So, I'm new to this forum but I just found it but I need serious help.

I extremely frustrated because I'm successful, intelligent and creative, have a good job and career, drive an awesome car, have all of my shit together, in a bunch of clubs and organizations, I work out so I'm more fit than 99% of the other guys and I'm told I'm above average in attractiveness and have a great future ahead of me but I'm having trouble conveying that I am the complete package to girls. How do I make the pieces fit?

I meet girls and date somewhat regularly...but most are from the internet or through a friend or friend of the family but all of the experiences end the same as I feel like I'm never in CONTROL. I'll get a couple of dates and then it seems like it dies...I'm like what the fuck. I think I'm in need of a major personality overhaul.

I haven't ventured into the club scene too much as I'm naturally shy but I'm willing to work at correcting that.

WHERE DO I BEGIN?

I am starting to set up my goals for 2009 and this social stuff is at the top of my list. I'm serious and if there is anyone in the Houston area who wants to help me I'd really appreciate that as I'm willing to put my pride aside to turn this thing around.

First step build social proof.

It is a lot easier to game a chich if she knows one of your friends because then the opening has been done for you.

You have to build alpha male traits. If you can act alpha enough girls swarm to you like bees. Without you even saying a word.

Good luck bro!

Anyone here from the Houston area?

Unfortunately I'm a few thousand miles away from the Houston area so I can't really help out in any significant way. I'm getting the impression you haven't come across pick-up arts before, I could be wrong. If you haven't come across any of this before I'd suggest reading 'The Game' by Neil Strauss to give you an idea of what this is all about, it's a really entertaining book anyway You could probably download it somewhere for free so there's no need to go spending money on it.

Other than that there are a couple of books that actually teach you how to do this stuff, different people have their own opinions on which are the best but the ones I'd recommend are:

The Venusian Arts Handbook (probably the most famous pua instructional book)

Magic Bullets (basically the same as the VA handbook so there's no need to get both)

The Attraction Code by Vin Di Carlo (probably the best book out there on natural game)

Principles of Attraction by Adam Lyons (a breakdown of the processes people go through in become attracted to another person and guidelines on how to use the information to make a woman attracted to you)

All of these are E-books so you can get em online. I wouldn't say read too much, any one of these books will give you everything you need to start doing this stuff, then it's just a case of practicing.

You could get started now and read the stickies at the top of the 'Newbie Questions' section on this site.

Hope this helps anyway, best of luck

I'm Houston bound, though I relate really well to what you say in that I think highly of myself and I can't seem to convince women to feel the same way. PM me if you want to get something going.

Confidence is key man. The more you do something the more comfortable you become doing it. Reading books and forums is a great start, but you need to get out there and start practicing. Go to a club and work in stages. First night you go there to simply talk to as many women as possible and get comfortable approaching them. Second night you ask girls to dance (women relate dancing to sex). Third night you number close a few women. Now your building up a rolodex (you should be able to get 3 or 4 numbers), call or text them the next day (this shows you are comfortable and used to talking to women, getting her number is no big deal) and make plans to go out (out of the 3 or 4 numbers you get you'll probably get 2 or 3 dates). The more you do this, the more comfortable you will become and you should start gaining that control, you said you didn't have.

Good luck with your sarges,
B-Man

I'm up in Dallas. A lot of people from up here used to live down there and I get the information of good sarging spots.

Houston has a pretty good array of bars and of course, The Galleria, which is like 75% women most of the time .

Austin, a few miles away x_x, has the best spots in the more clubby / bar district. I can't be discrete because I pretty much forgot the details, but if there's anywhere best to sarge in Texas, Austin is the place to meet beautiful women. I also have heard Corpus Christi is good. Sorry for the loose details man, I suck at memory @_@.

As for convincing women? If you think highly of yourself you should be able to convey it very easily through stories and the high amounts of positive energy you'll give off.

That's pretty much the basics, start studying and reading people's posts, ask questions!

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I think I just spotted a problem. You want to convey all of this stuff because you think that it's what's going to get you the girls. It's not. The job and the career and the car are things that are external to you. Attractiveness comes from within.

You work out, too, and you're obviously very motivated. That's good. You've got the raw drive. Now it's just a matter of channeling it in the right direction.
All the stuff that you listed above is for you. That's for your happiness. It's not what you're going to use to attract girls. Because if you do, then they'll be attracted to your stuff and not you. And if you talk about it, they'll think that you're trying to use that stuff to distract them from what you've got inside. No more talking about your stuff. Or your job.

Ever seen Fight Club? It's a lot like that.
Based on this, I'd say you're head-and-shoulders ahead of most guys who first get into this.
With action. And it seems that you're accustomed to that, so you'll improve fast. Start with the free ten-day bootcamp down there in my sig. That'll get you moving.
Go ahead and learn some theory first. There are some recommended reading lists hanging around this site, as well as some reviews of videos and stuff. Check those out. And be sure to apply what you learn.

Stuff that I recommend:

Everyone involved in this whole deal has read The Game by Neil Strauss, and you might want to as well. While reading this, keep in mind that it's only one guy's perspective (and that guy has a vested interest in the pickup business, and things have changed since the book came out). It's about a dude that went from nothing to among the best. And it's only a story. I recommend it because it will show you that what you're trying to do is, in fact, possible.

Don't lay any money out on any products just yet. Learn what you can about all the different methods, try them out, and see what you like. I'm a big fan of natural game, m'self.

In the meantime, though, just chill, dude. You can do this.

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