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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 3:15 am 
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Three Pitfalls of Pickup
by Z. Ephraim Glass

Men get into pickup for a couple of key reasons. Typically, a man wants to improve his social skills, particularly among women, so that he can find a girlfriend and/or so that he can have sex more frequently. Anecdotal evidence suggests, however, that many men, despite having become skilled pickup artists, are not as happy as they originally intended to be. There are three important pitfalls that I would like to discuss. First is the Social Robot, who makes a routine of pickup artist behaviours, but fails to enjoy the fruit of his labour. Second is Aimless Guy, who wants to be good with women, but couldn't tell you why. Third is Mr. Picky who, because he feels like he can get any woman that he wants, is never satisfied with the women whom he has actually attracted. Avoiding these three traps may help you to be happier with the accomplishments that you achieve through pickup.

Social Robot
“I don't have time for women. I have to go sarging.”

Because Style used the term “Social Robot” in The Game, most pickup artists have seen it before. I define a social robot as somebody who has good habits for attracting and closing women, but who never follows through. The three key traits of a social robot are that he has misplaced priorities, an obsession with routine, and lacks critical perspective.

The social robot would claim that his priorities are just fine. “I want to meet women,” he'll tell you and it would be nominally true. The social robot meets lots of women. Unsaid, however, is that the social robot would like to meet women with whom to form a more lasting connection. Whether that connection takes the form of a long term, monoamourous relationship or a friendship with benefits is irrelevant. The social robot behaves as though sarging is more important to him than developing connections with the women that he has already met.

This is the result of an obsession with routine. Before developing the pickup artist routine, the social robot was probably a chump. He credits his social prowess to faithful observance of the habits that he's learned. Approach within 3 seconds, sarge on a regular basis, don't get one-itis. There is nothing wrong with the principles, but taken to an extreme, they become an obstacle to building more meaningful relationships with other people. Normally, one would recognize this and shift one's attitudes and behaviours to promote a better balance between meeting new people and growing the relationships with the people that one already knows.

The social robot, however, lacks perspective. He would claim, if confronted, that he wants to do more with the people in his circle, but he fails to recognize that excessive sarging is getting in the way. Without somebody pointing it out to him, he may not even realize this unmet desire until he needs a friend and finds that all he has left are acquaintances.

Aimless Guy
“I want to get good with women.”
“Why?”
“I need a reason?"


Aimless Guy wants to be good with women, but he really has no idea what that means. He can K-close, he can F-close, he goes on dates all the time. He's also the man most likely to come home depressed when a woman rejects him. For one reason or another, aimless guy has no measurable goals for himself. As a result, he ends up seeking validation in the action of the moment.

Aimless guy might have started with goals. In fact, most of the time, he got into pickup for the same reasons that most men do: to get a girlfriend or to get laid. Somewhere along the way, however, he lost track of the bigger picture. Instead of viewing pickup as a set of tools for accomplishing a goal, he began viewing the development of social skills as a goal unto itself. Pickup provides its artists with a variety of powerful techniques. Power is addictive and aimless guy yields to the temptation to learn ever greater skills without ever pausing to consider what he wants to do with them.

Alternatively, aimless guy might have gotten into pickup without any clearer a goal than that he wanted to improve his skill with women. Ambiguous goals lead to ambiguous outcomes. Either way, aimless guy lacks a clearly-defined purpose.

Without a purpose to his behaviour, aimless guy allows his behaviour to become its own purpose. Success or failure in the field, without an eye for the bigger picture, becomes aimless guy's yardstick for the measurement of his self-worth. Needless to say, this is an unstable source of validation and happiness. A successful day in the field will produce a “high,” but it will fade and aimless guy will have to make another trip to the field to get validated. An unsuccessful day, however, can produce a “low” that might fade but which might also become the trigger for a negative feedback loop.

Mr. Picky
“She was always using the word infer when she obviously meant imply. And I know some guys would put up with that kind of thing, but frankly, I can't imagine why.”

Mr. Picky is always looking for the bigger, better deal. Outwardly, he probably appears to be the most successful, happy of the three archetypes I've discussed. Ultimately, however, Mr. Picky can not be satisfied. In some ways, Mr. Picky combines the social robot's lack of perspective with aimless guy's obsession with power. He sees the game as a continuing effort to find the best possible woman for himself. Because he is obsessed with his own potential, however, he perceives his latest conquest, however beautiful, charming, or talented she might be, to be less than the best possible woman.

In some regards, this is almost understandable. Accepting less than one's best is “settling.” On the other hand, when dealing with complex variables, such as those that describe real people, it's probably safe to say that “the best” can not be defined. As such, continuous pursuit of perfection in a partner is an unrealistic and insatiable goal. Mr. Picky might enjoy some pleasurable encounters, but like the social robot, his relationships will lack depth.

To his credit, this might not trouble Mr. Picky. If he is self-actualized and recognizes that his struggle for improvement may be futile, he could still be happy with a series of short relationships with increasingly high-quality women. Mr. Picky might even consciously recognize that his pursuit of perfection stands in the way of deeper connections. The perspective that he may lack is that the object of his pursuit is actually unattainable.

The art of pickup should be used to improve men's lives. The final assessment of whether or not a pickup artist is successful should be whether he is happy with the outcomes that he is achieving. A skilled pickup artist who is nonetheless unhappy with his outcomes may well fall into one of the three archetypes that I have described. Be aware of the pitfalls that are present and it will be easier for you to avoid them.

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awesome post, I think one-itis is something else that is a bit weird. e.g "I really like a girl she is all I have wanted etc etc" "pffft thats one-itis get over her you sap". I think it has become confused with genuine feelings when it used to be about being obsessed and putting women on a pedestal.

But yeah I van see small amounts of all of these in me and others I know. I think everyone needs to clearly define their goals for learning this stuff and drop the outcome dependancy. Sarging should be fun, actually it should barely be sarging more going out to have fun with women as secondary thing.

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fantastic, as usual, mister glass!

social robots are the most annoying to me, personally. i think it may be the simplest to spot and simplest to change, though. generally, a newbie to PUA will start with a lot of technique. i think emphasis should be put more toward taking these routines and steps with a grain of salt, trying them, and adapting them to your own personality and mannerisms, rather than sticking to a particular 'method' or routine.
if you've noticed, the best PUAs don't claim to be PUAs or are teachers.

it's easy to fall into any of these traps, honestly. i've noticed in myself a tendency toward being like 'mister picky' more than anything else. but the trick is catching these tendencies, being aware of them, and learning to put them aside.

brilliant post. :)

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ZEG, I just hope one day i'll be able to express my thoughts with a simple keyboard as good as you just did. Two thumbs up.

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I can definitely see a bit of myself in one of these three categories. In fact, I'm pretty sure I may have even once said the sentence you used to illustrate Mr. Picky's attitude :p

Fortunately, my perfect girl came along and swept me off my feet (read: taught me to see imperfect things perfectly).

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wow this is a really awesome post. im glad that ive had a chance to read it

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Pick up has really messed me up. I kind of fit into all three of the categories. I don't have time to develope a meaningful relationship. I have no aim. I want better.

Serious it has screwed me up. I don't know what to do anymore. I'm confused. I can't even explain what I am feeling because when I write it I end up deleting it because it doesn't make sense. [sigh] I need to sort my life out.

Thanks for this post man.


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was mr picky's thing supposed to rhyme? lol

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It is not that difficult to fall into the 3rd one. Mr. picky
About a year ago I was in a situation where I managed to have sex with 10 different women in 10 days, with 3 different women in 1 day.....i was doing stupid things like that, just to see how far can I go.
Suddenly i foundmyself lost. I couldn´t stop. I was dating women like crazy and when i found an interesting and good one, I let her go, because i was already thinking of the next one.

The way out of this was actually for me to concentrate on something totally different in my life. My business.

I am afraid i am still falling into this category tho.


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One more thing I forgot.
Now that i read Mr. picky again.......it´s so spot on!

I think Mr. Picky is the reason I am here on this forum and the reason I started to read these PUA methods (which I had no clue about 1 week ago).

I was getting 7s-8s....many of them. And now. Just like Mr. Picky....I want more.
And even tho some say it´s the same game with 7 as it is with 10, I find it different.


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Great post , spot on!

I recognise myself completly in Mr.Picky. In the beginning getting better and better women was fun and improving my game a lot but at a certain moment my friends started asking me : what in Gods sake are you doing?(juggling a lot of women at the same time) Can't you see that this girl is crazy about you? So then some of these girls started going all emotionally because they were getting their hopes up too much. Then I realised I was playing with these girls emotions and it didn't feel right. I guess it's time to take my responsibility :wink:


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