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 Post subject: Re: Breaking Rapport
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:57 am 
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I just checked a couple of articles, including one by you to get a better understanding of breaking rapport and I realised I'd just done this with a pretty sexually aggressive girl. however, this other girl isn't and I'm stumped for what to say to her, I feel like I've got nothing to go on (theres no way I could say anything about I'm not having sex with her, she's an ex so I'd freak her out)... are there a couple of standard lines I can tweak!

I don't want you to do the pick up for me, I just need a push here.

At the mo I'd go with... "man, I can't believe how much things have changed for me in the last couple of years, I know we're both doing well career wise but I'm definitely not your type anymore. And I'm pretty sure you wouldn't take my shit and I wouldn't take yours, and we'd argue all the time, I'd win of course! So we're prob not right for each other now. How have things gone for you in the last couple of years?"

Background if you need it...
We always got on well, she split with me because it hurt her that I wanted to travel without her. Now shes almost blocking me. I'd at least like her to be friends and comfortable with meeting up, but I've gotta break down her barriers.

Thanks man

Hey 0oAshleyo0,
OK, this one is a bit more tricky because you are dealing with an ex who you have a history with. What it sounds like to me is that you might need to build up more comfort with her before you try to break rapport. If you're not even at the stage where you are meeting up and being casual friends then breaking rapport is the last thing you want to do as it will only drive her further away from you!

I recommend contacting her on a very casual and nonthreatening basis and inviting her for lunch or coffee at a place she likes and already visits on her own. That way it is on her “turf” but you're still the one leading the situation since you suggested it. Then from there have a very normal and friendly interaction. Catch up on how things have been since the last time you saw each other. If things are going well yu can try to get a bit flirty (which is a break in rapport) but only a little bit... you don't want to come off as too strong too soon.

When that goes well plan another meet up – as friends! – and then try to build it up from there and try breaking rapport to spice things up.

Definitely build that comfort back up before you try to break rapport. Trust me mate, if not it will go horrible wrong!


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:58 am 
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Hey Adam, I am a college student and I noticed that I'm not as social as I thought I was. I'm not really shy or nervous around people in general, but I don't really say much and I don't talk that much unless I really really have to. I also noticed that most of my conversations tend to be very dull to both guys and girls.

So are there any drills, or tips that you can recommend me to develop my social skills and to help me become funnier, more humorous and be a better flirt with girls?

Hey alpha_seeker,

Some of the best tips I can give you in terms of making sure your conversations aren't dull or boring is to just make sure you are socialising with EVERYONE you come into contact with. Start off small but make sure it is consistent... speak to the woman at the grocery store, the guy who cuts your hair, the barista at Starbucks, literally everyone. The more people you interact with, the easier it will be to interact with your peer group and those in your social circle.

Communication and conversational skills is just like any other skill or hobby you want to learn. If you don't practice it, you won't improve. Also, don't be afraid to add your own information to the conversations. If you are talking about the weather (which is often a boring and mundane topic) throw in a story about how one time there was a horrible rain and your house got flooded. If you're taking about the movie The Hangover chime in and say how one time you and your buddy went out for a drink and woke up the next day not knowing where you were and missing a shoe. Whatever it is, make it truthful and don't be afraid to go for it.

We can teach you how to kick a football but you won't be playing in the World Cup overnight. It takes practice. Good luck mate!


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:59 am 
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Greetings Adam. Good to know you're still gracing us with your knowledge.

I just screwed up with this girl. I won't lie, I'm hurt. I'm pondering how/if I should LJBF her considering the only way I can contact her now is through sms and Facebook, although she might not respond.

But looking back at our interaction I noticed that she responded well to disqualifiers and negs, which made her qualify and DHV herself. Throughout that whole time, she was into me and I kino'd her to the point where I was pretty much fondling her butt, but I didn't go further because I really wasn't interested in her and only began consciously gaming her in the last few weeks out of the five months I've known her in college (I'm graduating next week). It was really thanks to following your formula I suppose. Only just last weekend, I had been smsing her non-stop for 3 days as she was keen to talk to me. Now she's hardly replying and maybe even stopped.

I seem to be stuck. I didn't kiss her even though I thought things were going well before because I thought I had to show interest after qualification. Where things got bad was when I "rewarded" her with SOIs after she qualified herself. Apparently this pushed her away and now she's not attracted to me anymore. I've pinpointed my SOIs to be the start of my problems so I'm seriously considering not using SOIs anymore as it verbalised my attraction and caused me to get invested and act AFC when she did not react.

What struck me is that before verbalising how "impressed" I was, I was able to kino escalate her to the point where she didn't mind me touching her on her back, legs, butt and face because I'm assuming she did not think I was interested. I'm convinced I could've kissed her. But after smsing something like "Wow I like mature people. They're easy to talk to" when I qualified her based on maturity, she reacted negatively by not replying. And this was repeated.

So should I have discarded SOIs and rewarded her with escalating kino instead? Would it have led to a kiss and more? Should I LJBF her now?

She's not a knockout but she definitely rates as a 7.5-8 for me and whenever she posts updates on her facebook status, about 5-10 AFCs will leave comments immediately. She's also has a non-caring attitude which I guess counts as a hot girl mentality which means she acts differently from other girls so I'm not sure if what happened here is applicable to all my interactions. I'm led to believe that my negging + other qualities was what attracted her, but after I verbalised interest, she categorised me under "Friend".

Thanks Adam. I hope you find the time for this.
Hey kentheman,

Firstly, congrats on graduating uni!

I am a big fan of SOIs but I think that they have a certain place for when to be used. If not used properly they can backfire as they are showing too much interest, which is what seems has happened in this situation.

It sounds like the kino and escalation throughout it went well. You should then use an SOI to assess where you are in the interaction but don't use it as a tool throughout your game. For example, if you're bantering, the kino is up and things seem like they're going well you can say “You know what... You're fun and I like you.” That is a clear Statement of Interest HOWEVER it doesn't make you too needy. Then based on her reaction you can see where to take it. If she gives a giggle and a smile and says she likes you too, then keep gaming and escalating If she pulls back a bit then you're not as far along in the interaction as you think you might be, in which case you should also pull back and try to build it back up again.

SOIs can be tricky but they are powerful once you get them down. Good luck bro!


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:48 pm 
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Hi Adam,
All the best for the New Year!! :)
Now, I have been gaming for about 3 years after reading The Game.

I can say I have a good detection system (or “Radar”) of what I believe girls think is attractive in a room. I work in an office environment and nearly every day I try and improve my natural game and try out new techniques.

So, these are my questions:
1) With my “Radar” I find there is a guy in my office with a VERY DEEP NATURAL BARATONE VOICE that booms across the room. In my mind it is like JUST THAT ELEMENT Makes him Alpha above all other guys and makes him attractive to all women EFFORTLESSLY and subcommunicating Dominance etc above all other guys. However, top PUAS such as Neil Strauss, Mystery and Gambler etc do NOT USE OR DEVELOP very very deep voices. WHY?

2) Would it be weird to start trying to Naturally Kino alot diff girls in the office/or kichen at work?

3) I was thinking to try and be MORE Natural and COMFORTABLE around women at work/in office/kitchen etc, to start using terms regularly such as Babe or Babygal. I was thinking this might create a nice vibe (if done in joky/funny or natural way) and also DEMONSTRATE Preselection as I am calling many diff girls babe like their mine. What do you think on this?
Plus, I mean from your experience do a lot girls like it if you give off that “Player” joky vibe with them (as long as ur not overthly sexual) or is it best to come across just honest/sincere and normal with each one?


Thanks and all the best!


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:57 pm 
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I've been talking to this girl i recently met. Everything was going perfect until the holidays where we did not have any time for each other. now talking to her on myspace, she seems a little sketchy. like she doesn't kno if she likes me anymore. i guessing maybe because of the gap in the communication. i haven't yet been able to see her but we're still msging each other. i like her but i'm thinking i might be wasting my time now. i'm not sure if i should cut her loose yet, but if i did would saying something like
("I really like you, but you're making it really hard to tell if you want this continue or not. If not then just say so.")
be a bad idea? I don't want to sound unconfident, i just don't want to waste my time.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:40 am 
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Hi Adam ,

First of all let me just start and say Happy News Years and hope the coming year will shower all of us with love and happiness. All People everywhere.

Bro, My Journey throughout this experience (started 2 years ago) has been excellent, It started with basic lucious intentions about getting laid etc... now its being used as a tool to get to know more people.

Bro here are something I need to ask you actually:

1-What innergame tips do you use/ material you recommend to check out in order to break out from your bubble. I saw you doing the dancing vid and its not the dancing technique that amazed me its the amount of balls it took. Your inner game escalated in all senses what did you use or read ?

2-When you go out do you frame yourself , Im going out to meet more women as friends even if they are hot ? in order to build your entourage game. What do you frame yourself from within ?

3-What factor do you layout there when taking out so many women? there is a hidden secret behind it im sure, some guys do entourage game but factor is for example , money they pay for their drinks etc.

Hope you can answer these questions Adam.
Happy NYE,
God Bless


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 Post subject: Your Thoughts
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:53 pm 
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Hey this question is for anyone out there.

So I was at a new years party last night and i thought of a possible opener / neg. I just opened over my shoulder with:
Me : "So.. which one is your bf here?"
Both HBs: "oh..we uh dont have Bf's ..."
Me: "oh you guys don't have any friends?"
Both HBs: *laughed* What was your name?"
Me: " well im.....blah blah... "

So what do you guys think ?


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:42 am 
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Hi Adam firstly congrats on becoming world number 1 pua. and what is
the best way of dealing with drunks on the dance floor during dance game despite using alpha male body language and elements of the dance game I still have trouble with drunks who deices to throw themselves around the dance floor knocking into me and others being compete idiots and cock blocking me because there out of it. what is the best way to stop this happening or at lest how to recover for it without looking like a beta male

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 Post subject: RE: Daygo post :)
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:18 am 
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RE:

Hey this question is for anyone out there.

So I was at a new years party last night and i thought of a possible opener / neg. I just opened over my shoulder with:
Me : "So.. which one is your bf here?"
Both HBs: "oh..we uh dont have Bf's ..."
Me: "oh you guys don't have any friends?"
Both HBs: *laughed* What was your name?"
Me: " well im.....blah blah... "

So what do you guys think ?


Hey Daygo,
As you did say anyone could answer your post I will give it a shot :) But of course if Afc Adam/anyone else wants to reply to it as well then that's great!!

I actually believe you had a good cocky/funny opener with..
Me : "So.. which one is your bf here?"
And they responded immediately letting you know they didn’t have Bfs (IOI), giving you the green light to esculate the situation with both of them.

You replied with a Neg/break in rapport saying Me: "oh you guys don't have any friends?" to which they IOIed you with a laugh and asked your name.
You could of course have amped the attraction from there by asking them both to guess your name etc…then rewarding them with Kino (eg a hug or high five) when they got close/or got your name right (obviously helping them with clues if needed). Finally you would then Isolate the girl you wanted and esculate from there or just make good friends with both and stay in comfort with them.

I reckon another opener and transition that could work well would be:

Me : "So.. which one is your bf here?"
Both HBs: "oh..we uh dont have Bf's ..."

Me: Ok, well if you guys impress me enough, maybe I’ll make one of you my girlfriend :)
(Takeway/Directive and Reward)
Both HBs: Haha (IOI etc)

(This cocky/funny DHV immediately sets you up as the Leader, screening both girls and jumping straight to qualification were they are jumping through your hoop to impress you. You can then improvise from there

Happy Gaming! :)
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:49 am 
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Hi Adam firstly congrats on becoming world number 1 pua. and what is
the best way of dealing with drunks on the dance floor during dance game despite using alpha male body language and elements of the dance game I still have trouble with drunks who deices to throw themselves around the dance floor knocking into me and others being compete idiots and cock blocking me because there out of it. what is the best way to stop this happening or at lest how to recover for it without looking like a beta male
Yeah, I find this a problem too. I've been out with girls before then a guy comes up to them and starts to chat them up, whatever. Sometimes they see me sometimes they don't. Sometimes they are not very drunk either.

My question is apart from Alpha male body language how do you get rid of other guys that are a threat without appearing needy, jealous and with lowering your value.

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 Post subject: hm
PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:28 am 
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hi Adam il make this quick..
im 17, and game comes easy for me. i still study it cause i learn fast and use many good things to apply in game, just for self improvment really. well, there is this girl i like quite a lot, but for some reason i cant get a negative or postive response from her. i neg her, she negs me back. i am sweet to her, she acts neutral, and i get a neutral response for almost everything.. im working for weeks to get a positive and even now a negative

how can i push it to see if she is interested in me?

by the way i havnt kinoed much, just a huge and a little flirting

mR.e

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Hi Adam.

1. You're playing a lot of social circle/social proof game and I wonder how do you play your game if you're in some city/country where you dont know nobody? I'm talking about night game here?

2. How do you play your game if you want to get same night lays?

3. How do you open a bithcy HB10 and get to the hook point?

Thanks for answering
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Hi Adam,

I was dating this girl for four months, we had been best friends for a year before we started dating. Recently she ended things saying that she missed the way things used to be in the friendship because it feels as if we weren't as close as we used to be, and wanted to go back to being friends. She tried to contact me for a couple weeks afterwards but I more or less politely brushed her off, and now we haven't spoken in 3 weeks, as she's stopped trying to contact me. Is there any thing I can do to get her back, or at least build attraction back so I can sleep with her again, she's a 10 lol.

Thanks so much for any advice you can give me, greatly appreciated!


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 Post subject: The Cocky / Funny thing
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Hey Playboy Gen X thanks buddy I agree with you totally I will throw that a couple parties post the results, thanks again for the help!


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:43 am 
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Oh one more thing Adam. This one's short I promise.

How do you LJBF a girl immediately? I'm seriously thinking about doing that to all girls I know, then building attraction later. Also, is it fine to LJBF a girl after she put me in the friendzone? I've tried this on 2 girls who LJBF'd me and were acting cold, by telling them "Make no mistake, I wasn't interested in you to begin with" (disqualifying them/myself), and both responded really well. In fact I reckon I might be able to build attraction and escalate while I'm friends with them. This "being friends" thing is really starting to sound useful. It's also sounding like an illusion.
Hey kentheman,
LJBFing girls is a good thing and definitely not an illusion. You LJBF them by gaming and socializing as normal but don't sexually escalate AT ALL. All you really need to maintain a friendship is comfort, which is essentially by having commonalities between you.

If done correctly, it is very easy to then build attraction because so much comfort and history is already built. However be aware that if you try to break out of the friend zone you might end up losing the friendship.


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