wow got some great responses and feedback!

Im def gonna try rye's method the next time im in the field ^^

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Remember the KEY to using this technique, is not to turn YOUR back on the group, but to position yourself, so that SHE turns her back on the group. "Out of sight, out of mind."

Other way around and your results will be less than desired, believe me.

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I feel like Rye's technique makes the most sense, it not only analyzes the psychological aspects of the group but also the dynamics of the group itself. When you turn your back to the group, like he said, its almost as if you had to hide something, but if you are facing the group it shows you are honest and have nothing to hide. Also if you look at group dynamics there are always side conversations going on and you just create a one-on-one side conversation with her and presto-isolate.

Great post by Rye. There is so much great information on this forum it's hard to absorb it all right away. But that's a good problem to have =) Resonance, I love that trick! Haha, I'm probably going to have to put that one to good use someday!

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I dont like isolating at all.

Its better to just constantly work the whole crowd. First the entire club, then set by set, then the whole club, then go back to individual girls and start up more personal convos. Usually by this point, the girls will actually be trying to start them with you, and will be "chasing" you (girls rarely actually chase, instead they will try to hook and hold you when you cruise by). And then "isolation" will happen entirely spontaneously, and yeah, just like Rye and Chief and others say, right next to her group of friends.

I mean, you've never had an hour long discussion with a girl at a crowded scene, without either of you saying another word to anybody else for the entire duration??

That is perfect isolation.

As far as physical isolation goes, its best not to prematurely peel them away. They will naturally follow you somewhere, you will naturally end up in a sex location, and then you are getting laid. Really its the girl making this decision, or rather, its you setting it up so that she is able to make this decision.

That, or they wont, and you are better off making her laugh in front of all her friends all night, so then she is calling you back the next day or so and setting it up so that it does happen. (Her friends will call you too =P)

You dont want her saying to all her hot gf's, "omg that guy was so nice, but then he tried to trick me over to his place and blah blah blah! All he wanted was to get in my pants! What a creep!!" You dont want her even thinking this.

As far as making out goes... DiCarlo has a point about breaking the "ramp".. there are a certain amount of girls who will flake out on you if you dont escalate it to finish.. Still, it can be nice to make out half the night as well, and there are a certain amount of girls who dont mind picking up where you last left off, either

You can do mini isolations as Rye talked about, but I like to actually move her as movement is the ultimate test of attraction and starts to utilize time distortion.

I simply give a plausible excuse to move:

It's too loud here...

I wanna grab a seat keep me company

I'm gonna grab a drink at the bar, keep me company.

It's cold over here...

Isolation is SIMPLE, you just have to go for it.

S

as far as I see it there are two types of isolation. The type within a group and geographical isolation.

The one inside a group is the easiest and will make you encounter the least resistance, essentially you move their focus from the group by moving. SO you are 5ft away from the group but facing inwards adn with her back to the group so you won't be interrupted.

The other type, I usually say hey lets grab a seat my legs are knackered and then just lead them and sit.

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Resonance and Rye both had great ideas.

The magic trick is good for larger groups. It makes the girl laugh while also getting her isolated. Its way less awkward. Also the group doesn't see you take her away.

The group isolation is very natural but you also run the risk of loosing her to the group. But if your really that interesting then you have nothing to worry about!

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