1. MM is about acting like you are non needy not being no needy.

2. "Bring her to your level" that's precisely what chief was talking about.

3. "A chance to speak with me" supresssing desire and interest another trait and down-side to MM.

Most that use MM & canned routines are very basic beginners & the vast majority are going to have to “fake it until they make it” because no amount of telling them “not to put women on a pedestal” is ever really going to translate into that belief until they get in the field & have some success & see women for what they are. If they could really internalize that belief it’s doubtful they would need be studying pick up help.

MM could say women aren’t above you but let a beginner get blown out like they will early, & that belief will evaporate quickly & they lose faith in the system which for most is what is probably getting them out in the field & giving them what little confidence they have being in the material. I think as a beginner there’s nothing wrong with “acting” until you can get it figured out yourself which is what eventually happens .
Perhaps that was worded incorrectly. Should have said disarmed, but the reality is that's what a neg does take her down a couple notches regardless of your value, & most beginners don't have a lot of social value in reality. Basically every system uses it & just calls is something else be it, disqualifier, breaking rapport etc.

That quote was actually from Blueprint Decoded, which was a natural game set of principles. Even Durden said it was a stretch for a newbie to believe that at 1st.

1. Not everyone needs to fake it till they make it, plus if you fake till you make, their is a real chance that you never transist.

2. Disarmed, again why the hell would she be armed? And no every system does not use it, plus disqualifiers are very different from negs.

3. I don't care about what durden says The point stands, this idea that your only talking to her for conversation is true maybe 20% of the time when sarging, the rest of the time it's just bullshit.

Using MM like training wheels is letting your experiences control you. Thats what these guys have done their whole lives and thats why they cant get women already. Do you really want to be just the sum result of your experiences? Do you want to continue letting your experience control you, or do you want to control your experiences? Change your perceptions change your life.

Lets settle this.

Solid inner game + MM = Works.

It seems that the trend is to reject the Mystery Method nowadays... People from all around start bashing this method saying that you dont like it for various reasons.

Well, My take on this. It does work.

My explanation, it is not what it seems.

The Mystery method is not a method meant to be used as it is used by 99% of all PUAs. The Mystery method is easy to grip, easy to use, there is a fixed amount of rules and techniques that you can use in order to get the girl, easy to remember right?

Ok so these "rules, techniques and routines" feels faked right? They sure do. But Mystery has developed them from scratch and stumbled upon a very important discovery, it is not about negs, stories, time constraints really. They are just means to achieve another thing. They are there to give you success or results while you learn the most important lesson of all. There is no game, its an illusion.

Negs, routines, timeconstraints are all there to fake the presence of a confident man. This is the way a confident man would act... Some girl see through it and some dont. Anyway it will be better than nothing. You will start having more successes than before and believe that the method itself works. After a while you get good at it and start feeling comfortable around women. After that you start feeling confident. Then you dont need so many routines and realize that there is no need to use the routines that you use to fake confidence, you are allready confident.

The other thing that Mystery found was the DHV spikes. They are real. But you dont need to deliver them as mechanically as you are taught. If you need more attraction, flip another switch, if you are doing allright, dont. Easy as that.

Lastly, Mysterys way of not showing interest before she does is a good thing too. It is not a rule, more a guideline. Many naturals spit on this because they think that they dont need it. The problem is that these naturals dont realize that they have already built interest in this girl before opening. Thats right, it is possible to have sufficient IOIs to start off in A3.

50% of the Mystery method is made to teach you one thing. Dont be needy. This is soo difficult for most men to grasp, this is so difficult to calibrate, being not needy but still not just standing in a corner.

The M3 structure is also a way to teach newbies to not seem needy. The negs too. This all boils down to one thing, faking confidence.

It is fake it until you make it! Sarge using the M3 model and you will become more confident.

The M3 model is not really a gameplan, it is a teaching plan. The further you progress the more parts you can skip. In the end, you dont really need any of it, but then you have become good enough to go natural.

It is one thing to learn the Mystery method, most guys can do that.
It is another thing to master the Mystery method, some guys do that.

It is a completely different thing to really understand the Mystery method, see through it... Not many people do that.


Bottom line. The Mystery method works, but see it as it is meant to be seen, a way to learn.

Ezo

Well, you are gonna be the sum of your experiences whether you like it or not. I guess what you are saying is that you can intellectually train yourself (NLP etc?) to realize certain things. Yes sure that can work too. However, I like to chose the experiences I will get in the future, going into situations where I can practice the things that I have not mastered.

Building confidence by experience is a bit like practical truisms.

You know like standing in front of a mirror every morning telling yourself that you are awesome... Compared to go out there every night and prove to yourself taht you are awesome. Not that I read it it sounds pathetic too... But thats how I built my confidence.

Whats kind of ironic is that doing it without a crutch like MM is not only faster but easier. 99% of people already have had the experiences they need to form stronger levels of confidence then MM will ever grant you... all they have to do is change the perception and the confidence is theres in a matter of days.

Sounds more like marketing than real life to me.

Hmm, interesting.

I am willing to give every new method a try. So how would you recommend changing ones perception?

And, yes, it takes a special sort of person to get to most out of the MM. It is not until you are ready to leave it that you realise that you are learning for real.