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Race and culture are not the same. RACE doesn't matter. Culture does play a role. If the girl and her parents are from a liberal western culture, then culture would dictate that race doesn't matter. However, if the girl is from Asia, the older generations won't allow her to marry outside of her race. One old chinese lady told me that I can have a chinese gf but not a chinese wife.
I am an Asian guy living in Australia and Asian chicks make up most of my game. I totally agree with what SharinganUser said in how its the culture which influences how she is going to react to you, but the fundamentals of the game i believe are universal to all women, regardless of culture. I find a big part of gaming asian women is showing you are different from the other guys. This forces her to reconsider the way she reacts to your approaches making her treat you differently. One question i want to ask regarding gaming women of any background of culture. If you break down the social conditioning set up by their upbringing and culture, do all women become the same?

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I'd say from my experience in the US, Australia, Europe and Canada, there are slight cultural differences EVERYWHERE with Asian girls. The reason is the culture and the demure roles they cast women in.

You need to lower the energy level with Asian girls for sure. They rarely do the bouncy club girl thing, so you want to come in very chill.

They seem to be a little more cliquish as a whole, again based on the culture.

They don't respond well to public displays of affection, so you want to tone down the touching and aggressiveness until you get somewhere private.

I'm not really big on Asian girls but I have a bunch of friends who are. I think El Topo or Doc Holliday may have even written something about this.

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So lets say you want to approach a set of 5 Asian girls in a club, or maybe let it be somewhere during the day. Lets say your not in an Asian country like Europe or us or Australia. How would you game differently with this set from approach to close? I typically approach with a high energy level to get the vibe right before transitioning to low, where i ellict values with her, before i go in for a close. My method isn't all that efficient but what do you think of it anyway? Biggest challenge for me is getting her isolated so that i can get a k close rather then just a # close

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Im a chinese born in a western country but lived in hong kong for some years, let me tell you what i feel in regards to HONG KONG girls

asian girls FROM a chinese culture, hong kong for example, spends a lot of time listening to hong kong pop music. hong kong doesnt produce any rock or hard music, just emo, love, break up songs(same with movies) and they dont understand western culture as much as they think they do (10 out of 10 doesnt know what dude means, which is pretty fucking stupid when i showed them some clips from dude wheres my car)


oh, and for hong kong girls, their english sucks. so if you dont have a translator wing then it would probably suck for you (i winged for an italian pua, he f closed a hong kong girl first night coz i helped him translate and shit)

after reading what i just wrote.... it seems language barrier is the biggest problem for hong kong girls, anyway ta-ta off to sleep


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I have a friend who is very tall but mixed race (half black and half white) and he gets (or use to get) loads of Japanese, chinese and Asian women. Maybe its just the tall thing lol? He did said that when he approached them he just acted like he was shy and they fell for him.


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It depends on whether you're talking about a western-born asian or an eastern-born asian.

Western born are usually much more extroverted and daring, adopting a lot of the social traits seen in Western girls while the opposite is true for Eastern born. I mean, for you to be able to game girls in a different cultural background you need to understand that background first. In general, what I find is that the romantic aspect of the asian culture bears some striking resemblances to that of the Western culture, the difference lies in the little details and the intensity.

For example:

- Asian girls are a lot more dependent on their men financially and romantically (dudes court a lot more compared to the west which include things like paying for stuff and approaching etc. although this is changing fast as a result of the increasing Western influence) and as a result they are naturally more reserved & less emotionally secured -> what this may mean is that although they do find Alpha Males attractive (well, duh, evolutionary theory didn't just happen in the West now did it?) which is a similar trait to Western girls, it would probably not be advisable to neg them so much or use intensively negative . They already have such a low level of self-perceived value to start with, DLV on them will just make them crumble and view you as an weirdo asshole. However, like I said, this is quickly changing as the Asian female population is increasingly gettin more and more respect and social status from their male counterpart.

- Asian girls are also attracted to the typical cliche male stereotypes such as the Bad Boy, The Artist, The Nurturer but one MAJOR stereo type that is favored the most out of all is the Sensitive Pretty Boy. Now I don't know why the fuck they love a pretty face so much (notice i use the word "pretty", not "handsome") - perhaps it has something to do with the genetic skull-structure of Asian men not being as masculine & strong as those belonging to other races as well as the inherent lack of hair which is also another masculine trait - but they do, and wayyyy more than a masculine face which is a dominant feature of an alpha male. So if you are blessed with a "pretty" face you'd fare better than someone with a "masculine" face based on looks alone. A rough example would be Gambler vs Sinn.

- Playin hard to get works very well w/ asian girls, esp in pair with the Bad Boy act. I believe this has a lot to do with the fact that they're so used to being heavily courted (as mentioned above) that a change of pace is refreshingly welcome. If there's 1 attraction advice that is applicable globally it is this: be UNIQUE.

- Extreme genuineness works very well as well. As previously stated, courtship is predominantly the male's responsibility still in Asia (as far as I'm concerned anyway) and as a result genuine expression of interest which may include expression of extreme neediness and AFC-like traits will usually work. I have friends over there who were rejected by their targets at first but clung on and went the extra mile and finally was "accepted". Initially I thought maybe they just got sick of having a stalker and gave in? (lol) However it's recently come to me that they must have interpreted the courter's insistence and effort even after being turned a way as a token of genuine interest and traits of a quality nurturer who will stick around.

- Being romantic is also hugely favored by Asian girls. Things such as being able to play an instrument (soft-sounding instruments such as piano, acoustic guitar etc. NOT electric guitar or drum), being able to sing, being able to write beautifully and emotionally, being all fucking cutesy and shit etc. Romantic is also a desirable trait for Western girls, however, it is not what it used to be and I'm sure we can all agree with that? Being a romantic has become such a rarity that it's portrayed as something of a novelty in movies such as The Notebook in the Western society. I suppose you can blame technological advancements & the increasing demand on people to focus more of their time on work & socializing than courtship. How many times have you heard the over-recycled phrase of "I just don't have time to date!"?

Anyway those were just some points that just stuck out at me reading this thread. I hope it helped clear up confusion for some people. Obviously this is in no way an exhaustive list or anything even close, fuck me I ain't even sure if it's half correct lol. But make it of what you will, I just hope that it may be of some help for someone who's completely ignorant on the psych of Asian females.

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A woman is a woman. It doesn't matter what race she is... I dated one for 8 months and I'm not Asian nor white tall dude, like you said, (god blessed them). To me they are the best Lovers. I love the fact that they are petite passionate and faithful, but they xpect marriage right away and on my experience she was extremely Jealous but perhaps that is applied to all girls in general.
Genetically yes of course. However women who differ socially and culturally are extremely different. i have heard from several puas that japanese girls hate negs - takes there honour or something. if sociallt the asian girl is american or w/e then fine its the same. however if she has just come over from another culture, be very careful with things such as negs indeed. you dont want to insult. different girls take on different aspects of a guy to create attraction - i am speaking socially of course.
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It depends on whether you're talking about a western-born asian or an eastern-born asian.

Western born are usually much more extroverted and daring, adopting a lot of the social traits seen in Western girls while the opposite is true for Eastern born. I mean, for you to be able to game girls in a different cultural background you need to understand that background first. In general, what I find is that the romantic aspect of the asian culture bears some striking resemblances to that of the Western culture, the difference lies in the little details and the intensity.

For example:

- Asian girls are a lot more dependent on their men financially and romantically (dudes court a lot more compared to the west which include things like paying for stuff and approaching etc. although this is changing fast as a result of the increasing Western influence) and as a result they are naturally more reserved & less emotionally secured -> what this may mean is that although they do find Alpha Males attractive (well, duh, evolutionary theory didn't just happen in the West now did it?) which is a similar trait to Western girls, it would probably not be advisable to neg them so much or use intensively negative . They already have such a low level of self-perceived value to start with, DLV on them will just make them crumble and view you as an weirdo asshole. However, like I said, this is quickly changing as the Asian female population is increasingly gettin more and more respect and social status from their male counterpart.

- Asian girls are also attracted to the typical cliche male stereotypes such as the Bad Boy, The Artist, The Nurturer but one MAJOR stereo type that is favored the most out of all is the Sensitive Pretty Boy. Now I don't know why the fuck they love a pretty face so much (notice i use the word "pretty", not "handsome") - perhaps it has something to do with the genetic skull-structure of Asian men not being as masculine & strong as those belonging to other races as well as the inherent lack of hair which is also another masculine trait - but they do, and wayyyy more than a masculine face which is a dominant feature of an alpha male. So if you are blessed with a "pretty" face you'd fare better than someone with a "masculine" face based on looks alone. A rough example would be Gambler vs Sinn.

- Playin hard to get works very well w/ asian girls, esp in pair with the Bad Boy act. I believe this has a lot to do with the fact that they're so used to being heavily courted (as mentioned above) that a change of pace is refreshingly welcome. If there's 1 attraction advice that is applicable globally it is this: be UNIQUE.

- Extreme genuineness works very well as well. As previously stated, courtship is predominantly the male's responsibility still in Asia (as far as I'm concerned anyway) and as a result genuine expression of interest which may include expression of extreme neediness and AFC-like traits will usually work. I have friends over there who were rejected by their targets at first but clung on and went the extra mile and finally was "accepted". Initially I thought maybe they just got sick of having a stalker and gave in? (lol) However it's recently come to me that they must have interpreted the courter's insistence and effort even after being turned a way as a token of genuine interest and traits of a quality nurturer who will stick around.

- Being romantic is also hugely favored by Asian girls. Things such as being able to play an instrument (soft-sounding instruments such as piano, acoustic guitar etc. NOT electric guitar or drum), being able to sing, being able to write beautifully and emotionally, being all fucking cutesy and shit etc. Romantic is also a desirable trait for Western girls, however, it is not what it used to be and I'm sure we can all agree with that? Being a romantic has become such a rarity that it's portrayed as something of a novelty in movies such as The Notebook in the Western society. I suppose you can blame technological advancements & the increasing demand on people to focus more of their time on work & socializing than courtship. How many times have you heard the over-recycled phrase of "I just don't have time to date!"?

Anyway those were just some points that just stuck out at me reading this thread. I hope it helped clear up confusion for some people. Obviously this is in no way an exhaustive list or anything even close, fuck me I ain't even sure if it's half correct lol. But make it of what you will, I just hope that it may be of some help for someone who's completely ignorant on the psych of Asian females.

Peace the fk out & feedback pls

According the latest info. from my current target............she has americanized education in hers highschool in China................so will it really means she has certain westernalization in her personality?


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VERY DIFFERENT.

In Groups: Asian girls are extremely hard to approach in groups, especially in bars and nightclubs. First of all, most of the groups of asian girls in nightclubs and bars that you see, usually have come with a group of asian guys (boyfriends). These groups of asian guys are usually not a fun obstacle to deal with in the club, you can get your ass jumped real fast, without a verbal confrontation or even a warning. (happened to me twice) However, if you wish to procede, I would go with trying to get a dance from one in the group, this will usually mean that she is single. So you won't have to deal with anyone wanting to crush your skull with their timberlands. Outside of clubs and bars, they are easier to approach, where as in the club you will find asian women who are cocky and bitchy, any where else you will usually find them reserved and shy. Here, you would just want to intrigue them with your intelligence and wit. (Mindpower has always been something that eastern cultures have always cherished whether it is from the perspective of a man or woman).

Solo: Not nearly as hard as groups. Again, the key that I found is showing wit and intelligence to crack them out of their shy shells.

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It depends on whether you're talking about a western-born asian or an eastern-born asian.

Western born are usually much more extroverted and daring, adopting a lot of the social traits seen in Western girls while the opposite is true for Eastern born. I mean, for you to be able to game girls in a different cultural background you need to understand that background first. In general, what I find is that the romantic aspect of the asian culture bears some striking resemblances to that of the Western culture, the difference lies in the little details and the intensity.

For example:

- Asian girls are a lot more dependent on their men financially and romantically (dudes court a lot more compared to the west which include things like paying for stuff and approaching etc. although this is changing fast as a result of the increasing Western influence) and as a result they are naturally more reserved & less emotionally secured -> what this may mean is that although they do find Alpha Males attractive (well, duh, evolutionary theory didn't just happen in the West now did it?) which is a similar trait to Western girls, it would probably not be advisable to neg them so much or use intensively negative . They already have such a low level of self-perceived value to start with, DLV on them will just make them crumble and view you as an weirdo asshole. However, like I said, this is quickly changing as the Asian female population is increasingly gettin more and more respect and social status from their male counterpart.

- Asian girls are also attracted to the typical cliche male stereotypes such as the Bad Boy, The Artist, The Nurturer but one MAJOR stereo type that is favored the most out of all is the Sensitive Pretty Boy. Now I don't know why the fuck they love a pretty face so much (notice i use the word "pretty", not "handsome") - perhaps it has something to do with the genetic skull-structure of Asian men not being as masculine & strong as those belonging to other races as well as the inherent lack of hair which is also another masculine trait - but they do, and wayyyy more than a masculine face which is a dominant feature of an alpha male. So if you are blessed with a "pretty" face you'd fare better than someone with a "masculine" face based on looks alone. A rough example would be Gambler vs Sinn.

- Playin hard to get works very well w/ asian girls, esp in pair with the Bad Boy act. I believe this has a lot to do with the fact that they're so used to being heavily courted (as mentioned above) that a change of pace is refreshingly welcome. If there's 1 attraction advice that is applicable globally it is this: be UNIQUE.

- Extreme genuineness works very well as well. As previously stated, courtship is predominantly the male's responsibility still in Asia (as far as I'm concerned anyway) and as a result genuine expression of interest which may include expression of extreme neediness and AFC-like traits will usually work. I have friends over there who were rejected by their targets at first but clung on and went the extra mile and finally was "accepted". Initially I thought maybe they just got sick of having a stalker and gave in? (lol) However it's recently come to me that they must have interpreted the courter's insistence and effort even after being turned a way as a token of genuine interest and traits of a quality nurturer who will stick around.

- Being romantic is also hugely favored by Asian girls. Things such as being able to play an instrument (soft-sounding instruments such as piano, acoustic guitar etc. NOT electric guitar or drum), being able to sing, being able to write beautifully and emotionally, being all fucking cutesy and shit etc. Romantic is also a desirable trait for Western girls, however, it is not what it used to be and I'm sure we can all agree with that? Being a romantic has become such a rarity that it's portrayed as something of a novelty in movies such as The Notebook in the Western society. I suppose you can blame technological advancements & the increasing demand on people to focus more of their time on work & socializing than courtship. How many times have you heard the over-recycled phrase of "I just don't have time to date!"?

Anyway those were just some points that just stuck out at me reading this thread. I hope it helped clear up confusion for some people. Obviously this is in no way an exhaustive list or anything even close, fuck me I ain't even sure if it's half correct lol. But make it of what you will, I just hope that it may be of some help for someone who's completely ignorant on the psych of Asian females.

Peace the fk out & feedback pls
iStyle pretty well covered it perfectly. This coming from a rather white-washed Chinese guy living in Hong Kong...

In fact this topic is one of the main reasons why I am on this forum, as I don't seem to be able to find any resources that can explain such differences in attraction patterns that I see between white-washed Asian girls VS local born-and-bred-in-asia type Asian girls.

Someone said that Asian girls don't enjoy negs - I would say not entirely true. The things to consider is whether neg is within relevant cultural context, and also the intensity and depth of the neg. I would say the cultural difference accounts for the shift in where their comfort zone is... My method is to just take it easy, gain her trust and make her comfortable. Then neg her and tease her.

Another thing of note, is that in Asian cultures (well at least I can speak for Chinese) there is no such thing as sarcasm. You say something out to be sarcastic, and people will trust what you say for face value...


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before i get further into this topic i just wanted to say

Mjay.. i'll be in Hong Kong oct 29th 2009. maybe you could show me around a bit i'm an "ABC" Been there several times buts its been a while ,No Wanchai pls lol

M- where in Lbc do you live? i grew up in long beach and went to Long beach Wilson years ago!

break- i currently live in Japan also .We need to party it up and avoid Roppo! lol i'm tired of that place. If you frequent Shibuya and a place called "pure" or Atoms you might have seen me there" hit me up

As for Asian girls The Cultral diffrences makes it the factor but now a days its start to subdue. Hence alot of interracial dating. Its more widely accept now adays amoung asian people . Back in my younger days. You barely see any interracial dating amoungs asian women. Thats speaking for the more Western asian girls. Here in Japan..Thats a whole other story. Like Break mention before. We being from a Western decent are far to aggressive and more open about things ( which can help and hurt you at the same time) From my experiance asian girls tend to Look at the Social aspect of it all basicly "what can get her to places, What can make her look good amoungs other asian girls. Also how they where rasied. Some grew up in the typical sheltered life where you had to go to a good school, marry a sucessful man, ect ect. can also effect the way the girl acts. the more "americanized girl" tend to me more open and free about that. I use to roommate with 3 beautiful asian girls (2 where upcoming models and 1 was a hot Doc in traning who all went to UCLA) and the 2 models had a sheltered lifestyle when they where young hence when they got away from home they became the party type models who most often in the clubs you see wilding it out but soo bitchy...the 2 girl were as sweet as you can get just that...well you have to get to know them. then you get the other side... the very gulliable and naive asian girl.
Now here in Japan... the best bet is to make friend with someone in the group(if there in a group) Or just know the language. like break said.. they dont shave :lol: In your packout be sure to bring a mach 3 razor or a heavy duty beard trimmer and your own condoms.... these japanese "normal size condoms" are way to small( funny coming from an asian guy) but i have a few japanese homegirls that can translate for me but since i been living here i understand most of the conversation which really helps!. If you can communicate with them your less threatening to them. i wouldnt say its easier or harder i just say its a diffrent type of game. For example you have a video game... the same game but in diffrent languages. Of course you think the english version is easyier but.. its the same game.. just diffrent Languages( or culture) if you think of it in that prosective you wont have a problem. Alot of good points in this thread

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before i get further into this topic i just wanted to say

Mjay.. i'll be in Hong Kong oct 29th 2009. maybe you could show me around a bit i'm an "ABC" Been there several times buts its been a while ,No Wanchai pls lol

M- where in Lbc do you live? i grew up in long beach and went to Long beach Wilson years ago!

break- i currently live in Japan also .We need to party it up and avoid Roppo! lol i'm tired of that place. If you frequent Shibuya and a place called "pure" or Atoms you might have seen me there" hit me up

As for Asian girls The Cultral diffrences makes it the factor but now a days its start to subdue. Hence alot of interracial dating. Its more widely accept now adays amoung asian people . Back in my younger days. You barely see any interracial dating amoungs asian women. Thats speaking for the more Western asian girls. Here in Japan..Thats a whole other story. Like Break mention before. We being from a Western decent are far to aggressive and more open about things ( which can help and hurt you at the same time) From my experiance asian girls tend to Look at the Social aspect of it all basicly "what can get her to places, What can make her look good amoungs other asian girls. Also how they where rasied. Some grew up in the typical sheltered life where you had to go to a good school, marry a sucessful man, ect ect. can also effect the way the girl acts. the more "americanized girl" tend to me more open and free about that. I use to roommate with 3 beautiful asian girls (2 where upcoming models and 1 was a hot Doc in traning who all went to UCLA) and the 2 models had a sheltered lifestyle when they where young hence when they got away from home they became the party type models who most often in the clubs you see wilding it out but soo bitchy...the 2 girl were as sweet as you can get just that...well you have to get to know them. then you get the other side... the very gulliable and naive asian girl.
Now here in Japan... the best bet is to make friend with someone in the group(if there in a group) Or just know the language. like break said.. they dont shave :lol: In your packout be sure to bring a mach 3 razor or a heavy duty beard trimmer and your own condoms.... these japanese "normal size condoms" are way to small( funny coming from an asian guy) but i have a few japanese homegirls that can translate for me but since i been living here i understand most of the conversation which really helps!. If you can communicate with them your less threatening to them. i wouldnt say its easier or harder i just say its a diffrent type of game. For example you have a video game... the same game but in diffrent languages. Of course you think the english version is easyier but.. its the same game.. just diffrent Languages( or culture) if you think of it in that prosective you wont have a problem. Alot of good points in this thread
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Many thoughts here . . . but I just want you kids to remember that ASIA is an entire continent. It's a continent that's bordered by oceans and mountains and wars galore for generations. Sure, the World is becoming smaller but to generalize Asia into one little culture is just . . . well, uneducated. What the hell would you tell a guy who told you, "Ohhhh . . . so you are American? I know a Russian guy! You are just alike, same culture! Both white man! Good for you!"

I can tell you from experience that a certain province in Korea has a completely different dating culture from another province that is only an hour drive away . . .

Guys, travel and meet some people. . . and read a few books once in a while . . .


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Yes. They are raised culturally different. The way to game them depends on how they were raised, just like any other girl.

I own with South-Eastern asian girls.

And kasabi, I think he was referring to oriental asians. They are all culturally similar (China, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam ect.) with a strong influence from confucian and buddhist principles integrated into their culture.

The rest of asia i couldnt give a fuck about. Theyre ugly.

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And kasabi, I think he was referring to oriental asians. They are all culturally similar (China, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam ect.) with a strong influence from confucian and buddhist principles integrated into their culture.
Surely you jest. The point of my bringing up two provinces within Korea is to show the differences that a little 100 ft. vertical mountain can make.

Vietnam and Japan? Come on . . .

This is like paring the culture of Kentucky with that of Paris.


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