It is an understatement to not give a shit during a pick up.

The two ways to actually practice this mentality when with a woman is:

1) Not focus on it
2) Be in pleasure

Without digress, I will explain.

The focal points to AVOID when with a woman of beauty, power, status:

Everything about her.
The conversation with her, including her responses.
Her opinions of you.
Her thoughts of you.
and lastly. HER

These are bad focal points, and really, why focus on it? It gives too much power to the woman.

This won't prevent you from being yourself or running game, but allow you to reach your fullest potential by avoiding her as your focal point.


The point is- Don't focus on anything.

Here is how things should run:

Intuition
Automatic
Pleasure

When you are vibing with her, or talking, be in pleasure and enjoy every moment of it.

Your intuition will guide you, and it will be automatic and from your desires.
And lastly, be in PLEASURE.

I know it sounds gay, but when you are talking and vibing with a girl, your state of pleasure will project through your body language and voice tonality.

Topic of conversation quickly just became irrelevant.

This is the core of successful interactions. Not focus driven bullshit.

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yea but to some guys all ^^^^ of that is "against their nature". They do not know how to alternate their feelings towards a said chick...they do not have the conditioning or experience. WHY?

Ive seen dudes that have had double the experience ive had with women, and they STILL cannot talk to a chick past a certain attractiveness point without running into the same typical problems. Just cause there's something about "going beyond that point" that makes them shift into the wrong mindset.

+ Society= There are beautiful women all around every where we turn in society. Magazines, posters, advertisements, in the news(they dont have ugly bitches preaching the news) TV , along side of us at work etc.. The thing i don't understand, if beauty can be seen as "common" as much as its present today why can 't guys keep their cool around such females? Inside a female is a female, pretty much the same, a pattern if you will across the board...just the outside looks that press us to go over the top...subconscious decisions and realizations. But even upon all that we can learn otherwise and lay experience on top of things to know how things really work.

That brings the fact down to, what experience has one had? People see my attitude as straight orthodox, totally foreign and against what should be. I see it as what is right and natural. There is no reason any guy out there should be putting any said woman above them, or on a pedestal or being their personal nigger/slave. We as humans are created equally, although with different traits and what not making each individual a unique being.

What i personally believe it is, all of it is like being a hypochondriac. One creates the symptoms and issues in their own mind, it is not present there naturally. Almost like if you think about a certain instance enough it will seemingly become evident via placebo of your own mind. So if your always flippin out about every hot woman/girl you see, your mind becomes accustomed to being "sparked" in the presence of one. Therefore if one approaches, your mind makes the connections, then goes to work and your all fucked in the head/jumping through hoops. But what if you do not make those realizations but stay calm(as BESCHATTEN said). The spark or boost does not occur, therefore your mind is clean to act normally without the spur of other things.

Conditioning is what is key. Its natural to be wowed when some HB comes up, but just dont let it get out of hand, appreciate the beauty...don't let it asphyxiate your judgement. This goes on both sides as well..women can let their feelings get the better of them as well if the right man walks into their presence.

REALIZE WHAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT!
that is all..........

I think you're missing the context of my post.

This isn't about issues, it's about not having any issues or any focal points.

What you are mentioning are pre-conditioned natural behaviors of guys messing up in sarge. Without any focal points on the actual target you will be liberated from
pressure and

outcome dependency.

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Bes,,, Dude that is some deep ass shit. It's the step guys need to take but won't take. I Really liked it. maybe you can post it in the "natural" section too, because that what it's all about.


Hey plenty of ways to skin a cat. Yours is just one of many good ideas. You got your card tricks, palm reading, working with wings etc, and then there is the natural approach.... I think that's the best way.

Thanks.

This is probably one of the worst posts Ive ever read.
Don't focus on the conversation you are having? We aren't fucking robots.

Thanks for you thoughts. If you can call them that.

Clearly you lack any form of a brain.

When you can provide evidence arguing how I run game is the 'wrong' way to run game, I'll take time out of my life to listen to you.

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Your game is no doubt run superbly. The problem is your explanation. For an AFC who reads this it is going to look like the perfect complement to using a rehearsed opener. He will completely forget about her thanks to you telling him to NOT focus on probably four things he bloody well should be focusing on and end up being lost inside his own routines. The girl will then think "why does it feel like this guy is putting on an act?" or worse "why does this guy keep talking about himself? What an arrogant wanker"

Seriously "Be in pleasure"???? It sounds real fucking zen. What are you deliberately trying to confuse people?

Sometimes I think people are deliberately kept AFC so they'll fork out more money to buy some pointless books.

Half Natural,, you're way off base. Don't bring AFCs up and how this won't work for them. They will fuck anything up, that's why they are AFCs.

This is not presented as beginer shit, go to the New Guy lounge for that or the "Do Exactly What I Do, Say Exactly What I Say, Become Me To Meet More Woman!!!!!! web site for that. If you want to learn how to really score, realize it will take years and picking advice from many people. A crumb here, a crumb there, making your own game.

Maybe read through it again and if it blows your mind so bad,,, think about that.

Bullshit it takes years of advice. You can learn how to score in about 6 months tops. How convenient that a community run by people who make money from giving advice about this is infected with the myth that pickup takes years to learn. If that were true, every PUA would be over 30 and they're are clearly some very young PUAs out there.

In 6 months? How?

Read these forums. Read a few online newsletters. Understand the various pickup philosophies. Torrent a book or two. But most importantly, sarge, sarge sarge. You can theorise all you want: but the field never lies.

The more you acknowledge the girl, the more you'll chode out.

Think of the situation as a theatrical play, and you are your only audience. Enjoy it and be in pleasure.

The semantics of pleasure being, enjoying the company of yourself and who you are.

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Please do none of the above.

There is a difference between acknowledging her and letting her walk all over you. You need to find that balance.

As Darwin said, it's not the fittest species that survives, but the one most adaptive to change. Ignoring any possible variation is a sure fire way to miss an opportunity to adapt.

I may be wrong but I think roughly the jist of what Bes is trying to say is don't acknowledge her as someone better than you, or more than you.
If you make a joke do it because it'll amuse you, not because you are trying to amuse her.

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If you make a joke, do it because it's funny.