This thread came from me posting about my night last weekend. Is it just a bad idea to try and pick up girls when you are out with friends? I understand that especially if you are with girls it CAN help but just wondered if people think it is better to just go out with a wing. I have never gone out to a pub on my own YET! Any thoughts on this would be great, I find it difficut to pull when out with friends unless we are all drunk (then no one cares what is going on haha)

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Personally I will sarge alone or with other non-pua's around. If I got a group of five I'm with I try to make sure I sarge, you have a caravan of social proof. You just have to make sure you are the alpha of your group. Then go from there. I've actually pulled some nice closes while having non-pua friends in tow. Utilize your assets.

I have been doing everything alone. I would do stuff with my buddies but I'm sure they'd ruin it.

I'm over 30 and all my friends are married with kids and the couple that aren't think it's lame to use any scripted conversations, so I've been on my own this whole time. I don't think you could do things with buddies if they had no clue, they'd inevitably ruin your timing.

I think it's ok to go alone though, it just kind of starts you off with less social value when you walk into a place all by yourself. Kind of sucks to make false time constraints, but I've found ways around it. (cell phones have alarms or you might have to call someone in 10 minutes to help them find the place)

I think the big thing is it's better to have friends around to hang out, interrupt sets, work in for the other HBs in the group and work game on all of em at once.

I guess it's probably better to go it alone though from an experience standpoint, if you are doing things on your own, you HAVE to have the confidence and courage, there's no crutch of your buddies pushing you. So you live and die by your own actions which is probably the faster way to go about mastering things.

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i am very new to this stuff but i have gone out with non pua friends and half the time when they are pissed come up rub my head or steal one of my peacocking hats.

This just ruins the sarging for me, so i have one wingman now i go sarging with or on my own

I go by myself since most of my friends are hermits or like to start fights.

During the week, unless I'm with a really, really cool client, I'm forced to go solo.

Most of my friends have gf's so they keep my buddys in line. We also have this unspoken but all agreed upon rule of not messing with another guy if he is making progress with an HB. Another benefit for me is that typically I can make one of them an instant wing in case I need an obstacle removed. Thats just another unspoken agreement we have always had.

I wouldn't trust someone else, maybe it's just me i prefer to do things on my own..

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2 choices either Fade away, or go down blazing!

my 2 cents, ive had a lot of AFC friends that have blown sets for me.

I Believe that friends can be useful for using openers with them and ofc when you are out with friends you show that you are a very social person that has lots of friends,however if your friends are not in the knowledge of what your trying to do and how to help you they can ruin your whole game