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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:44 am 
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What can you do when you're 40, desperate, and have no idea what to do?


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40 is perfectly fine man.

I've seen people who pickup women at parks, I'm talking fucking hot 28 year olds who were 50+. Age means absolutely nothing to women, and if you can trust me on that, then you have just stepped forward in the right direction.

The first step for you now is to reinvent yourself, the way you dress, walk, talk, your body language! Thats your first step. Your second step is to evaluate your psychology and look into positive thinking.

Your third step and final step is to go out and meet people, just have fun! grab a camera and go into the city park talk to people, interact, and take responsibility of your life immediately.

I don't post often, but I wanted to give you the heads up!

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As a fellow "40-something" I sympathise with your plight.

I couple of suggestions I would make are:

* online dating - dating sites are generally heaving with 35-45 Y/O women, admittedly a lot of them are jaded average looking divorcees but they are good fodder for game practice and drumming up some sex. General tip - very few women will ever admit to being open to "just sex" on a dating site, the usual anti-slut defence and whatever kicking in, but that often changes once you meet for real especially if you can run some reasonable game on them.

My usual gambit ... lets call it the "sapphire gambit" for the sake of some blatent self-aggrandisement :-) ... is the make all the right noises about "wanting a meaningful relationship", meet them maybe once or twice running some heavy seduction right up to the point of sex, even perhaps to the point of having overcome their LMR, then ... LEAVE or FREEZE OUT without closing or ask them to leave if its your place). The next day (to give them a night to ponder what happened) say you though you were ready for a serious relationship but you now realise your not and you didn't want to go the whole way because you didn't want to take advantage of them. IME 2 out of 3 will then offer to "just have some fun for while". There is little that is more attractive to a woman than a man prepared to walk away from sex, even if it was a bluff ... ;-).

* concentrate on inner game stuff, unlike most the school boys on here (for whom game is just the latest dungeons and dragons style rules/level fest), we tend to have actual life experience and achievements to build on :-). Inner game, being alpha, body language etc is usually a relatively quick win for us.

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I dunno. I came across all this pu stuff over 3 1/2 years ago, took a bootcamp amongst other things but really felt like I just wasn't cut out to be able to improve in this area of my life.

I just don't think I have the charisma, humour and everything else let alone the confidence to be able to give myself a chance with women.

It seems like the method behind it all is to just consistently go out and approach women antil the fear and anxiety goes away, but I just really find this impossible to believe and am concerned that in the long run this would have a negative as opposed to a possitive effect.

It just gets more frustrating and harder to grasp as time goes on.
Maybe it's deep rooted in some kind of social phobia but it really boils down to not feeling worthy, and I think at my age this could be a massive problem that may not be fixable.

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I hate how negative this sounds when reading it back to my self, though I try hard to be positive as much as possible it's difficult to put it any other way when you feel you're in a rut.


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In addition, I would love to be in a situation where the lack of women / sex in my life was not such a big deal and that I drew my happiness and satisfaction from other avenues.

The thing is, I love hot, sexy women just like any other healthy heterosexual male and so it's only right that I feel like shit because I'm deprived of something that I love an yearn for.


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In addition, I would love to be in a situation where the lack of women / sex in my life was not such a big deal and that I drew my happiness and satisfaction from other avenues.

The thing is, I love hot, sexy women just like any other healthy heterosexual male and so it's only right that I feel like shit because I'm deprived of something that I love an yearn for.
you really think being 40 makes or breaks your game? I'm 39 years old and wasting a little time while I get ready for my date with a 29yo hb8. Not more then an hour ago I sarged a young girl working the sonics drive thru. I doubt she was a day over 19.

Sorry but pua has change my whole look on life. I no long see a goal I can't meet because of it.

Do you really think being shot down by 50 women is going to be nearly as bad as seeing 50 women you wish you had talked to? Do you really belive we all walk around picking up any woman we want? There isn't a guy on this forum no matter how good he is that hasn't been shot down. It's part of the game. It happens.

Well I have to finish getting ready. Chin up man and don't give up.


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Ignoring the comment about us adolescent's treating the game as a DnD sorta thing(really witty though lol)

It sounds to me like you need some work on your inner game broski. Get some of Hypnotica's stuff, trust me its going to help you.IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW OLD YOU ARE, IT ALL DEPENDS ON YOU, MY COUSIN HAS A UNCLE WHOS LIKE 43 AND HE PICKS UP WOMEN LIKE NOTHING, I believe women think theres something really attractive about a mature man that knows what he wants. You have to take charge, and trust me when your life gets filled with chicks left and right who are attracted you, and knowing that that part of your life is good, you can focus on so many other things. First things first though, get out there meet people, work on your confidence bro.


PU Has changed my life, I don't approach women very often though cuz what I really wanted was to be good socially, and the rest would take care of itself, which it has. It's changed my confidence completely, I mean the other day there was this stuck up hb10 in the mall , she was at least somewhere in her 20's and she walked by EXTRA slow, i told her "Walk faster please, no ones looking at you!!!" - 20 minutes into the thing I managed to get an e-mail(e-mails work better then asking for phone numbers) Thought i don't plan on contacting her because there this other girl im working on. Regardless though you think if ME which im 18, and YOU being 40 would have changed the outcome? You probably couldv'e closed a whole lot faster. BELIEVE ME, age has nothing to do with it.


And if that still doesn't convince then im going to tel you the way my mentor told me, STOP BEING A PUSSY, SUCK IT UP, AND GET OUT THERE, WHATS THE WORST THAT CAN HAPPEN? Don't spend the rest of your life asking "What if", you dont want that. Please Please Please, get out there man, the worlds your play ground. - Redkid.

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fingers crossed. If there is no fire there... I cant help him, no one can.. Its like the scene from rocky when hes going to rematch mr T.. he dosn't have that fire.. the eye of the tiger..

Thats what i do to my students, i rile them up, piss them off, make them angry, then make them driven and get on the ball.. Without that act... *shakes head*.. its impossible! Reasoning is so weak.. people go "oh cool... that pickup stuff.." and ignore it.
I encounted pick up with i was lin like 7th 8th grade? I nevrer paid attention to it though, then my mentor/best friend send me David D.'s stuff when i was beinga pussy about failing socially and with girls. If it wasn't for this stuff, I'd still be locked up in my room hating the world...its not a good place to be. And it's true , if you channel your anger, you can focus it into something good.- Redkid

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A 40 year old man in America is screwed.
No, no . . . a 40 year old YOU in America is screwed. Which is why you left.

To the OP,

The funny thing is . . .

It's the typical mindset of a mature 40 year old that tends to be quite attractive to girls of any culture. At this point, a man has had some affairs, relationships, and one night stands. He's professional and he's met and dealt with many different people from all walks of life. He doesn't go crazy over little disputes with "little girls". He sees humor in all things. And while an 18 year old might take a "negative verbal message" personally and hastily reply with an playground insult, a 40 year old man knows that little kids tend to act like, well . . . little kids. So he smiles at it . . . and chooses language/behavior to take charge of the situation so that everything in the social set progresses positively.

Go to any playground and just hang out. You'll see plenty little kids telling their parents, "I hate you! I'm so mad at you! You're ruining my life, etc . . ." Well adjusted parents know that this is just a short emotional burst so while they don't simply take the bullshit, they take charge and manage the situation LIKE AN ADULT. Meanwhile, other children and immature parents(those who really have NO BUSINESS being parents) will just stand there and toss insults back and forth. Nobody leaves happy. Berated kids will continue their emotional diarrhea and their counterparts will continue to take things personally and continue to stimulate bad behavior.

Yeah, you can just leave the show. . . or you can manage it to your own benefit. The tools to manage the show are all here. . . and as a 40 year old, I'd think you have a leg up on younger kids in terms of utilizing those tools. I doubt most posters here have any clue to why certain routines work but it all amounts to effectively managing social situations. If you can calmly communicate with a waitress to correct an order without pissing her off to spit on your food, you can do this. If you can ask your boss for a raise by offering demonstrable benefits you've added to the company, you can do this. If you can laugh off your 5 year old niece's tantrum, you can do this.

Many younger men simply don't have the mental stability, experience, nor the maturity to manage their own emotions through social situations without clowning around, insulting others, or simply giving up. This is why they mostly need to rely on rehearsed cliche's. In my mind, most of the buzzwords, acronyms and "routines" in our game is an attempt to elevate a kid's visible behavior to that of a well adjusted 40 year old. Know what you want. Know who can give it to you. Assess the situation, and manage your way through. And it's this ability that makes you attractive to women.

You're only missing a tiny piece of the puzzle. You probably already have a "gut-feeling" that interacting with women in terms of sex and relationships is really no different than interacting with your boss or the waitress at a breakfast joint. You are right. It's NOT DIFFERENT AT ALL. One writes you a paycheck, the other gives you pancakes, and women(in the scope of our discussion) offers you sex and companionship. The specific language might be different but the strategy to gain any of these things from various people are nearly the same.

Don't dumb yourself down to thinking you need to be 20. All those kids are rehearsing routines in an attempt to appear more mature than they are. You don't need to rehearse. You're already mature. Just be your well adjusted 40 year old self and corral those girls like you'd line up a bunch of your rowdy niece's friends in the ice cream store for their treats. (They want their ice cream. They want to line up. But they NEED you to give them direction)

Accept this truth and accept your role. . . and go get em'.


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I don't have the experience of your average 40 year old and in fact I have less experience than your average 21 year old.

However, I do have a level of maturity that you would expect from a 40 yar old but it doesn't benefit me in social situations.

A younger girl who would expect me to be able to teach her a thing or two would be severely disappointed.

I went to see my boss the other morning to claim some expenses for my glasses which were broken at work, and I still had that feeling in my stomach that I had as a child when being sent to the headmaster's office at school.

The inferiority I feel with bosses and teachers is the same inferiority I feel with attractive women, though I don't show it because I always put up a thick, strong wall to protect it.


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You've got some major psychological damage. I could tell from the moment I send that emotional attack to get you to react to something.

You need to try to find another job, do some work that fulfills your inner soul, you really have to look at getting some positive psychology videos or books ASAP! You have to also get some products that deal with being a man, i recall david deangelo has a phenomenal series on just that.

Also get lance masons body language! The fastest thing to change is your stance, and the subconscious will in turn take the shape of a confident man and you may start to feel better instantly.. That will give you at least a tad more control over yourself.

Keep your head high, I've delt with students just like you, I swear it, if not even in worser situations. The most important thing is the initial spark, without it, no one in this entire world can do anything for you.

If your pressed down on a daily basis by your boss, or by others around you, GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE NOW!, because it will be very difficult for you to succeed or even get enough control from your life to move in the right direction. If i were your coach id try to prie emotions out of you, anger is the easiest and can open the door to everything.

You should outright get angry about your situation, jealous, pissed off, sore, mad, annoyed and that, should lead you to self improvement. Right now your looking for someone to reach out and pull you out of your misery, well this is your wake up call.. Your 40, your not old, but your not young, somewhere in the exact middle! you can still make things happen for your life within 6 months.

Set dead lines, get the programs i talked about. Try something wildly different to throw your mind off, (acting classes, yoga) and most importantly, don't listen to anything the voice inside of you says! as this very same voice and feeling has lead you to the situation your in now! Stop taking it seriously or even caring.

Clean your room, throw out old stuff, physically start doing things, get in a habit of moving.. go out and approach women asap,even if its asking them for directions, approach 10 a day, and get them to like you! figure out how to do it naturally!

Write down on a piece of paper what you want to achieve and Id like to see some hunger from your eyes, watch Rocky III! that usually digs up emotions in people, great movie to get things rolling.

Go to the gym or if you can't take that big step get some weights and start lifting at home twice a week, that will give you even more control as your body will begin to feel more alive. Get really good sleep to, every night try to go to sleep no later then 10:30! It will be hard, but this journey is not easy, and you better get motivated fast or the next 10 years of your life will be over in no time and you will find yourself in a very difficult spot.

Start now, movie linked below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LogJGHwqE1c

If your having more difficulties pm me, or let me know on here, but you have to be willing to work with me to get the life you want. And you have to be willing to go forward despite your mind trying to pull you back and limit you.

Let me know


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