Ok, I confess I don't have the time to read the whole thread, so I've just browsed the first couple posts down to about where Chief made his first one. That being said, I will most likely read the whole thing when I do have the time, so cut me some slack if I say something that has already been addressed.

I think that this is a good excercise and easily achievable given the line. That's right, it's not even that hard of a line, so guys who think that this is super difficult, you need to relax. I've said much worse things to girls and still made out with them 5 minutes later. This is a good skill to learn, it's called recovery. It's also the art of tonality and intention, because the words DON'T matter, it's not WHAT you say, it's HOW you say it!

I expect to hear that you've made $100 from these guys man cause you don't even have to play by their rules, you can just change them and do your own thing. Say it with a cocky funny attitude and when you say it right she'll know you're not actually calling her a fat chick and saying that you want to fuck some fat nasty bitch, she'll hear that you are confident and a funny jerk who isn't afraid of losing her and doesn't mind screwing around a bit.

I say shit to girls all the time that other guys don't think will work, but because I say it the way I do, the girls end up interested, rather than turned off. I say some of the most crude shit you've ever heard and it turns them on. I have to bike to work and there's a girl who walks there, so I told her that I wanted her to give me a lift home (as in carry me on her back) and I told her that she'd better have enough room in her trunk for my bike. If you read between the lines the innuendo was talking about sticking something up her ass and riding her, a.k.a fucking her up the ass. She punched me, but she was laughing and grinning from ear to ear and I bet that if she didn't have a boyfriend, or if I didn't have a personal rule against breaking people up unless I think the guy isn't good for the girl, then I could easily follow through with that innuendo. I make cracks at her all night long about sexual things like liking whipping cream off me and all sorts of really filthy things and all it does is make her light up.

You need to do this to become a good PUA, so get to work and anyone who says this is a stupid thing to do, you're a pussy and you don't know what the game is really about. If you watch Keys to the VIP (which is a show for shitty amature, wannabe PUAs) you'll see that recovery is even one of their missions.

Actually, I've seen a few REALLY GOOD episodes of that where PUAs (not just Cajun) demonstrate their awesome abilities. You can definitely pick up a thing or two from the naturals on there as well. Even though their standards for a pickup are unrepresentative of what actually matters (you can't fuck a phone number, after all), I highly recommend watching that show.

Anyways, working off of what Rye Lee has said, I wholeheartedly agree that any aspiring PUA should go through a stage where he experiments with saying just the most outlandish things without a filter. Even if you don't retain this characteristic in your pickup style, it's something you should explore so that you get a better feel for what you're doing in field.

A lot of this is going to depend on the type of energy you give out. You need to be really driven and energetic.

I've seen episodes of the show once in a while and you cannot buy in-field experience. As much as you knock the show, it has guys in the field doing things and getting things done. I agree with Chief, watch the show, learn from it, tailor stuff to your personality and go out and be sociable. The worst thing that could happen is that nothing happens at all.

There is actually a game some of my mates told me about the other day called "Pull The Bull" where you basically go up to the most unattractive girl in the club and pull her. Apparently someone went up to a bull and she immediately said "You're playing pull the bull aren't you" the guy replied yes, she then says "Oh well it's the only way I get any action, come here".
Not really relevant to this thread but the thread reminded me of that and I found it quite funny.


Anyway, I recently posted a thread about an accidentle opener-recovery I did where I elbowed the girl in the back of the head, unintentionally of course, but I quite literally physically harmed her quite badly, but 10 minutes and some escalation later got the make out.
Recovery is definately useful to learn, it's better to plough on than just give up.

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This is a great exercise!
- It shows you have the confidence to say something potentialy insulting
- it is a false disqualifier, your telling her shes fat/ugly when realy shes not (i hope)
- You will never score a 10 if you open with somthing nice or a compliment. vise versa bringing a 10 down in the opener is very likely to get her attention.
- a pick up artist is the exception. everyone will tell this girl shes cute/hot whereas your the exception and can say the complete opposite (ofcoarse in the right way)

And my favourite bit is that you get to prove to all the non-believers that its not WHAT you say its HOW you say it... I agree with Rye Lee

Win lots of $$ i believe in you.

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