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Tune in to Maxim Radio on Sirius.... Friday, Sept. 26th, 2:00pm EST to hear Zip babble about things that are important. I'll be on for the last bit of the show.

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zip, ur posts have really taught me alot about the way women think. Of course I'm not generalzing here and everyone is different but i'm sure there are universal similarities. I think its interesting that you would play along while a pua runs game on you. Again this tells me alot about women and the way they want their interactions to progress. It would also be hilarious to see you call them out on their routines. anyways I've got a couple quick q's...

1) what's the best way to k-close? are gimmicks acceptable? and none of that "kino, escalate, go for it when it feels right" stuff because its a little vague to me..im having trouble bridging the gap between isolation and k-close

2) is it DLV to ask a girl where the two of you stand or could she respond well?

3) is a kiss on the cheek an IOI or not? i know context is important for this question but i don't want to bore you with quite a long story

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post 999 :( maybe i should post again.
my question is about letting a girl down softely.
this girl i met got my number then i got hers but she said call me tomorow. now she is 10+ years older than me, and i didnt really find anything different about her, so is there a way of not continuing, but not being an ahole by not calling/texting?

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forgot to say. POST 1000
congrats, wheres the party ;)

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I enjoyed reading through the last 66 pages =) I learnt a lot reading other questions and answers

I also have a few questions:
1) Would you ever date an asian guy? What are the major problems with asian guys do you see? And how can we solve these?
Asian is my flavor. Seriously. Anyone who has met me knows that I crush mad hard on asian men, thought I've never dated one. I would though.

Don't look at it like what are the major problems with asian guys. It doesn't fucking matter if you're white, black, 300 pounds, handicapped.... you just don't accept people not liking you as a possibility and game on. It's all about YOUR mindset... not theirs.
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2) You say making a girl laugh is the best way to pickup. I am not a very funny person in general. How can I learn to be more funny?
Don't be who you aren't... but you can augment what kind of humor you already have. Listen to comedians, take an improv comedy class (SERIOUSLY.) Make yourself more interesting. People watch to figure out how different people are funny in different situations and social circles. Listen to Joshua Pellicer on Maxim Radio. He's very quick with his responses, and they're, generally, pretty fucking funny.
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3) Everyone tells me that confidence is attractive. How do I become more confident? My voice sometimes shakes, my legs shake when I do public speaking...I'm not actually scared...but it's unconscious movements...annoying because my friends tell me it comes off as not confident.


Okay, take a public speaking class. Seriously. Take an acting class. Or make it a point to tell a story to 5 different groups of people every day. Doesn't matter if you get blown out. The way to get through that specific problem is to speak publicly enough that it's second nature for you to be in the spotlight. I'm serious about this one... I'm a professional actor. I KNOW this is the way to solve it.
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4) I am a vet by profession. What do girls think of this? Can this be framed as a DHV?
Hell yeah. You care for the fluffy ones. Girls dig that.
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5) I am not looking so much to get laid YET (Yes, I am a nerd and a virgin still) ...just to make more female friends and friends in general and become more confident with women. I do not have many friends and my social circle is very small. I can open and get numbers very easily, but interest tends to fade by the first or second meeting, and it seems almost as those I piss people off unconsciously...don't know what it is, but I wish I could fix it. I sail competitively, I base-jump illegally, and I am also a part-time hip-hop dance teacher. Funny, I find this stuff cool, but I invite girls to join me, but no one wants to ever come. What are cool activities to do with girls? I guess I am not a very cool person...hmmm.... Oh also, when I ask people to come do something, they inevitably ask 'who's coming'. I just say, "just me"...and they always ask 'where are your friends?' to which I don't know a good response...[I don't actually have any friends I can invite out regularly...I've always liked doing things alone, but I want to change...]. Perhaps the real question is, "How can I be cool"?
"How can I be cool?" SHUT UP. You already are cool. You base jump, you teach hip hop, you're a vet, you sail.... look, girls aren't joining in on this shit because THEY are scared they will look like total idiots. They're asking who will be there to try to ensure they aren't being focused on.

You probably aren't interesting after the first or second meet-up because you have no confidence in yourself. You are cool. These girls are lucky to be hanging out with you, and if they're cool, you're lucky to be enjoying the fine lady's company. The next time you invite a girl to something like that, tell her to bring some friends, or that you're going anyway and she's welcome to come along. No biggie if she doesn't.

Or you could start her off with something a bit less intense, like mini-golf. :)
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6) I suck at conversation. I have too many akward silences. I just don't know what to talk about...like with guys, silence is bonding; but with girls, I just don't know where to move the conversation. Any suggestions would be helpful.
Make a roadmap for yourself. Start with opening... move to some banter and role play... then move to rapport where you share something you do... go into deeper rapport and show that you have emotional depth... dhv story with rapport.... WHATEVER you want. There are a million resources for this question on this site. Do a search.
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7) Whenever I meet a girl, I tend to also make friends with their girlfriend. So I get both their numbers. Then whenever I call one, both come out. Is this because attraction was not enough? OR is it because I am getting both their numbers? It's driving me nuts how girls I'm attracted to bring their girlfriends on dates. What is appropriate in this scenario...should I call them on it? Or just walk off if they bring a friend?


Why are you getting both their numbers????? Next time, isolate your target after befriending the friend.... then close her away from the friend. Period.

Or, make it fun for both of the girls on the date and have a threesome :)
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8 ) I just broke up with a girl who has been my 'girlfriend' for 3.5 years...she gave me handjobs and let me kiss her all over...except touch her down there or have sex. I was just sick of her not putting out...was this the right decision or should I have kept her?
3.5 years?????? OF HANDJOBS??? Man, you made the absolute right choice. You already knew the answer to that question.
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9 ) What would be a good 'reason' to invite a girl to my house after meeting at a bar?
Show her your record collection, watch this kick ass kung foo movie, write a joint article on your blog... WHATEVER. It takes planning and some forethought to do this. Make sure you pick something... like... writing on your blog with her... talk about it that night as a joke or something, get her excited about it, have her imagination go wild, then ask her over for reals, daring that she won't do it because she actually sucks at writing (despite the past 15 minutes of her telling you she's a rockstar writer.) Also, make sure she is comfortable and doesn't ever feel pressure.

Or you could go direct and tell her that she'll be coming home with you that night. Called shot technique.

Thanks very much for your help Zip. I really appreciate it.[/quote]

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wow, i think this post should be made into a book, like sell it on amazon or someting.

I go to high school, im popular but not the big man on campus or anything and there is a girl( whos very popular and knows tons of guys) whos 2 years older than me and i fell for her. I havent talken to her much since the beginning of summer(2 1/2 months ago), i could hang out wit her if i asked her but i dont know what to do then. I know she finds me handsome and funny and cool, but i dont know if shes attracted, im probably in her in her friend zone. how do i make a move on her? hope the best for you :o tankx
Okay, you don't "know" if she's attracted. She is. Just accept that as a fact, no matter what. Now, what you have to do is make it OKAY for her to act on it.

Just ask her out. Period. For something casual that you are going to anyway. See if she wants to tag along. No big deal if she doesn't.

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zip, ur posts have really taught me alot about the way women think. Of course I'm not generalzing here and everyone is different but i'm sure there are universal similarities. I think its interesting that you would play along while a pua runs game on you. Again this tells me alot about women and the way they want their interactions to progress. It would also be hilarious to see you call them out on their routines. anyways I've got a couple quick q's...

1) what's the best way to k-close? are gimmicks acceptable? and none of that "kino, escalate, go for it when it feels right" stuff because its a little vague to me..im having trouble bridging the gap between isolation and k-close
There is no BEST way. gimmicks and gambits are fine. If you're having trouble bridging the gap... I'd just use Mystery's Kiss Close Gambit. We all know it.
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If she says yes, kiss her.

If she says, "Maybe," ''Why?", "What do you mean" or "I donno" it means she does, but is shy about it. Reply with a gleam in your eye, "Let's find out..." *kiss*

Remember to caress the back of her neck to show you mean business.

If she says no, you reply, "Well I didn't say you could, it just looked like you had something on your mind." (Don't ask "Why not?" This shows low self-esteem.)
If she says, "not yet" or "not here" it means she is open to it but there is a logistical issue. Perhaps her friends are nearby, or she needs more gaming first. Say, "I understand," and continue gaming her.

Does it seem as if most of these lines involve asking her for permission in order to kiss her? Is that wimpy? They are just considerations. We've found that just going for the kiss without indicating your intentions can sometimes lead to embarrassment — more than her saying just saying no.

When she says no, that is much easier to save face from than the situation where you try to kiss her and she moves away.

That having been said, feel free to field-test every possible kiss move that you can think of. Just go right in for the kiss without saying a word. If she turns her head, use your hand to turn it back and kiss her anyway. Test it out a hundred times. Be enthusiastically willing to brainstorm and experiment.
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2) is it DLV to ask a girl where the two of you stand or could she respond well?
In my opinion, yes. If it's too early in the relationship and if things are going well... Don't do it. Communication of this sort should really only happen if you need to clear things up.
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3) is a kiss on the cheek an IOI or not? i know context is important for this question but i don't want to bore you with quite a long story
YES, as long as you're not related, and it's not a European greeting (kiss kiss on the cheek.) Even if she's just experimenting for herself, it's a IOI.

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post 999 :( maybe i should post again.
my question is about letting a girl down softely.
this girl i met got my number then i got hers but she said call me tomorow. now she is 10+ years older than me, and i didnt really find anything different about her, so is there a way of not continuing, but not being an ahole by not calling/texting?
Just tell her the truth. You're not interested, but you think she's a great gal. There is no letting her down softly. You let her down, period. Man up, and deal with it. You led her on by giving her your number.

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forgot to say. POST 1000
congrats, wheres the party ;)
thanks. in my pants. :)

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Ha, thanks for the answer zip, i know you're busy. And so basically it just comes down to escalation. Which makes sense. Sorry for the dumbass question :) Thats kinda obvious in retrospect... I guess it just means i have to take charge a little more and get out of the comfort zone because they (girls) are less primed to consider me "do-able" or view me as a potential partner? or am i off base? Again, i honestly appreciate you're taking time to listen to my questions other random shit.


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Ha, thanks for the answer zip, i know you're busy. And so basically it just comes down to escalation. Which makes sense. Sorry for the dumbass question :) Thats kinda obvious in retrospect... I guess it just means i have to take charge a little more and get out of the comfort zone because they (girls) are less primed to consider me "do-able" or view me as a potential partner? or am i off base? Again, i honestly appreciate you're taking time to listen to my questions other random shit.
no problem, sir!

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no problem, sir!

Gentlemen, this leads me to another issue: if you've found this thread helpful or not helpful, please take a minute to vote, either click the stars on the top of the thread, or feel free (if you'd like to comment) to personally affect my reputation (under my avatar, on the left of this message should be a plus or minus sign next to the word "reputation")

Please be honest and let me know how I can assist you Smile
I would, but you skipped my question on the last page :cry:


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Asian is my flavor. Seriously. Anyone who has met me knows that I crush mad hard on asian men, thought I've never dated one. I would though.
YESSSS! :lol:

My question has to do with sorority girls. From your experience, were sorority girls more likely to date and hook up with fraternity boys, GDIs (God Damn Independents), or did it not seem to make a difference?


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Thanks zip for the quick reply! Love the responses. I have booked a improv class for next month.

I don't have much confidence with women, because I've never had any real success with women other than random makeouts. Success breeds confidence, and well, I'm still a virgin at age 24 =(

Anyway, I learnt that being nervous can be an advantage because it totally lets me slip under the radar.

I have a few further questions.

a) What's one or two openers for day-game that has worked on you when you were alone?

b) My default opener is currently "Hi, I saw you walking by and I just had to come over and say you look fabulous/cute/gorgeous", then launch into general chit-chat. Then ask what they are doing later, and ask them to a party or coffee.

This opener does not work for me at all with multiple girls/guys in set during the day. Do you have any suggestions what I should try instead during the day in two or more people sets?

c) As soon as I (or any guy really) opens their mouth to a new set with or without previous eye contact, is it generally obvious to women that no matter what I am saying that I am trying to hit on them?

d) Whenever I'm with a lovely blonde Aussie lady chatting or making out or whatever, because I'm asian, drunk (sometimes racist) guys try to AMOG me (and being in Sydney, they are all bigger than me). I can't figure out a way to solve this, but yeah I am scared sometimes one of them will punch me. Sometimes I insta-befriend some Aussie guys at bars who are huge (I found the secret to this is buy them a beer or two and shout them a game of pool), so they deal with the AMOGs for me. I also introduce some of my lady friends and chit-chat to the bouncers so I can befriend them easily. But this is not always possible, especially when there are like 10 horny guys and 1 girl in an empty bar; and that 1 girl is sitting with me.

I never think of it at the time, but perhaps it's a good time to ask the lady back to my place?

I sometimes wonder, is the threat of being bashed at a bar just in my head, or does it actually happen :D


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no problem, sir!

Gentlemen, this leads me to another issue: if you've found this thread helpful or not helpful, please take a minute to vote, either click the stars on the top of the thread, or feel free (if you'd like to comment) to personally affect my reputation (under my avatar, on the left of this message should be a plus or minus sign next to the word "reputation")

Please be honest and let me know how I can assist you Smile
I would, but you skipped my question on the last page :cry:
Oh, poo. honest mistake. Now, stop sulking and would you mind reposting it so I can get it answered for you? :)

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