what are some good openers for noisy clubs?

the thing i find difficult with openning dancing sets at clubs is that it always comes weird if you open with an opinion opener or with a story or any kind of these openers!!

i would say:"who cares"
who cars about this fight outside,who cares about your date' who cares about your friends girlfriend or who fucking cares about you neibor's grandma(or i dont know what)????

now let's calm down............................................
now im calm.
what openers do you find best to open sets at clubs...dancing people...any kind of set.it's a little hard to speak with the loud musicwich is another problem...

i belive both in direct and indirect but a lot more in the indirect!

so basicaly what i wanted to say is please give me the openers you use in clubs,also the kind of ones i underastamated in, and other types !!!
help me pick up girls in the club

topaz

oh btw there is this opener of david d: the second simplest after hii ; "dont touch me"...
but the problems with these openers is to follow up!

whatever,doesnt matter...umm help me with club openers, it's very important for me.

~~~topazio שלי~~~

i need some good club opener too , i try some of the usual openers and they works well only to girls with which i made eye contact and they give me some ioi ... PLS post some good club opener .... thanks

SHOES!!!!! guys SHOES!!!!!

I don't know how many of you know this but HBs especially 9's and 10's LOVE shoes.
This opener will work anywhere girls dress to impress, and therefore works great at clubs and big social gatherings.

There are several ways of saying the question or opener. I like

PUA: Hey me and my friend where just having this discussion, so before I get back to him i would like your opinion. I say that shoes make the person and the outfit. He says they are just shoes. Which one is it?

You can also just compliment on the girls shoes (which also works nicely) and following it with another thread or the one above.

PUA: by the way those are some kick ass shoes, don't tell me (of corse not very many guys know) those are pumps right?

If your right- I thought so my one of my previous girlfriends would shop for shoes all the time.

If your wrong she will let you know- Well i was kinda close.

and on to the next thread.

you mean to concentrate my opener on her clothes .......
that may be good . .. . i will test it next night in the club but anyway if someone have some opener with good % success pls to share with us .

im interested in such openers as well, the kind that doesnt really ask about the fight outside, the problem my friend is having with his date, etc.

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Man best thing is just scream something like WOOOO! she looks at you - HI5! now - if she hangs on to your hand its an IOI. if she dances with you IOI. man then say something to her that you know she can not hear - make sure she is looking at you. shell go - what!? - take her hand and walk her to the bar or outside for a smoke. get her to buy you a drink or giv you a smoke. when she asks what you said - just say something like - you dance better than my cat! make sure you neg her.
V1V
If she dont hold on to your hand then still follow the same routine. if she doesnt dance with you then fuck her. go somewhere else.
V1V

So I go up to this 5 set and try the opinion opener on them. As soon as I say "can I get your opinion" on something, a HB9 goes "Have you heard of the Game by Neil Strauss". I of course say no, but my whole plan is shot. Is there anything I can say to that?

duh.... you can say you know EVERYTHING about him. that you study social dynamics etc and thats its all so interesting! and you can ask her how she knows... pff i could talk for hours with a girl like that

Change the no to a yes.

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my best opener in loud clubs is without words. i just stand at a "safe" distance and make some gesture like "what is wrong with you girl" and talk in the air (even though they cant hear it).
if you can present that in a high value way (so without lowering your value by doing something stupid like afc's do: leaning in or looking nervous), you usually get a good response... they will come to you with "what??" and then you start the convo about anything you want...

if you are up for more direct game, you can point to yourself instead with the gesture-opener.. and then later say "first impression?".... with a sly smile afterwards to show that you know they are going to give you lots of compliments since your first impression is so great....

i generally search for dancing 2-sets if im on the floor. two chicks dncing together, give off the vibe that they're closed and dont want anyone in there. i just walk up and ask why there are no guys dancing with them then about 2 seconds later im grinding holes in one of their jeans. i have to say though if you want this to go anywhere you have to either be very good at handling a target and an obstacle (unless you're trying to nail both :p), or you go in with a wing who is equally comfortable dancing with the other chick, hot or not. this i find always works, atleast just for a dance, if not more.

my last wing i tried to teach this too just danced beside the obstacle, which eventually blocked him out. he then aborted the set, the obstacle then left with my target!

Dirty dancing man! get with that shit! lol.

got to second with her during the one song i was with her, Success!

i like sky007's approach.

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are you serious this has happend to you????
has she read the game or something?!?!?!

you know what this makes me think...how does style or mystery pick up chicks if some know them?!?!?

btw i live in israel so ive never heard about a guy or a girl that know about these stuff...
but anyways, what would be your guess about the presentage of the girls in the US that know about pick up; that know one or two names,that have heard about 3 or 4 pick up lines...how many??

ok i understand that half of the players use opinion openers in club , but there must be a good direct opener ( neg opener) that isn't connect with opinion and with some thigs like is your hear real or is your nails real and so on ........ Can someone post a good opener that goes nicely with HB8+