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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:39 am 
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So my friend got a gf and she said she wud help me hook up with one of her friends.
she has a few friends but to be honost they are almost all not my type.

theres 1 tho thats alright and I wudnt mind dating

When I told my friends gf about this she said "NOooo you cant touch that" and I asked why, she said " I'm helping my other friend with her"

So she is trying to get some other guy to hookup with her who is her friend. I think maybe I have a good chance because the girl is prolly an hb6

But I need a girlfriend lol I feel so lonely and everyone is gettin hookedup.

What should I do?
She said when she goes to the movies , she is going to invite alot of her girlf friends and i can come. so I can pick and choose but i already know which one i want lol. If I were to go should I game her?

Also I feel so badly to talk to her right now but i dont even know her, I know her name and I saw her pics on facebook but im scared to add ( creepy?) and I dont know what to do . Should I PM her? and what if my friends gf finds out, she will get mad lol. even my friend said to drop it.


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Its all up to you! How good is your game?

Either you have the mindset that you dont care about whether anyone else is interested in her as well or you care about having a good relation with your friend.

I would drop it if it was me but just out of respect for my friend.

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When I told my friends gf about this she said "NOooo you cant touch that" and I asked why, she said " I'm helping my other friend with her"

So she is trying to get some other guy to hookup with her who is her friend. I think maybe I have a good chance because the girl is prolly an hb6
If this girl you may be interested in is single and so are you, then who is anyone else to tell you who you can and cannot talk to? If you want to talk to her, talk to her. If you think you have a good chance, then why not give it a shot? There is nothing wrong with inviting someone new into your world.
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But I need a girlfriend lol I feel so lonely and everyone is gettin hookedup.
I wouldn't date a girl just for the sake of dating, but that is just me. Don't do it for a social label, do it because you want to. Talk to this girl and find out if you are truly into her. If you aren't, there is nothing wrong with making new friends.
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What should I do?
...If I were to go should I game her?
Well, what do you want to do? If you do go, why not game her? Like I said, there is nothing wrong with meeting new people and making friends.
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Also I feel so badly to talk to her right now but i dont even know her, I know her name and I saw her pics on facebook but im scared to add ( creepy?) and I dont know what to do . Should I PM her? and what if my friends gf finds out, she will get mad lol. even my friend said to drop it.
I wouldn't add her on Facebook or anything yet. If you have the chance to meet her in person first (like at the movie theater), then I would do that. I'm sure others will tell you there is nothing wrong with adding her, and I'm sure it could work out, but I personally wouldn't go that route. If your friend's girlfriend finds out, which seems to be inevitable if you end up talking to this girl, I wouldn't worry about it. Do you think she will get legit pissed for you meeting new people? You are allowed to talk to who ever you want and no one can tell you not to. Did your friend tell you to drop it because he knows the guy trying to get hooked up with her or is he just agreeing with his girlfriend?

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When I just read the name of the post "Do I need approval?".. I wanted to shout NO
and I didn't even knew what is the post about

to sum it up... Do what feels right, just go enjoy her company and if things will go right then no one will be upset because both of you (you and the girl) will be happy!!

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alright thanks
yea my friend knows the other guy who is getting help
and he said that he is a good friend of his.

I guess il just go and have fun, if I see connection i think I will take it slow still.


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So she is trying to get some other guy to hookup with her who is her friend. I think maybe I have a good chance because the girl is prolly an hb6

But I need a girlfriend lol I feel so lonely and everyone is gettin hookedup.

What should I do?
IMO dont settle for less or something that is " 6 ". This may sound like a " good " idea in a short term but what are the consequences in a long run ( meaning that this may help you a short period of time with your solitude but is it the permanent solution to your problem )? Is this the anwser to your core problem ( you not hooking up with more " quality " girls )? Do you really want to date a girl in the future or have a wife who is " 6 " instead of " 10 ". Do you want to live your life with a women who aint satisfying your needs mentally or physically?

If you ask me than:
Go out and contribute more to get better at this whole " PUA " thing. Learn to explore your weaknesses and than improving those certain areas that are stopping you as a better person/ with women. Instead of seeing your problems as a " problem", try to see them as an opportunity to grow.

Read, study, be open minded, dont be affraid to ask help, go out there and try stuff out, explore your weaknesses and learn from your mistakes.

Think of this whole issue like this:
1)I can give you two " ok " quality apples every year for the rest of your life by you staying inside that comfort zone of yours.
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2) I can offer you 30 high quality apples every year for the rest of your life if you are willing to confront your deamons and weaknesses before i actually hand them over to you.

Go out there and get what you deserve!


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yea ofcourse but I dont know 100% of what I really want.
I dont know if I just want a gf or If i want to date more than 1 girl at once.

But If i were to date this girl she would be under the lane that takes me to dating more than 1 girl.

She lives far I think and we would hardly be able to see each other so that would give me so much chance to get another girl too or to keep looking for girls.
Maybe if shes really nice, il get under her spell and il think shes hotter than all the girls.

thats what happend to me and my ex. first we were friends , i saw her as average looking so a 5 and then when i started liking her more than friends i saw her more as an 8. I dont know why that happend but i thought she was really hot . now that we broke up i see her as a 5 agian. but thats what happend. So even if i like this girl yea i would prolly think diff of her and her value rating would increase in my head.

I do want a 10 for my girlfriend but from what it sounds ... 10's are the ones u have to neg alot , arent 10's the bitch type girls. Can I really see myself marrying a girl whos like that? Not really... unless these HB10's are just acting and are actually really sincere and caring when u get to know them.

If I was getting 1 girlfriend i would want somone i can trust ofcourse and just looking at HB10's i wudnt e able to trust them lool.

I like how u mentioned comfort zone and I do remember somethings about it. Its very hard to get out of your confort zone but once u do u usualy always end up happier and proud of urself. Recently I havnt been really going out of my confort zone and that is what I think is holding me back so much. I feel like I shudnt even feel that feeling of nerviousness and i try to drop the thought so that i dont feel bad.

I am very insecure at times and I am obv not an alpha male.
Approaching girls is not my main problem, I approached many new girls at dances and parties, more than 1 of my friends but he still gets more girls and he gets hb6 and up girls. For newyears he is with an hb8 and they kissed so he can close that easily. He prolly didnt even approach her, because he has so many friends that they all get connected. I approach girls and then i dont know how to make them like me? So far in all my approaches iv never used openers .. maybe thats why? I just say hey my names .... and offer handshake. And then i make them laugh but then i have nothing else to say.

I still do have approach problems because iv never aproached a girl at the mall
and ofcourse im too young for clubs and bars.


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yea ofcourse but I dont know 100% of what I really want.
I dont know if I just want a gf or If i want to date more than 1 girl at once.

But If i were to date this girl she would be under the lane that takes me to dating more than 1 girl.
I think the first step is figuring out what you really want. If you want a girlfriend(s) in general, you should start with one and then go from there. If you're happy, keep it the way it is. If you aren't happy, move on.
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She lives far I think and we would hardly be able to see each other so that would give me so much chance to get another girl too or to keep looking for girls.
Personally, I'm not a fan of long distance relationships, but don't let that discourage you if you think you want one. The reason I don't see this long distance relationship fitting you is because from earlier posts it seems like you want a girlfriend because all your friends have them and because you feel lonely. As seen below:
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But I need a girlfriend lol I feel so lonely and everyone is gettin hookedup
...so if you are lonely, how would someone who is not physically around change that? Sure you would have someone to talk to, but the physical aspect is not there, and I don't see that solving anything. Just think about that and tell me what your opinion is on it. Also, you said all your friends have a girlfriend. Would having a girlfriend who lives far away (as you said) really make you feel "fit in" or no different because she isn't there? Do you want a girlfriend just to "fit it" or because you truly want one? If you don't truly want one and are just doing it because everyone else is, do you think you will be happy?

Again, I am not trying to discourage you from doing this. I am just throwing you food for thought and maybe pointing some things out that you didn't take into consideration.
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I do want a 10 for my girlfriend but from what it sounds ... 10's are the ones u have to neg alot , arent 10's the bitch type girls. Can I really see myself marrying a girl whos like that? Not really... unless these HB10's are just acting and are actually really sincere and caring when u get to know them.

If I was getting 1 girlfriend i would want somone i can trust ofcourse and just looking at HB10's i wudnt e able to trust them lool.
That's an unfair judgement in my opinion. Just because a girl is very attractive to you doesn't mean she is a bitch or untrustworthy. You'd be surprised how many attractive girls are very friendly and open. Do you get this impression from past experience or because of others' opinions? Also, referring to your comment on negging, most people go overboard on this and take it too far. Negs are useful, but in moderation. Don't focus so much on having to do this or that, just do it. Flow with whatever comes to you and don't think you have to neg this girl X amount of times based on her appearance. I'm in no way saying don't neg, I'm just saying this should not be your only focus when gaming her.
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I am very insecure at times and I am obv not an alpha male.
Why do you feel this is true?
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Approaching girls is not my main problem, I approached many new girls at dances and parties, more than 1 of my friends but he still gets more girls and he gets hb6 and up girls. For newyears he is with an hb8 and they kissed so he can close that easily. He prolly didnt even approach her, because he has so many friends that they all get connected.
Well if they are your friends and you are in the same social circle, shouldn't that mean you are connected as well? I would stop using someone else's success rate to measure my own. Everyone has different goals when it comes to girls.
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I still do have approach problems because iv never aproached a girl at the mall
and ofcourse im too young for clubs and bars.
Try checking out the day-game threads on this forum. You'll probably find some useful advice there.

In summary of all of my comments: The reason I inquire so much and ask so many questions is to help both of us better understand what it is you really want to accomplish. I am willing to help you as much as I can once we establish a starting point and an ending point. Starting point being when you plan on first talking to her (whether it be online or meeting up in person) and ending point being what you ultimately want from her.

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Thanks alot for replying and helping me out. As you probably noticed, this is a bigger issue than the topics title lol.


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I think the first step is figuring out what you really want.
Yea I think so too. I think your right, I should start with a girl and then see if shes worth it or what.
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The reason I don't see this long distance relationship fitting you is because from earlier posts it seems like you want a girlfriend because all your friends have them and because you feel lonely.
Well the truth is now that I realized it, my only close friend doesnt have a girlfriend and he struggles with girls too. My other friend who I mentioned I hardly am really close to him and I am not in his main friends circle. I just feel jelous that he gets girls and I dont. When ever I go to these dances that come up ocasionally, thats when I usualy see these guys who are not really my close friends anymore. I used to be part of their friendcircle but then I only really was part of their circle because of the girls well not only becauise of the girls because i mean they werent that good looking, but I really used to only talk to the girls, I didnt like the guys that much i dont know why. I would talk to girls about my emotional problems and about tips to get girls or stuff. I was really emotional back then when i was in that circle. Then when I broke up with my 1 month gf , i started reading about pickup and stuff. I dont know if I anaylized David Dangelos Double your dating properly, because I never used to actually go out and try the stuff. But what came out was that I was supposed to be cockey and funny to get girls. After the breakup I started acting like a jerk to all my girlfriends, to me it was fun because it made things so interesting but in the long run, i pretty much llost them as 'freinds' lol. But it fixed my emotional problem and that was a good thing. When I mean emotional problem , I dont know if it was a phase or what but i was just usualy depressed , and not confident and pretty much an AFC.

Then the breakup happend and I was angry which then lead to huge depression. and after like alot of months is when i got over that depression and got cocky. Also to mention, my old and pretty much only relationship was with a girl i only met once, and i used to talk to her on messenger every day over the summer and that brought our attraction. I didnt know anything about game and I just talked to her as a close friend. Then somehow she actually liked me evne tho she prolly forgot what i looked like. I went for it and then we dated for a month...but i was so insecure , always thinking that maybe she doesnt really like what i look like or something (because we used to talk through a friken computer lol). But it was a long distance relationship and I only dated her on weekends so I guess like 3 dates is all I had and then she broke up with me a few days after our best date :S. Althought it was so short, it felt so real because we talked for so long and had alot of history. So maybe your right that long distance relationships wont work for me cause my experience was bad.

But then agian, I kinda dont want a real full on dating relationship right now. When I think of close relationships, I think of like,
girl at your house, already familier with parents and family
Girl who calls you everyday to talk
Girl who you take on dates almost everyday
Girl who gets emotional at times

This could be with even long distance relationships and thats why I dont know if i want a 1 type girl friend, unless shes the type that isnt so bothering and all. I dont evne know why I feel unconfortable. Possibly I feel wierd about ti because I dont get girls. I know a friend of mine who is scared of even being around girls and thats maybe because he doesnt talk to any. So it could be a similar situation. The reason why Im scared of using phone is because like i hate awkward moments. Call them and then its just i dont know what to say. Thats why i think why not avoid it. All in all, I need to get out of my confort zone and I have to try. Im sorry for just expressing all this , im just trying to give out information that might be relevant.

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so if you are lonely, how would someone who is not physically around change that? Sure you would have someone to talk to, but the physical aspect is not there, and I don't see that solving anything.
I can see where your comming from, but when I mean long distance, I dont mean too far. The girl I mentiond in this post is in my city so I dont know if its that far. But like its far from my school and she has no friends in comman that I know of. Anyhow If I have a girlfriend right now this year, I do not want one to date on weekdays. I just cant date on weekdays because im in grade 12 and my studys are way more important than getting girls right now. If I dont get into university, my life is going to have to change badly, but If I dont get that girl, there will be more opportunities. I dont even have time to play video games and watch tv. I dont know if i have a learning problem but my homework from school takes atleast 4 hours minimum a day give or take. So I pretty much am saying I dont have time on weekdays for a girlfriend. Im looking for a girl who wants to hangout 1 day a week, or if I really like her, I can even just study with her at the local library.. I do have my licence to drive !. Anyhow I dont want this girl calling me on weekdays while i do homework cause then il have to stayup till 11 finishing my homework. Thats just my problem right now, but on holidays like break, I wouldnt mind dating her and all.

I feel lonely in the sence as no one to talk to. I dont get girls calling my phone anymore and i mean no friends that are girls. I really want a girl whos attracted to me to call me and yea somone who I am attracted to also. I dont really care If I will hardly see her in person much but aslong as i know she'll be there when I need her then its all good. Like I mentioned above, If theres a dance, I can take her to the dance and not only fit in but also will have fun with her at the same time. Althought only some of the friends i know at the dances will have girlfriends, the ones that dont will be jelious and I dont like those guys verymuch so it'll be a win win for me.

I also want a girlfriend to just proove to myself that I can get girls. I mean I havnt gotten a girl since my ex and thats a long time. I cant get a girlfriend and I want one because when i was dating my ex, it was like the best thing in my life, i slept with a happy smile, i would always think about her, it was such a good dam experience. Was happy to wakeup the next day to just go on my computer and talk to her (lmaoo).

Those friends I mentioned that goes to dances, I dont really talk to them outside the dance, i mean and i hardly talk to them even at the dance so I dont know if their friends anymore or what but they are ppl i can say hi to and talk to for a while and sit with etc.

I only pretty much share almost everything to my 1 friend and he doesnt get girls and I mentioned him b4. I usualy dont go anywhere without him and at school this is the worst days of my school life. Because hes gone on vacation ( well comming back tomorow!!!!!!) and at lunch I have to sit with guys i am not opened with. Guys who disclude me , like i have to sit on the end of the fkn table. Guys who dont get girls. The guys that do get girls are jerks and i dont even want to be their friends because their racists n shit. I just like this 1 friend and you know what they say... you become what your friends are. They say hangout with guys who get girls and u will start getting girls. I think its true because when I had a gf, i didnt really talked to my best friend who i have now and i used to talk to more of the guy who I mentioned am jelious off, the guy who kissed an 8 on newyears.

Anyways, I want a girlfriend because of many reasons.

Girlfriends have friends, maybe i can finally get into a new and mixed friend circle. ( I dont really have a friend circle and I want one because i dont do anything on weekends now).

Having a girlfriend brings good feelings ( but also bad... so thats why i thought b4 maybe i jus want more than 1 girl instead of 1 serious girl.) Maybe if its bad feelings, i can just dump the girl and get other girls... but as you may have noticed, i am not good at getting girls... if i was,, then maybe it wudnt be so bad because i could just move on to the next train .

I will fit in more at dances and i can just have great time with my girlfriend.

I can also make other guys jelious

Other guys will be like " oh yea he gets girls"

Guys can look up to me.

thats all i can think of right now.


But I think yea getting a girlfriend can make me super happy but with risks of sometimes feeling bad because it involves os much emotional conection. But getting just hookups and multiple dates will make me happy too just not as happy ( i think) and will not have any emotional connection so no sad times.





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Would having a girlfriend who lives far away (as you said) really make you feel "fit in" or no different because she isn't there? Do you want a girlfriend just to "fit it" or because you truly want one?


Well I guess i just want to fit in at dances and Im hoping for a girl that would be able to attend dances with me. I usualy only see these guys at the dances so thats why. Also If I go to malls or just dates, I can bring her with me. She isnt too far from me, maybe a 15 min - 20 min drive so I dont know if its far. But I think I have more problems to fix b4 going after any girls. I also want a girlfriend because its a good experience and It will be fun dating her (once a week ofcourse lol). I think that i just really want osmone to make me feel special or like loved or just interested even.




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Just because a girl is very attractive to you doesn't mean she is a bitch or untrustworthy.

You are right , It was my bad for assuming. I think its because I never really talked to any 10's. When I think of a 10 I think of a girl that looks like paris hilton. Although I dont think paris hilton is that hot, she has like that type of attitude that demonstrates higher value. Whats what I pretty much think. I never think of a girl whos beautiful and really nice on the inside and lovable and all. I personally think that I dont know much about gaming girls. I want to relearn everything because I dont remember much and I didnt really finish learning any of it. My friend was saying that he is going to teach me and I talked to him once about it and he was supposed to teach me how to get girls naturally. He tells me he is good at getting girls but iv never seen proof, he has a girlfriend and shes pretty decent. But I really want to start over and learn the right things. Thats why I started comming to this forum alot.

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I am very insecure at times and I am obv not an alpha male.

Why do you feel this is true?

I feel this is true because, I dont think I have much alpha male qualites, I think i just fake the qualities. I wasnt naturaly a jerk I became a jerk thinking i could get girls because I thought Jerks had a better chance. Now I know they dont and I lost so many friends cause of that.

Am I an Alpha Male?
Alpha male is like the confident guy, I am not confident at all in getting girls . Why else but because I dont get girls. When I get a girl come to talk to me I play my cards right, I lean on my locker make her look more interested in me, demonstrating higher value to others watching... but do I get girls? no. I never had a girlfriend since my ex and common I didnt use any game to get her... i didnt even know about game and i was 15 when i dated her.

Alpha males is the guy who has alot of friends , you can tell I dont. I dont really care about friends much like guy friends, i just want to get girls... i just care about girls lol. I have 1 good friend i feel thats enough. but I do want a friendcircle just for hanging out.

Alpha male is like the guy who hosts parties, the leader, the inspirere. I never host parties, im very unsocial because i dont go out on weekends anymore , i dont have a friend circle so how can i lead one. I inspire people and try to teach my looser friend ( who is afraid of being around girls) some game.. but he doesnt listen to me and i dont know game my self really.

Alpha male speaks up for themselves, gets out of their confort zone. I hate getting out of my confort zone and thats because I feel ppl will notice. Like in my philosophy class I used to raise my hand often in the first week of class. then suddenly i stoped raising my hand.. stopped answering questions. And Philosophy is all about personal oppinion and alll, so Its the class where you have to share ur thoughts. I hardly do. And I dont know if its because im not good at expressing how i feel verbally or because im nervious.

Why Im insecure?

I dont like my looks. They say looks dont matter but I believe they do. They matter a little bit. To me any guy thats average can get girls as long as they have extremly good game. I thikn I might be below average.

I just hate almost everything about my face.
My nose is long and big... its not even semetrical iv noticed.
my face has acne ( which i think is going away so thats good news ) but its leaving holes or scars in my face (thats what sucks).
My eyebrows are thick...i prolyl even have a natural unibrow kinda.. but i shave that off in the middle.

Im 5'7 thats short compared to average I think. And even my younger brothers are taller than me... but im 17 so maybe il still grow.
Im not muscular just skinny ( I weigh 130lbs and i want to increase so that when i start working out i can loose the wieght... i also am afraid of stunting my growth.)
Also my chest and back have marks from acne and that discourages me from taking off my shirt, from working out, from swiming, from even comming out of the shower with just a towel. none of ym brothers suffer like this ( from what i see).

I cant speak properly, my choice of words when talkin are all basic. I studder alot thats why i have problems speaking.

I have eye problems like i cant see far distance but that doesnt relate much to this topic lol


So yea I hae alot of inner self to work on but I dont know how to do this... I mean commin Neil Strauss said all those things about himself being ugly and all but when i looked at his picture, he didnt seem ugly infact seemd pretty decent.

He got piercings and went bald and all but I know for sure I cant get a real piercing nor do i really want to. I know it might make me look better but my parents wont allow and in our tradition i dont think anyone has earings in my whole family whos guy. I can get a clip on but i dont know where to buy em.

also no tatoos.

Theres not much i can do for looks but wear good clothes and cologne.


And common I still dont believe that the short guy who looks disabled... who is a very motivational speaker ( I forgot his name) and who somehow dates models. I dont belive that he dates models. I mean i dont even believe he can date a 5. from looks he is like prolly a 1. and evne with good clothing he cant get to the average level. I dont know I think hes just saying all this stuff and he prolly sells books and wants ppl to buy it for money. Maybe he pays women to hangout with him... But common like even if it is true, this is like a one in 1000 chance an ugly guy will be sucessful with girls. Thats what I think.

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Well if they are your friends and you are in the same social circle, shouldn't that mean you are connected as well? I would stop using someone else's success rate to measure my own. Everyone has different goals when it comes to girls.
So yea i mentioned we arent really in the same social circle anymore, so I dont talk to him much out of school. the girl hes with is his bestfriends brothers girlfriends friend (lol). But i guess your right i just get jelious tho. Right now i just want to improve and actually be able to get girls then I can start thinking about getting more girls at once and open relationships etc.





Dam It took me maybe an hour to right this maybe 2 .... its long so im really sorry to make u read this. I just expressed anything that came to mind.
I think instead of focusing on this girl that i might meet up with, I really think we shud focus more on my self first. I have so many issues and I dont know what I really want. Sometimes I want 1 girl but then i realize I want more than 1. But the truth is I cant even get a girl to be attracted to me who I am attracted too aswel. I cant choose my girl, they always choose me. I think what I really want now is to just be able to get girls attracted to me. I do what a girlfriend and maybe I want more but what I really need is girls to be attracted to me first in order to have the ability to choose. Maybe once I (if I) begin to start getting alot of girls to like me, then Il become a pua. Maybe I only want 1 girlfriend because I cant get much girls and 1 girl could be all that I can get?


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Well the truth is now that I realized it, my only close friend doesnt have a girlfriend and he struggles with girls too. My other friend who I mentioned I hardly am really close to him and I am not in his main friends circle. I just feel jelous that he gets girls and I dont.
Well, jealousy aside, let's get you to where you want to be. You see this other guy having what you consider success, and you want to be at this level as well. If you are comparing your success to his and getting a jealous emotion, we should start with ending that. Jealousy is a natural emotion and we all get it or have had it, but the thing is, your jealousy is based off of assumption. Sure it looks like this guy is getting girls, but is he happy or getting the girls he wants? Also, I have acquaintances who couldn't get a girl if their life depended on it yet they are surrounded by girls... who are nothing more than friends. Point being, don't worry about this guy, worry about your own matters because you don't know his stance with his situation - why be jealous of someone who may be unhappy or unsuccessful in your terms?
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I would talk to girls about my emotional problems and about tips to get girls or stuff. I was really emotional back then when i was in that circle. Then when I broke up with my 1 month gf , i started reading about pickup and stuff. I dont know if I anaylized David Dangelos Double your dating properly, because I never used to actually go out and try the stuff. But what came out was that I was supposed to be cockey and funny to get girls. After the breakup I started acting like a jerk to all my girlfriends, to me it was fun because it made things so interesting but in the long run, i pretty much llost them as 'freinds' lol.
It sounds to me like these girls saw you as a close friend, and then over night you turned into a jerk toward them. Maybe a little imbalance in the C&F department haha. It's all about calibrating everything and that will come with time and practice. There is nothing wrong with reinventing yourself, in fact, it can be a really good thing. Your frame just changed too drastically too fast.
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So maybe your right that long distance relationships wont work for me cause my experience was bad.
The way I interpret things in my own life is that everything is a learning experience. A bad experience or a learning experience? You sound like you had a few good times with this girl, so was it ALL bad? In my opinion, you just had an experience that you drew something from. Now you know what to expect next time and you can change the outcome. You had bad feelings during this experience, not a bad experience - so don't associate a long distance relationship with bad feelings and don't be afraid to let the next girl into your life.
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The reason why Im scared of using phone is because like i hate awkward moments. Call them and then its just i dont know what to say. Thats why i think why not avoid it. All in all, I need to get out of my confort zone and I have to try. Im sorry for just expressing all this , im just trying to give out information that might be relevant.
Moments are only as awkward as you make them. Don't call if you don't know what to say. Most people on here will say that when you do call, make it short and to the point. Be witty and interesting, but be mysterious. Save long conversations for in person experiences. This goes for texting as well. When you call, don't stay on and listen to each other breathe, just say what you have to say and that's all. The part I bolded is good. You thought of something that you should do to help, and I say go for it. Getting out of your comfort zone is how it sounds - uncomfortable. End result, you will look back and say, "That wasn't so bad" or "That was actually fun!".
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Im looking for a girl who wants to hangout 1 day a week, or if I really like her, I can even just study with her at the local library.. I do have my licence to drive !. Anyhow I dont want this girl calling me on weekdays while i do homework cause then il have to stayup till 11 finishing my homework. Thats just my problem right now, but on holidays like break, I wouldnt mind dating her and all.
If this is what you want, make sure you make this clear to the girl in the beginning of the relationship. It wouldn't be a good idea to leave this bit out and then seem distant once you start dating. There is nothing wrong with focusing on your studies, and yes, they should be very important to you. Prioritize yourself before you make any haste decisions.
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I feel lonely in the sence as no one to talk to. I dont get girls calling my phone anymore and i mean no friends that are girls. I really want a girl whos attracted to me to call me and yea somone who I am attracted to also.
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Like I mentioned above, If theres a dance, I can take her to the dance and not only fit in but also will have fun with her at the same time. Althought only some of the friends i know at the dances will have girlfriends, the ones that dont will be jelious and I dont like those guys verymuch so it'll be a win win for me.
Again, do things for yourself, not to impress friends or show off... of course, once you have what you want, there is nothing wrong being a little showy :lol:
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I also want a girlfriend to just proove to myself that I can get girls. I mean I havnt gotten a girl since my ex and thats a long time. I cant get a girlfriend and I want one because when i was dating my ex, it was like the best thing in my life, i slept with a happy smile, i would always think about her, it was such a good dam experience. Was happy to wakeup the next day to just go on my computer and talk to her (lmaoo).
Now you have an end goal. It seems to me like even though you may be a bit back and forth as to whether you want to commit right now, in the end, you really do want to.
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I only pretty much share almost everything to my 1 friend and he doesnt get girls and I mentioned him b4. I usualy dont go anywhere without him and at school this is the worst days of my school life. Because hes gone on vacation ( well comming back tomorow!!!!!!) and at lunch I have to sit with guys i am not opened with. Guys who disclude me , like i have to sit on the end of the fkn table. Guys who dont get girls. The guys that do get girls are jerks and i dont even want to be their friends because their racists n shit. I just like this 1 friend and you know what they say... you become what your friends are. They say hangout with guys who get girls and u will start getting girls. I think its true because when I had a gf, i didnt really talked to my best friend who i have now and i used to talk to more of the guy who I mentioned am jelious off, the guy who kissed an 8 on newyears.
You don't have to be close friends with these guys to use them for social proof. I remember back in high school there were a few people I was not "friends" with, but I'd still chat with them in the hallways or slap them a hi-five walking past. Just be social and it will help you overall. You don't have to exchange numbers with these people and be bros with them, just be cool. You'll gain confidence and it will help you with your people/communication skills over all. I went from being a new kid nobody knew at my high school to being the guy everyone knew and the guy who got girls. I ended up dating some very attractive girls in high school and I'm not bragging but merely pointing out that you can change a lot by simply being social. In high school, social proof is key. Be the guy that talks to everyone and has fun. Give a good extrovert vibe and people will naturally gravitate toward you. Sit with these guys at lunch and don't be afraid to join in the conversation and joke around. If they exclude you, it's their loss.
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Girlfriends have friends, maybe i can finally get into a new and mixed friend circle. ( I dont really have a friend circle and I want one because i dont do anything on weekends now).
Having a friend circle can definitely boost your inner game. Like I said before, try talking with these guys at your lunch table. They may know girls who you click with or introduce you to other guys and girls you get along with. You don't know who other people know.
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I will fit in more at dances and i can just have great time with my girlfriend.

I can also make other guys jelious

Other guys will be like " oh yea he gets girls"

Guys can look up to me.

thats all i can think of right now.
Again, don't focus on qualifying to other people. If you just do things for you, it will reduce the amount of stress you feel by social pressures. Maybe that contributed to the depressed phase you went through. You didn't feel accepted by your peers so you got down. When you were dating this ex, you didn't feel the social pressures because you were where you wanted to be. Think of it like this:

Don't give a shit -> Less social pressure -> Not being depressed -> You being more happy -> You give off a good vibe -> People gravitate toward you = social proof -> You'll have an easier time connecting with others and possibly getting the girl you truly want.

Everything leads to another like a huge domino effect. Sometimes we have to work backwards to find this pattern. Set a goal and then go backwards to find the steps you need to get there.
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But I think yea getting a girlfriend can make me super happy but with risks of sometimes feeling bad because it involves os much emotional conection. But getting just hookups and multiple dates will make me happy too just not as happy ( i think) and will not have any emotional connection so no sad times.
Before you focus on the emotional aspect of dating or get too concerned with it, focus on first having fun. Fun attracts people and will allow a girl to open up to you when you throw in some comfort with fun and good memories. The emotional aspects will come naturally overtime as feelings begin to develop. I have a close friend who dove into the emotional aspect of things waaaaay to early with a girl he just met and it scared her off. She just wanted to take it slowly and have fun with him but he was to concerned about the "I love you" part to appreciate her and live in the moment.
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I wasnt naturaly a jerk I became a jerk thinking i could get girls because I thought Jerks had a better chance. Now I know they dont and I lost so many friends cause of that.
Here's another example of a learning experience. You found out what didn't work for you and now you can change that.

An Alpha male just is. If you try to be an Alpha male, that's just acting Beta. If you look back at the formula with all the neat little arrows I wrote above, I feel that it may also help you grow some subtle Alpha qualities.
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I dont like my looks.
Simply put: how do you expect others to be comfortable with you if you aren't even comfortable with you? You may not be able to change the physical appearance of yourself, but the material aspect can always change. Try changing your clothing style or wearing your hair differently. It may not be all about appearance, but I feel presentation plays a factor.
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Dam It took me maybe an hour to right this maybe 2 .... its long so im really sorry to make u read this. I just expressed anything that came to mind. I think instead of focusing on this girl that i might meet up with, I really think we shud focus more on my self first. I have so many issues and I dont know what I really want.
Don't apologize for anything. Sometimes just letting things out and expressing yourself can make you feel a lot better. I think it's good that you once again found a problem and a solution all by yourself (bolded part). Talking things out is never a bad thing. For inner game, I would browse the inner game section of this forum and I'm sure you will find countless topics on nearly anything you could want.

Hope I was of some help anywhere through out this rant I just wrote haha. Let me know if you want to me explain something better or if I wasn't clear somewhere.

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Alright, thanks for helpin out so much man. I am going to check out innergame section so I can start getting on the right track!

I also am going to try to just not care... maybe thats my newyears resolution ! To not care what others think.


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