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based on your above claim im not sure why you want to be given a 'crazy' challenge. your confidence sounds up to scratch as it is....you simply need to work on closing as you say, so focus on that specifically.

when you say your closing is not up to scratch, could you elaborate? (give an example)...do you get rejected on closing? what sort of closing? or do you not even get a chance to attempt to close etc.[/quote]

Its just been after watching the footage for the 21convention and mainly DJ Fuji talks about you are not learning if you are comfortable. Im not feeling uncomfortable and there for looking for different things to try. Im far off being perfect. I would say my problems are with things like last minute resistance i.e i dont build enough comfort and things like flakey numbers but im getting more and more info on this after searching. I would possibly even say i have problems after the first few dates. Any advice welcome whether nice or not.

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[quote="Impact]Sometimes we have to let go of a great part of us, so we can take a even greater part away.

Id start by dropping the rating system, and trying to see women for what they are.
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Rite buddy i see exactly what you mean im putting it on a pedestal when it comes to more vivacious and beautiful women. Would you say its just a case of adding more approaches and getting through this lull to come out stronger? I cant remember what its refered to but ive heard other PUAs mention it. Its totaly normal then yea?

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I'd say, talk to an HB9 as if you're qualifying her.

When I talk to 10s, I treat them just as bad as I treat HB 7s or HB6s because I know they're good looking but do they have anything to offer mentally?

Look at ANY girl you're picking up as no outcome.

Don't EXPECT yourself to get her, always treat the situation as if you're just there to have fun, kino, and MAYBE get with her. (your mission should be FOR SURE to get with her, but you shouldn't project that in any way.)

Just be that fun guy, treat her like she's your little sister, and if she says anything don't let it affect you.

If your little sister said "Oh those shoes are ugly" you wouldn't care.

Same with ANY girl.

Man, think about it this way, if a girl is pretty, she must be dumb, and vice versa.

So that will always have you thinking you're above her, aka not so nervous.

I'm not nervous around hot girls, because I always look as if there is something wrong with them, lowering their value to me, and setting me in the mood to do stuff I normally wouldn't.

Kind of like think everyone is in their underwear thing.
I get what your saying mate. Its like Mystery said "The focus should be on the system not the chain of events" (Or something along those lines) So what your saying is that it is the process that i should focus on and not the reward?
Where as with lower value sets i find it easyer as ive already achieved this. I have little expectations or worrys and therefor dont try to force an outcome.

Thanks for all the comments guys

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I've got a challenge for you. Over the next week, make 5 new female friends who are actually interesting as well as attractive. Then, when you go out sarging, take them along with your wing(s) into clubs. They can act as social proof and pivots for you, to open sets of HB9s with far more ease.


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I've got a challenge for you. Over the next week, make 5 new female friends who are actually interesting as well as attractive. Then, when you go out sarging, take them along with your wing(s) into clubs. They can act as social proof and pivots for you, to open sets of HB9s with far more ease.
Also tell them you're amazing with ladies.

And have them as pivots, and when other girls approach you they'll be like "WOW YOU'RE AMAZING" knowing the only reason they do approach you is because of them.

Hah, fun thing to do.

I fuck my pivots some times.

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Also tell them you're amazing with ladies.
you shouldnt have to tell them this. if you are amazing with ladies they will see this sooner or later through your actions.


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Perfect guys i will give this a shot. Its totaly out my comfort zone as ive never used a group of women ive just met as pivot as such. I am counting my week starting saturday i.e tomorrow (As i am working and have university all day today) Ill keep the post going and let you know how i get on.

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Also tell them you're amazing with ladies.
you shouldnt have to tell them this. if you are amazing with ladies they will see this sooner or later through your actions.
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Rite so Saturday, yesterday was the first day of finding my five pivots. And im at one so far. She is Austrailian and id put her at a 7. (Remember there is no ten on a Saint rating scale) She is definatly interested and is up for going out at some point this week. She is already aware there will be other women there, which she thinks are just all friends.

Has anyone got, or know of, any interesting group dynamics e-books or articles?

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Also tell them you're amazing with ladies.
you shouldnt have to tell them this. if you are amazing with ladies they will see this sooner or later through your actions.
A rich guy doesn't have to tell he's rich.
Precisely.


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