, kissing, or pleasuring(in a sexual manner) another of the same sex is a homosexual act.
Very Close... But I'd just say that
deriving pleasure is the right word here. But Kudos to you for getting it close.
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Let's keep this thread open minded and flame free. Both of which seem to be ramped in the recent posts.
You can tell a lot about a person by how they are reacting and interacting with Ezo and the idea of the post. For some of those in this thread, it shows how much further they have to go.
Sorry Boss, but the bashing and fuming agaisnt the original poster has taken the real intent and purpose of this post which otherwise is pretty interesting prospective . And hence I took out some steam
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You guys are really overcomplicating this whole situation.
The point isn't whether kissing another guy is gay or not, when did this become Christian soap opera? The point is, as Ezo has said, he overcame his fear and kissed the dude. And it isn't a big deal.
All of you guys have good points but you are shooting at the wrong target. Let's try and get this discussion back to pick up. ......... They generally respond well to it.
Finally a another guy who gets it
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After reading this, I think there is no right answer. Right now people are manifesting their fears/insecurities into Ezo's situation, and passing judgment based on that. In truth, they are really judging themselves.
As far as my thoughts on this, I wouldn't kiss a dude. Just not my thing.
Another one, Kudos to you too
Okay I'm Tired now and think have said enough. I went to this length to reply back because the OPs post is indeed quite interesting. He is spontaneous out here and did something that I wouldn't do and he took control of the the situation.
Just as a closing note to this rediculous discussion.. Now that I too have blown some steam, i'm sorry if I've been rude to any of the posters in here. Nothing Personal guys
But I truely am amazed with the perception of an Alpha Male that soo many posters in here have (they dont change diapers, cook etc etc..), reframe the situation !! - Rediculous and not needed..