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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:14 am 
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I needed this good night our after I got blown out earlier today (see here) messed-around-with-a-girl-havent-called ... 54317.html.

here is the girl: Hot asian. Super skinny, tight ass body, perfect smooth unblemished skin, cute face. Only major flaw is TINY chest. I'm pretty sure my boobs are bigger than hers. I'd give her an HB-7.5 (first asian girl i've been with)
I met this girl at a conference for work. No kino b/c it would have been inappropriate, but I showed little interest in her and Cocky-funnied / push-pulled her the whole day. She asked for my email at the end of the day.

Day 2 - Coffee. Casual, relaxed. Did 1 game routine, other than that it was just a bunch of DHV'ing (though i may have bordered on coming across as arrogant) - very little kino.

Day 3 - Met her out for drinks. Turned the kino on. Cocky/Funny - Lots of games - routines - comfort building. Tried to talk deep emotional stuff as often as I could. Casually touched her as often as I could. Played the 3 questions game - she loved it.
We were at a place where we were both sitting across a table while eating/drinking, so at the FIRST OPPORTUNITY i moved bars. We went inside a random dive bar and I immediately sat us back in the couch in the back in a secluded area.
Here, I ran the cube for the first time on anyone. I was SO bad at it. And her answers were like WTF??
TWO cubes - one close and on the ground - one far and floating (both medium sized). Flowerpot with 1 yellow flower sitting on top of the closer cube.

wtf??? i have no idea how to cold read or interpret. I spouted random words/bullshit and she gobbled it up!!. She loved it. The cube works.
However, I need to learn how to use it better and sound even more smooth....

Now we are right up against each other, sort of holding hands at this point. I do a kiss routine where I put my arm around her, and pull her into me with my face close to hers as if I'm going to kiss her. Instead, I don't - I just let go and talk again.
I do this a second time.
On the third time, she grabs my cheek and forces me to kiss her (this has worked 100% of the time for me - it just builds sexual tension and she wants you to kiss you).

So we make out a bit at the bar.

I say I need to get home, so I'll split a cab with her and drop her off first. I make it very clear that I just want to drop her off and go home and sleep. (lol, just a line).
As the cab stops at her apartment (after more making out), I'm like "actually, I've changed my mind. I'd rather go up to your place and cuddle".
Now, at this point, 90% of the girls blow me off. They all say "NO" in some form or another, and then never return my calls.
However, this chick was like "Ok!"

ding ding ding!

go up to her apartment. we kiss, do the Kino-Escalation routine that I read about online. It works, we're both naked... but then she gives me LMR.
The LMR = "youre dick is too big, it's not going to fit".
I'm not kidding. this sucks, but i've gotten it before. I've failed to have sex with 4 different girls because it "didn't fit" (~8 and a half long, but the reason it doesnt fit has nothing to do with the length, it's just REALLY girthy apparently). and she makes a comment that now she realizes why I'm so cocky and arrogant.

Anyway, this is the first asian girl I've been with, so I continue to just lay on the heat, fingering her, etc. She finally decides to give it a try. She gets on top of me, and we get the head in only.. I give it a few thrusts, and it feels great, but all I can get in is the head, and she rolls off after about 5 seconds and says it's not going to work.
She also refuses to go down on me or let me go down on her.
So, instead I say im going to cum on her chest, but instead I spit rope all over her face (which is just as gratifying to me as full on sex).

So, then I get dressed and leave...but.. I cant really have sex with her.. so even though i like her, and she obviously likes me, I guess there will be no day 4 since we CANT have sex.
Sucks too b/c she's the first asian Ive ever been with and her tight rock hard, hairless body was AWESOME, i loved it.
anyway, moral of story = having a huge dick sucks. It's worse to have a huge dick than a small dick, because at least with a small dick you probably don't get cockblocked because you can't FIT IT IN. ugh.


How do I sound smooth while using the cube? I had no idea how to interpret the shit she was throwing me way.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:23 pm 
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I'm like "actually, I've changed my mind. I'd rather go up to your place and cuddle".
Now, at this point, 90% of the girls blow me off. They all say "NO" in some form or another, and then never return my calls.
However, this chick was like "Ok!"

ding ding ding!

go up to her apartment. we kiss, do the Kino-Escalation routine that I read about online. It works, we're both naked... but then she gives me LMR.
The LMR = "youre dick is too big, it's not going to fit".
I'm not kidding. this sucks, but i've gotten it before. I've failed to have sex with 4 different girls because it "didn't fit" (~8 and a half long, but the reason it doesnt fit has nothing to do with the length, it's just REALLY girthy apparently). and she makes a comment that now she realizes why I'm so cocky and arrogant.

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Firstly: You use a line ("actually, I've changed my mind. I'd rather go up to your place and cuddle") to get into a girls apartment, and 90% of girls blow you off and reject you...but you insist on continuing this line?
My advice: Try something new dude, if it doesn't work on 90% of girls. Why not find a solution which will result in 90% taking you into their apartment and only 10% rejection (or better yet...NO rejection lol)??
Why not say "well I'll get off at my apartment since it's closer, then I'll pay my fare and you continue to your apartment..." then when you get at your apartment invite her in. This way it's not you who's intruding. And I would also suggest not to make it so obvious as in "let's cuddle"

Secondly: Your dick was too big? lol I'd suggest using some lube???
If there is none then ask her for some moisturizing cream or something...but I would suggest getting extra lubricated condoms or some shit if you have had this problem before.

As for the cube: practice makes perfect. Play out the routine in front of a mirror.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:35 pm 
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First, my apartment isn't very good for this stuff, so I prefer to go back to their place.
Do you have any other good lines? I'm just surprised that girls reject "let's cuddle" so much when they are making out with me an dhave their tongue down my throat and seemingly want to go further.
I need a line to make them invite me up to their place. "Let's cuddle" has worked more than anything else.

Second, yeah lube is obivous, and I suggested it, but she was just said that "no, that won't help, it's just too much, it just wont fit". I probably could have pushed the point and just insisted she go get some lube and we try it, but I didn't want to make her uncomfortable and try anything she wasn't 100% into, because if she did try it and it was really painful for her, it might makes things worse.
I can't believe she wouldnt at least go down on me. oh well. im curious to see if she wants a day 4 now.


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tell me about the kiss routine u used ?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:19 pm 
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tell me about the kiss routine u used ?
nothing special really. She was just really in to me and I could tell that we had the kind of rapport and attraction where I could definitely kiss her. So, I worked on comfort building, talked emotionally, did the Cube, lots of casual Kino and touching hands, and then I just put my arm around her and pulled her right up against me and looked down into her eyes and held eye contact and smiled. She lifted up her chin as if to kiss me. I could have kissed her right then, probably. Instead, I pushed her away and said a few more things (like 30 seconds), while touching her hands, and then pulled her in close a 2nd time and did the exact same thing and pushed her away. Talked for like 30 more seconds, and pulled her in a 3rd time and looked down at her, at which point she just grabbed my face and started making out with me.

I do that a lot to girls, I don't know why really considering I could probably just kiss them on the first attempt, but I think it's kind of fun and I like it.
Do any PUAs here think that routine is a good or bad idea, considering I could probably just get away with kissing her the first time?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:31 pm 
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Nobody answered his question lol..

Penis + vagina = f-close :)

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LOL dude...I used to have the same issue as you:

The first 3 girls I "tried to f-close"...I couldn't get it in. I considered myself a virgin after all of these times even if the head got in (I really thought I was just awful at f-ing, hah).

Then, I discovered the magic of KY-Jelly and communication...and I realized it wasn't my inability...it was the same issue as you.

Get some KY and enjoy :-)


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:32 am 
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To answer your question, yes.

Something I've often used if a pussy is too tight - go down on her first. It's a great way to get her naturally lubed up between her own juices and yours, and drives about 99% of women wild and screaming for more. I once heard a girl say "even bad head is good head."


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