ok, good. she was straight with you.

she's not lying. it IS too soon for her to even think about dating another guy, esp. excusively.

so she's telling you she can be your lover. but it's prob. gonna be on her terms, which means she won't answer your calls, and won't return your texts, and will show up when she wants to show up.

if you are happy with that, then all is cool. if not, you have to decide what you want, and tell her without anger and without judgement. there's no way to trick her into doing something she can't do. even if she did it, she'd hate herself and you and make you both miserable.

she's in no position to be your girlfriend right now, even casually. she'd be a terrible girlfriend right now. give her space... and if you hook up, enjoy it. in time, she might be ready.

just think about it. if you broke up with a terrible girlfriend 4 days ago, what would you need?

not another girlfriend. but sex with a girl who's nice to you and makes you feel good would be ok... as long as there's no pressure.

keep it casual and fun. NOTHING heavy.


(or, you can reduce her to the conquest she's meant to be )

this stuff is waaaaaay more complicated than pickup. that's why PUA gurus don't talk about it.

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well i was going nuts last night, thinking how I'm so done with her, and done thinking about her. Then my roommate ask her friend out to breakfast.

I said I don't care, I don't want to go, knowing that she will be there.

When my roommate got there, there were the two girls, and he told the girl I like "he just doesn't care anymore especially after last night"

she said "well if he doesn't care then I don't care"

He said to her "I think you both care, and you're just playing a game to see who breaks first"

she said "i think i already have"


So I went to get a haircut while they were out and about doing whatever, and I go to get lunch with my roommate, who didn't tell me he was still with them.

I was pissed about my haircut, I went to the paul mitchelle school where they have students cut your hair, needless to say it looks like I got hit with a weedwacker.

She said she liked it... I smiled

we didn't talk much, and then I went to work. and she left.

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wow, i really wanna help yur situation, but u are getting all worked up over a girl, im def not a pua but arent puas or ppl with teh pua mindset supposed to game girla and not get gamed, u are showing wayyy to much needyness. seems like its gotten to the point where its controlling the way u carry yurslef on a daily basis. this is a 18 year old girl, i stress the girl part. even the females in the 20 and up range dont know what they want. just lay off this girl she apparntly got out of a relationship. go about your life, nad most importantly talk to some more females. if she was really into you she'll be back.

you have a false conception of reality dude

so she kept coming over unannounced and brought friends with her, i was flirting with her friends the entire time, she gave me no attention, and her friends did.

so I had fun with her friends, entertained, and thought to myself, this is bullshit, so I deleted her number from my phone and swore i'd never talk to her again.

out of no where she calls me the next day, I don't answer. Immediately she calls my roommate, he answers and ask to talk to me.

She wanted to go out to dinner at chipotle. I was busy at the time and said maybe later. She calls back a minute later, how about in 30 minutes?

I tell her make it 40 and ill try to be there.

She acts uninterested with her stupid girlfriend, so I ate, got a box for my food, and went next door to the bath and body works, and flirt with the girls in there, and tell her I have to go by 730, "i promised a friend i'd have dinner at their house" is what i told her.

She wasn't happy. and ended up texting me that night. I waited about an hour to text her back, she wrote back immediately and I didn't write back at all.

Then she comes into my work to eat. i wait on her and her friend, she ask if I want to catch a movie at 6, it was 515 at the time, and i was off. I said "why don't you call me, i gotta go home real quick"

She came over again that night, i talked with her friends and ignored her.

Now I'm not this much of a dick to any girl, and she said if she didn't have sex with me, she'd think I was gay because of how nice and none judgement I am, so for some wack job of a reason she thinks i'm nice.
this is 3 weeks of no responses to text or phone calls, now she's calling 3 times a day and texting me all the time.

So she comes over today and dyes my hair(like she knew what I was thinking, I've been wanting to go darker for months), and notices a hickie on my neck, and ask who is it from. I tell her, "you know when you don't answer, there are plenty of other girls out there who love spending time with me" (which is true, she was just a fucking challenge like i've never seen)

We talked, and she was really into me, wanting to meet my family and everything. I go to the gym, and she sends me a message right before I get there " it was nice getting to know you" I send her a message 3 hours later "do you want to hang out tonight"

She said "I want to, but i'm at my mom's and dying your hair was hopeless"
I said "it actually is a little darker, maybe you can transform me into your perfect guy in 3 weeks"
she says "haha i dont want to transform you, you can stay the same and I'll still really like you"
I said "well it sounds like your on to something"

I'm going to wait for her to ask to hang out again, cause I asked if she wanted to, and she didn't, so I believe the ball is in her court.

this is exciting stuff. never did i think could it be so much fun.

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dude, this girl is waaaay insecure and fucked up.

i'm sure she's a nice person.

but you gotta be clear with her about what YOU want.

she wants to meet your family? already?

RED FLAG.

she will do whatever it takes to get you in a relationship faster than you want to. so have fun, but be careful.

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Oh my god, this is better than a soap opera! LOL

I have absolutely no advice, but I think I'm learning things here... keep us posted.

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LOL @ better than a soap opera

alright so she text me yesterday morning, I said thanks for the wake up text, went to work, she texted me if I was still at work, I text her I was even though i was still there, and asked if she wanted to get lunch

so we meet at my house, I still get there 5 minutes before her, and we go to this fine dining restaurant, I still hadn't taken her on a real date, she had paid for her food the last 5-6 times. So it felt good to take her out.

we went to starbucks sat on a bench talked and smoked. She was really pushing to get to know me more, and kept talking about meeting my mom and sister.

So I take her to my house she meets my mom and sister, but they were heading out the door, so we didn't stay long, and then we went for a walk on the river.

I told her I had fun and we'll have to hang out again soon. She had other plans, she planned to spend the night too. So we go to her house pick up a few movies and come back to my house to watch them. We watch one movie and then go to the store.

I cooked dinner for her back at my house we watch another movie, have champange. She told me she was spending the night earlier, and I REALLY wanted to go to the gym. So I asked her if she's spending the night, and she said "if you give me a good reason" I told her I need someone to make me breakfast in the morning.

I knew she was on her drip/period so sex wasn't even running threw my mind. Plus im steroids so my sex drive is less than a 6 year old boy. I dont mind cuddling for like an hour, but she couldn't stay off of me.

Mind you on roids your body temp increases when you sleep and I've been waking up in the middle of the night drenched in sweat, and since my liver is already being taxed by the roids, alcohol increased my temp too. And her on top of me I was boiling all night. It was 36F last night and my window was wide open.

She gave me a big kiss and left this morning to go to work.

I asked her why the sudden change in her behavior and she said she was still kinda with her bf even after the new years, but she broke up with him for good and really likes me, and kept saying how nice i was.

who knows, im being very careful, but it sounds like she wants a relationship and is trying to give me what i want

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holy shit.

you are on steroids and she's just off a fucked-up relationship?

fucking hell. you two are perfect for each other.


good luck, bro. this is where i gotta hop off the help train. you are taking things way into the wilderness here.

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LOL ok absolutely did not see this coming. You win Roads' annual award for "Paragraph Out of Left Field", and it's only frickin' January.

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well last night she finally met my parents, she loved them and liked me even more, she kept ranting and raving how cute i was, and how she thought i was hot stuff.

this is after I said fuck it, im going to wreck this girl for playing so many games, i decided I would no longer be a pua but a hustler and see how much I could get out of her.

She gave me a $120 watch
bought me lunch, dinner and then breakfast
hemmed my jeans
and a new pair of shoes

and all i did was "punish her" when she did something I did not like, and gave her a little attention when she did something i liked, but i made it seem like nothing pleased me.

I fucked her with my half flaccid penis (thanks to roids) and had to pretend to cum. She took me out to breakfast, and I went back to sleep and she went to work.

it sure doesn't feel good though, but it's what i needed to do to get her out of my system.

look for her in july's playboy "girls next door" she has a few tats.

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this is some story you made up here. you should see a therapist man

First off..get your boxers back

I would NEVER borrow a girl my boxers...talking about invading privacy lol.

Anyways to come back to your answer, I would listen to an audiotape by "VoodooChild" at www.becomeaplayer.com called "the impulsive horny moment" (it's on the upper right).

It pretty much explains everything you need to know about how to act after having sex with a woman

Oh and don't mind the strong accent lol.


EDIT: oh after reading his other post.... yeah I definitely think he should see a therapist haha.
What's next? You just found out she's a spy using you to get close to the source of the steroids factory?

Yeah dude, why are you causing such a big scene?

She has a BF but he sounds like he's made of crap. Wait it out, he'll be gone soon, in the meantime get a couple of more birds to take you mind off it. If your free when and she becomes available she will contact you if it was good.