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Looks matter a lot.
And yes, people with better looks have much higher S&R value. They get treated better, get more opportunities, have more friends. They are always preselected. Subconcioussly everyone (even hetero guys) are attracted to better looking people.
And what's also important - most good-looking guys have natural confidence and strength, firmly backed up by female attention.
Yes, good-looking guys also get rejected sometimes, but rarely with F-word and usually in a friendlier and less bitchy way than average and ugly guys.
Once my female friend told me: "If a girl says, that looks don't matter, then she's lying". And she is 100% right. And what makes things worse for ugly people - it's facial features (something that can't be changed), that are most attractive to women.


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I look like a million dollars. Most the time I don't get the girl because I have a ton of psycological hang ups. It has nothing to do with looks only with feeling. People are all emotional, and looks help with emotions, but overall, looks are only a small assumption. What matters the most is what is on the inside. Don't be naive.

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I see it that looks are natures way of peacocking. Its just an instant attraction creator nothing more. It creates initial attraction but if you have no game or personality you will lose the girl. There are two major points about attraction that may cheer you up;

1. Many women will insult or ignore a very good looking man because she will think that you are too good for her. You guys can argue all you want but i live with three women. Ive watched it happen on nights out and we've discussed it about celebs and the like. And these arnt super sensitive, uptight women these are semi-attractive normal women.

2.How many women have you met that you thought were beautiful, then you started talking to them and realised that her personality sucked. Suddenly she is less phisicaly attractive. I look at my ex-girl friend, i thought the sun shined out of her arse and that she was realy beautiful. Now i see she is average in looks and has the personality of a wet fart. Soo..

Moral of the story is "Everybody judges a book by its cover initialy, but if the contents are crap the book goes in the bargin bin"

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How many women have you met that you thought were beautiful, then you started talking to them and realised that her personality sucked. Suddenly she is less phisicaly attractive.
Attractive girls are almost always funny and social. That situation usually only happens, if girl wants to reject you, so she behaves in a bitchy or boring way.


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How many women have you met that you thought were beautiful, then you started talking to them and realised that her personality sucked. Suddenly she is less phisicaly attractive.
Attractive girls are almost always funny and social. That situation usually only happens, if girl wants to reject you, so she behaves in a bitchy or boring way.
Rite there is no way you have been out sarging for any length of time. You always get attractive women who are bitches. Its inevitable that beauty will get to some womens heads. You cant be serious?

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Indeed, looks matter. But even if the guy looks like, say Brad Pitt, and that feature of his persona grabs the ladies attention, if he as a person isn’t able to keep that fragile attention then … he will just crash and burn.
If looks matter, women wouldnt sleep around with so many ugly men
Maybe you should learn to read the whole post before you start arguing.

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Moral of the story is "Everybody judges a book by its cover initialy, but if the contents are crap the book goes in the bargin bin"
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How many women have you met that you thought were beautiful, then you started talking to them and realised that her personality sucked. Suddenly she is less phisicaly attractive.
Attractive girls are almost always funny and social. That situation usually only happens, if girl wants to reject you, so she behaves in a bitchy or boring way.
Dude, there are many many physically attractive girls who are boring and have shitty personalities purely just because they got used to getting by on their looks. Yes, if they're attracted to you then they'll try harder to get you and try harder to be interesting and not boring, but that still doesn't mean that they'll actually have an attractive personality because then they get needy.
They may be sociable, but saying that they're almost always funny is a bit of a lie.
If attractive girls generally werent bitchy, guys wouldn't be as intimidated by them.


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Your mentality is 3/4 of your game.

Sounds like shit? No, lets think... You must be asking yourself "Why those nerds and not so good looking arent getting women then?!?" Simply because they are aware of their "ugliness" and dont like it -> It decreases their confidence -> They loose big part of their game -> They got no looks, no confidence -> They are zeros to women


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GO Jezebel!!

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I ask because I do not think I am a bad looking guy, but I do have a problem with my hair. I am nineteen and have a receding hairline...big time. I have remedied this situation by wearing a fedora when I go out (which I suppose is a bit of peacocking as well), but I am afraid if I meet someone with my hat on, they will not be attracted to me with my hat off. How much of the game is looks?
You may not know this but Burt Reynolds was once the biggest movie star in the world-his career was mangled by a dreadful attempt to cover a receding hairline.

Contrast this with Bruce Willis, who similarly began to lose his hair at an almost identical point in his career. He simply shaved it the to the scalp to look natural. He also bulked up, which a shaved head emphasizes. His career if anything took off after that point.

In "The Game" Mystery advises Strauss to do the same thing "A shaved head is a choice, balding isn't".

An additional point: chicks absolutely love touching a shaved head.

Finally, you are worrying way too much about looks. You have to remember a lot of the edge good-looking guys have is down to the self-confidence the looks generate, not the looks themselves.


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I have to agree with Pushkid in SOME ways.

Yes, men who are attractive are usually always confident in a good way and this is VERY good in attracting females.

Me being an attractive man, I build instant social proof around girls because I ALWAYS have at least 1-2 girls in a club hitting on me.

Also, I've met MANY extremely gorgeous girls, and after 10 minutes of talking to them, I thought, "Wow, I'd rather talk to a wall"

I've noticed a pattern with GIRLS -

Girls who are pretty are usually dumb and lack personalities and are usually shy.

Girls who are ugly, usually almost ALWAYS have amazing personalities and will hit on you before the hot one does (Confidence)

In some weird way, guys who are ugly are also low self-esteem and have shitty personalities (Minus the fat funny guy, you all know what I'm talking about), but girls are different when comparing looks to personality.

When I was unattractive, I had low self-esteem and now that I'm extremely good looking, I have almost too much self-confidence and it can come off as cockiness.

But, trust me, nobody LIKES the superior human being, but they all follow him.

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Of course looks matters. It is one of the qualities that a woman might look at. But it is not the only quality. For us, men, looks are the only thing we look at when we judge a woman. For women, looks do matter, but not to the same extent as for men. Don't listen to those people who say that women only go for looks as they are plainly lying. The biggest player of all time used as reference in Mystery's book was Casanova. Casanova slept with many beautiful women. It is well known that Casanova was not a good looking guy. But if women only care for looks, than how did an ugly guy as Casanova manage to get so many of them in bed ? He achieved 10 time more women than the most handsome guy on the planet being as ugly as hell.


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Of course looks matters. It is one of the qualities that a woman might look at. But it is not the only quality. For us, men, looks are the only thing we look at when we judge a woman. For women, looks do matter, but not to the same extent as for men. Don't listen to those people who say that women only go for looks as they are plainly lying. The biggest player of all time used as reference in Mystery's book was Casanova. Casanova slept with many beautiful women. It is well known that Casanova was not a good looking guy. But if women only care for looks, than how did an ugly guy as Casanova manage to get so many of them in bed ? He achieved 10 time more women than the most handsome guy on the planet being as ugly as hell.
Well, you have to remember "beauty" back then wasn't what "beauty" now is.

Back then, small penises and hairy women were attractive...

Lol

This goes to show we are attractive because of what the culture portrays us to be.

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how you look does matter, extremely. by that i mean, what you wear, how you wear it and how well you are groomed.

actual facial symmetry, doesn't matter AS much.

every man has the potential to be to be average or "fuck-able/date-able"

Instead of worrying about your receding hairline, worry about how well you match and that you don't have a uni-brow.


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i cba reading what everyone wrote so im sorry if this was mentioned but...

and i quote from loose women (british tv show)- "looks dont mean everything, ive never go for guys on looks.. but when your on the pull you dont wanna get with the ugliest thing in the club. you want to get with the hottest guy! *laugh laugh im a bitch of a women with no morals* ... " lol

This comes to every puas (unless you can dance like a spanish hero) the dance floor is a death trap.

if you go to a club, where you cant talk cus the musics too loud and your not the best looking guy, youd probably look like an ugly munter wearing so much bling he looks like a wrinkly penis, with a extra thick condom on and a cock ring.

but if you go to a bar and make girls laugh, neg, show your cool, have an awesome life etc. looks dont mean bullshit :)

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