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people who say looks don't matter are morons

nowadays, looks are about 20 - 50% of the game to most women.

Hell, to give you an example, earlier this year, I went from 20% Body fat percentage (which looks ok on me cause I have a ton of muscle) to 8% Body fat (where I have six pack and a chiseled face)

I went from receiving very little female attention to now being greeted extremely warmly by every woman I talk to. I mean its F*cking night and day.
So true.

I went from being 22 body fat percentage then to 6.4% where I had amazing abs/ face everything and the SAME girls who were ignoring me/ treating me like shit were hitting on me and saying "wow you changed"

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I got with all of them btw ;)

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Those lecturing gurus would have no audience if the flier read, "Pick Up Techniques for the Hottest Girls! Come in today! By the way, it will only work if you are good looking."

OF COURSE they try to sell their crap to a large audience. OF COURSE, they exaggerate. Here's the truth: Your looks don't matter. . . (as much as looks do for women)

Don't you have any female friends? 90% of the time when they go out, they're usually pointing out other beautiful women. In the words of one of my female friends, "Guys all look the same. They look like boxes. They have the same hair, and wear pants and a shirt. . . . " Of course this same girl will see that ONE guy in a bar and go, "Oh my God I'm going to orgasm." . . . but that's ONE guy in the bar.

Here's where "looks" really come into play for a woman. Whereas his DICK drives the man, the woman is more concerned with her social surroundings. when a guy springs a boner while staring at a girl, he zones in and just about everything else fades away. After he fucks her, he can just tell his buddies, "Ha ha ha, beer goggles!" And everybody just laughs.

On the other hand, a woman needs approval from the her surroundings. She doesn't want to look like a slut. She doesn't want to look desperate and she doesn't want to seem cheap. So if she does walk out of that bar with a guy, she's not only thinking with her own sexual drives and her emotions but she's thinking, "Are my friends watching? Is that guy who I really like watching? What will they think of this?" (Of course unless she is totally zonked with either alcohol or you've overwhelmed her senses) And of course the older a girl becomes, that sorority sister act becomes less and less important.

And this is why we "game". Lowering those fears are part of the game. Winning over HER social circle is part of the game. Isolating her from that crap is part of the game. Attracting her enough so that none of the above is a factor is part of the game.

What you described to support your "looks matter" case is a very one dimensional game. You're gaming a girl as if she has any decision at all. She doesn't. She doesn't frown at you because SHE thinks that you are ugly or weird. She frowns at you because based on your TOTAL presentation, the frown keeps her perceived social position in that particular environment intact. She has no choice in the matter. Don't complain about it. Work with it.


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Look at the best pickup artists - they are all reasonably good-looking fellows.
what crap.

thats your perception cos thats what youre looking for. transform yourself internally and you will be surpised at the way the world see's you. some of the ugliest f*ckers in the world have the hottest women as they have other qualities. status, confidence, what ever. Its been said in this thread before....looks will only get so far...maybe a first date and thats about it. I have friends which are so-called models and and they USELESS with women....the less attractive guys which have their inner game sorted...well the women lap them up!

remember women go for strength,confidence,status (among many others) over looks any day. alot of girls i know dont even like pretty boys...they want someone that looks and acts masculine...and you dont have to be good looking to fit that match. If yo have a d*ck, you can be masculine.

women are the ones that rely almost solely on looks for initial attraction from us guys, we're lucky in that sense as we can make ourselves more attractive by using psychology and transformation.


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Looking good will only help in itself on some girls, not the majority. Believe it or not but some girls actually don't care that much how you look.
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as long as you're stylish and well-groomed, how handsome your face is does not matter.
true story, about a year ago when i was super afc, i used to rely on my looks to get girls. and i think i'm god's gift to women, in my opinion. but my game was lacking.
there was this one guy who was fat, ugly, didn't do well in school, not even fresh clothes. he had the biggest crush on my girlfriend. he wasn't considered one of the cool guys. but guess what, my hb9 girlfriend broke up with me for the dude.
the guy had charisma, confidence, and was comfortable with who he was. it all comes down to inner game. this dude's inner game told him that he could have any girl he wanted. and at the end of the day, the pretty boy was left in the dust. this dude really did have more game than me. the girl herself even admitted that she doesn't care about his looks, that looks aren't what matter and that she loves him for way more than that. so when people say that being good looking matters i have first-hand experience that looks don't matter. i learned a HUGE lesson and i had an epiphany. that's why working on inner game and self-improvement is your best tool.
the hot girl dumped the pretty boy for the guy with more confidence and game. end of story.
Are you sure he didn't just have a bigger pecker than you?

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people who say looks don't matter are morons

nowadays, looks are about 20 - 50% of the game to most women.

Hell, to give you an example, earlier this year, I went from 20% Body fat percentage (which looks ok on me cause I have a ton of muscle) to 8% Body fat (where I have six pack and a chiseled face)

I went from receiving very little female attention to now being greeted extremely warmly by every woman I talk to. I mean its F*cking night and day.
So true.

I went from being 22 body fat percentage then to 6.4% where I had amazing abs/ face everything and the SAME girls who were ignoring me/ treating me like shit were hitting on me and saying "wow you changed"

Etc

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

I got with all of them btw ;)
You are so full of shit.

Oh hey. What are you gonna do? Make more fake accounts, post "wtf im laggin dude" to give me more negative points, and to boost your own reputation? Go for it dude, you rock!

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OK, so what's the conclusion? Anyone for reinventing the wheel?


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I went from being 22 body fat percentage then to 6.4% where I had amazing abs/ face everything and the SAME girls who were ignoring me/ treating me like shit were hitting on me and saying "wow you changed
dude youre probably talking out of your ass again but for what its worth, if youre not...it may not necessarily have been the LOOK of your new AWESOME body, but rather the fact that they could see you were starting to take more care of yourself, which in itself is attractive to women.


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What is the reputation thing for anyway? I don't get the point in it... :lol: :P


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What is the reputation thing for anyway? I don't get the point in it... :lol: :P
People can give you points if they like what you say and up your reputation.

People can also give you negative points (which are obviously more noticed) if they dont like what you say, and what you say is wrong. Whatever.

Its a silly system really. But. When people see me with negative value. I might not be taken seriously.

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So basically something of no use in the real world whatsoever. :P :lol:

Seriously though is cool to know that I seem to at least vaguely know what I'm on about in order to help my inner game, or at least people think I know what I'm on about. Haha.


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Those lecturing gurus would have no audience if the flier read, "Pick Up Techniques for the Hottest Girls! Come in today! By the way, it will only work if you are good looking."

OF COURSE they try to sell their crap to a large audience. OF COURSE, they exaggerate. Here's the truth: Your looks don't matter. . . (as much as looks do for women)

Don't you have any female friends? 90% of the time when they go out, they're usually pointing out other beautiful women. In the words of one of my female friends, "Guys all look the same. They look like boxes. They have the same hair, and wear pants and a shirt. . . . " Of course this same girl will see that ONE guy in a bar and go, "Oh my God I'm going to orgasm." . . . but that's ONE guy in the bar.

Here's where "looks" really come into play for a woman. Whereas his DICK drives the man, the woman is more concerned with her social surroundings. when a guy springs a boner while staring at a girl, he zones in and just about everything else fades away. After he fucks her, he can just tell his buddies, "Ha ha ha, beer goggles!" And everybody just laughs.

On the other hand, a woman needs approval from the her surroundings. She doesn't want to look like a slut. She doesn't want to look desperate and she doesn't want to seem cheap. So if she does walk out of that bar with a guy, she's not only thinking with her own sexual drives and her emotions but she's thinking, "Are my friends watching? Is that guy who I really like watching? What will they think of this?" (Of course unless she is totally zonked with either alcohol or you've overwhelmed her senses) And of course the older a girl becomes, that sorority sister act becomes less and less important.

And this is why we "game". Lowering those fears are part of the game. Winning over HER social circle is part of the game. Isolating her from that crap is part of the game. Attracting her enough so that none of the above is a factor is part of the game.

What you described to support your "looks matter" case is a very one dimensional game. You're gaming a girl as if she has any decision at all. She doesn't. She doesn't frown at you because SHE thinks that you are ugly or weird. She frowns at you because based on your TOTAL presentation, the frown keeps her perceived social position in that particular environment intact. She has no choice in the matter. Don't complain about it. Work with it.
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I honestly think the only difference between men and women is that men have to be attracted sexually first before they're attracted mentally, and women have to be attracted mentally first before they're attracted sexually

to me, a woman's personality is about 40 - 60% of the battle and the rest is looks. that's how most woman see men as well

the PUA community severely misrepresents this aspect (women's personality and men's appearance)

I, and many other men I know, are every bit as turned on by personality as looks

hell for that matter, I know men who don't really give a shit what their girlfriend looks like as long as she's nice


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people who say looks don't matter are morons

nowadays, looks are about 20 - 50% of the game to most women.

Hell, to give you an example, earlier this year, I went from 20% Body fat percentage (which looks ok on me cause I have a ton of muscle) to 8% Body fat (where I have six pack and a chiseled face)

I went from receiving very little female attention to now being greeted extremely warmly by every woman I talk to. I mean its F*cking night and day.
So true.

I went from being 22 body fat percentage then to 6.4% where I had amazing abs/ face everything and the SAME girls who were ignoring me/ treating me like shit were hitting on me and saying "wow you changed"

Etc

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

I got with all of them btw ;)
exactly

most PUA crap is made for losers, ugly dudes and socially awkward people

if you're naturally very good looking and confident, you can just be yourself and get all the hot women you could ever want


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imho this thread is going nowhere...

tnx, bye


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Are you sure he didn't just have a bigger pecker than you?
no one's has a bigger pecker than me :lol:

and in reality, whether that's true or not doesn't matter because if you have confidence in yourself and in your pu skills it will show and girls will notice. you can't change the shape of your face (unless your initials are MJ) or the "size of your pecker". you gotta work with what you have. eliminate the ego and be the best you can be.

Ghandi once said "a man is but the product of his thoughts - what he thinks he becomes"


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Are you sure he didn't just have a bigger pecker than you?
no one's has a bigger pecker than me :lol:

and in reality, whether that's true or not doesn't matter because if you have confidence in yourself and in your pu skills it will show and girls will notice. you can't change the shape of your face (unless your initials are MJ) or the "size of your pecker". you gotta work with what you have. eliminate the ego and be the best you can be.

Ghandi once said "a man is but the product of his thoughts - what he thinks he becomes"
doesn't change the fact that ugly/average looking guys have to do a whole sing and dance and do some sort of a ridiculous opener and good looking/muscular guys like me can go up to any girl and say "whatsup" and have her working for our approval

that's what the PUA community refuses to acknowledge. Looks is not just physical attraction for women, it's a huge sign of social value/status


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