if you wanted to try out disqualifying you could say something along the lines of.

Her: your eyes are so pretty
You: I agree, but it's just genetics I think it's the things we do to improve others lives that really give us value.
Her(predicted response): yea I know people are so superficial blah blah blah

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to be able to make fun of yourself of a very desirable characteristic, of course if that doesn't become a DLV thing, and this is NOT the case..

comments like that makes the girls be like.. 'this guy's kinda cool.. he's hot, and yet he acts like nothing, sympathetic'

if instead of responding like that you go for the CF, it must be a HUGH F, that one.

i have met countless amounts of girls who say that they find arrogance attractive - as much as it annoys them.#

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thats some great material my friends. i feel like i fall into the good looking, potential player category myself, and am working on improving my approach from confident and modest, to outgoing/normal ugly guy vibe.

To the eyes thing just play it off and ask if she wants to touch them.. being totally serious then change the subject. Compliment taken, humor introduced

Its all an illusion.................sorry to burst your bubble. Women are constantly checking guys out, even if you're ugly.
Believe it or not women (even hot ones) are continually worrie dabout what guys think of them and are unsure how attractive they are until guys start interacting with them.
Usually this happens with girls 16-18 who continually play with their hair, look at me when their friends are talking, trailing their fingers over their legs and other body parts, foot pointing, hair twirling, smiles, extended eye contact, pouting, playing with earings etc etc. This is called "pinging" they are sending out sexual signals- and expecting "feedback" by guys "pinging" back- i.e. walking into lamposts, wolf whistling, staring etc

There is a noticeable break in IOIs ages 18-25 in a night club environment when women are in their prime and looking good. There are very few IOIs. In fact there is a term for this PUA Procrastination that is "the IOI that never comes". Girls are "poker faced" looking hot, their bitch shields are on full beam.

Then ages 25+ when women realise they're still "on the shelf", I think USA guys call them "cougars" they start 10 years of female desperation- wanting careers, kids, friends, stability, men...........and start dropping their standards- sleeping with older but muscular guys- or younger youthful looking males. Note I said "youthful looking" not "good looking"

IOI mystery solved!

Its not an illusion though i do agree with everything you said in your post about age differences and IOI frequency and noticability.

Being attractive is actually a disability when it comes to using some Pua material but it generally makes things easier for you if you dont overblow the negs. You generally dont need to build as much attraction and its all about building comfort and rapport.

Also generally better looking Pua's are more successful in the early stages purely based on their looks, they get more IOI's and most are more likely to pick up on them more readily due to the fact that they've already been getting them for a couple years, just haven't been pointed in the right direction.

It all comes down to inner game in later stages when pua's get good and looks can actually be a hinderance now, since if a good looking guy all of a sudden has a pimple outbreak his game could be shot since his confidence would obviously take a hit.

I like this topic though even though it is relatively dead, really shows some insight into how people percieve themselves and others.

In my experience being attractive can be a disability because it allows me to more easily settle. If you are an unattractive guy you know you have to strap up your boots and put some effort into making your personality more attractive, whereas an attractive guy can get lower quality girls by literally doing nothing. I think being attractive can be a hinderance in that it lowers the need to put effort in yourself and raises the chances of you settling.

I think that attracting girls is much less about yourself and much more about them. Make her feel excited and sexy and awesome around you and reward her for the effort she puts into talking to you and getting to know you and she will reward you with more sex than you can handle and in my case a box of ice cream. The problem with the ice cream is it kills my sexy body and then how can I attract more girls easily... damnit sometimes I can never win lol.

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i read that you can get away with more errors when you are attractive, but i disagree...

my theory:

if you are attractive, girls expect a higher level of game from you

you are attractive > so you must have had more experience than an unattractive guy... this is what the girl thinks...

the better you look, the tighter your game should be

otherwise the girls will think: what a loser, he looks so good, but he doesnt know how to use it (he has got a machine gun, but he tries to fight with his hands and doesnt even know how to fight with his hands as well)

so all in all its even harder to PU if you look good.

only advantage of looking good, is when you actually have sex with her. because with an ugly guy (with game) she will always think: damn i feel emotionally like i want to have sex with him, but rationally i just cant because his looks break the fairy tale... ugly guys always have to fight that rational thought...