I went traveling over the weekend, from ny to nj and penn. I found myself a lot more confident away from home so i did my first sarge.

I was with a group of family friends around my age 17-18. we were walking around town. they went into a bookstore looking for a bathroom. I sat by the entrance and noticed the cashier hb8, maybe a year or two older than me. I think I messed up the 3 second rule. I saw her, then went to flip through a few books that were on display (timing my approach for when theres no one on line and so that my friends would come out and we'd leave)

so I walk up to her and I'm like
me: hey...could you tell me wat state I'm in? I fell asleep on the car ride here.
her: hmm? oh *laughs you're in new jersey
me: oh eww ny is so much better...
her:... *1-2sec pause
at this point my friends have left and walking down the street
me: oh do you know of any place around here where I can get a drink or snack? like starbucks or anything?
her: oh yeah, theres a starbucks down the street on the left... like on this side * motions with hand
me: oh alright thanks
* turn and startwalking, stopped a bitturned back waved and. said have a nice day.

any comments or suggestions?

the pause and bye a bit uncomfortable.

I had stuff to say/ask, didn't know what would be good. in retrospect I see a lot of stuff I could have done. like motion with my hands when she gave me directions and say oh yeah? just go down this way? idk why I can't come up with good stuff during the interactions but can a few min later.

man, you had such a great original opener! unfortunately, you probably shouldn't have negged jersey like that off the bat. you could have talked about interesting places to visit, or where to find good food at. i mean obviously you did that, but only after the awkward neg. you even could have DHV'd by talking about anything crazy that happened during your travels with your friends! keep at it. congratulations on your first sarge!

Hey man just keep trying dude. congrats on the sarge. that bitch was probably in the business mode. something ive noticed is girls that are working try to keep their distance more than other girls. remember the basics, they are everything. smile at first, lead convo, and neg a Little later. I maybe would have started convo about a book or some shit. then look for flaws about Her not the state, and show how you love fun. Girls these days are looking for fun, especially if she is working some random job and meets someone who makes her day interesting.

Well done, i think its very good that you plucked up the courage to speak to a nice looking girl. . . Even though its small talk with a girl in a shop thats gonna go no were but its getting you practice.

I like going up to randomers in the street and asking for movie recommendations/where do i buy a decent pair of jeans... just to scratch up on my body language, analyse theres and also just to pick up a conversation.

Next time you could say to a HB that she looks cute in her uniform...

awesome stuff man. I'd take solace in the fact that you went out there and gave it a shot. Try to take that confidence home with you!

I also agree that the state neg was perhaps too quick, but i still liked it. You could have followed it up with a bookstore-specific comment say like,

"even our bookstores in NY are better than this one" [cocky ass smile on face] "but hey, we can't all live in NY, eh?"

depending on the reaction I would either let her respond or if she looks like she wasnt down with what you said (she must love her state or something) follow up QUICK with some sort of more neutral comment to build rapport with her. I think the 90-10 principle is pretty good, where as long as you are saying something and not coming off like a dick you are generally in neutral to positive standing.

anyway, good work

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thanks. good tips.
I didn't even realize the state bit was a neg. is it against neg etiquette to neg something instead of the girl? it seems that negging the state was not a great move.

I'm back home now and at school but I often walk around the campus of a nearby college so that'll probably be where I'll be sarging. I'll come back here and post the experience but before I head out are there any tips for sarging college students as a senior in highschool? the age difference and independnce they have is a little intimidating to say the least.
as a highschool student, it seems that I could ask college girls a lot about their college experience. im actually genuinely interested in this as a senior but would it be too interview like and boring?

just remember. its not lying. its flirting.
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and just be youself. very nice opener btw. i like it. but i agree with the fact she was probably in the work mood so she didnt really feel like talking but you could def brighten up her day by being interesting and funny.
keep at it my friend.
-GL

The new jersey comment wasn't a neg, it was an insult. It comes across like 'oh so you're one of those people.'

tbh, workers are only good for practice, however if they are in your town be nice. I always ask how they're doing, whether they have to work for the whole weekend etc. Some of them have delved into their day in great detail, others are polite.

It's only interview/boring if you make it. Just tell them you're trying to decide which college is best for you. Ask their opinions, maybe even ask for a personal tour if things are going well. If they look fun, you could even ask what the social scene is like.