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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:44 am 
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Dear Adam,

I absolutely love your methods. They are by far the best pua methods ever founded!

Ive watched all your videos and stole as much information on your theories as possible! You come across as such a calculated bastard! I love it! Most of the time it looks like your not even having fun more like your trying to control the situation. When I watch your interviews it looks like your smiles are calculated and fake ( not saying its a bad thing but is it true?)

I love the way you market your self as the guy that was " voted least likely to have a girlfriend in school" a great sob story! It gets the fishes jumping at your hooks!


Your incredibly intelligent and I admire you for that , my main question is after you read the game what did you do next... I know you said you never used m3 model...so how did you start to learn? whos books did you read? what did you practice in your first few months?

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Hey Adam,

I am still pretty new to pick-up. I've been using what I've learned to meet a lot of new women and hook-up with a few but I have never really been in a LTR. There is a girl that I met a while ago but only saw a few times over the year that I think would make a great girlfriend but Im not really sure what to do to get her to go on more dates with me and eventually be my girlfriend. I was just wondering how you would approach something like this.
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Jax

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Dear Adam,

Congratulations on the success of this thread! It is garnering quite a bit of attention both on these forums and on the net in general. (Google in particular seems to have a fondness for this thread.)

Here is the question. I recently heard you mention the importance of maintaining a close circle of female friends. I too have a small circle of women whom I consider friends and confidants, and would very much like to keep many of them that way for a long time.

Unfortunately, some of these friend scenarios are not stable in nature: for example, the girl or woman may have feelings for me and want me to escalate the friendship to a romantic courtship. I read your earlier post regarding the girl whom you befriended but never kissed, breaking her heart in the process, and I would very much like to avoid similar situations with my female friends.

How do you maintain your friendships with the opposite sex without hurting their feelings and without cutting out the flirty, charming part of your personality around them? All women are sexual in nature---more so than us men, and a statement of LJBF is as cruel to them as it is to us. Please enlighten us on how to approach this in a diplomatic and humane manner.

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Hi Adam

Being a newbie, I am a little overwhealmed with all the info on the site as there is soooo much cool stuff to read and its a bit heavy as you keep reading and reading.

So my question is, what would your absolute top 3 tips be for a newbie starting out in the field again to concentrate on?

Cheers

Mike


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Dear Hobbit.

not called Pogo routine, but yeah something I worked out back in 2006.

Esseially you build up massive amounts of social proof by pre-opening a club before using openers.

Basically bumping past people asking them where the bathroom is, or if the club gets any busier, or with compliment openers. But not staying in set for more than 20 secs...then when you open them afterwards....

it's always warm, because they remember you from before.

AFC Adam


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Dear AZ

ok am more awake now hahaha.

First off.

Do the bar thing.

DOn't worry about BYOB because they have to buy their own drinks at a bar, and organising the trip will be enogh of a DHV do it at happy hour...it's cheap.. some even have free drinks for ladies...you may be able to sort if if you talk to the bar in advance.

Secondly don't worry about ugs in your school. if you do it right you'll get the hoties or can use the social proof from the girls you bring to get locals.

oh in campus it's even easier...if you get talking to everyone you meet over a period of time, due tot he small confines of campus you end up knowing everyone. I was social proofed on my GF's campus after 2 weeks.

Campus cafeteria, library etc...just a few quick exchanges and name swop and you're in!

I wouldn't day game a group of girls down the street on campus...in case it backfired...too tight a community.

Easy to social proof...easy to negative social proof.

The real puzzle for you is to actually set up the event..see it fail, and then set up 4 more...so that eventually when it sticks you understand.

my first 2 months of parties flopped...then it got good...real good.
No probs at all,

and thanks for the props.

Adam,


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Dear Slight,

Thanks for the props.

Actually you aren't the first person to ask me this.

Allow me to break something down for you. If you'er familiar with game theory this will make ALOT of sense. Essentially imagine every situation you go into you aim to help the other person. Not to gain anything other than being nice yourself. Then typically the other person will want to help you. If they don't then you can take matters further if you want...

but by starting every interaction in a positive way you give it the best chance of success.

So believe it or not..it's real. I'm a happy smiley chappy...but I do have a mean temper if it gets lost...

So I suppose my default is happy and smiley. hence coming across that way. It wasn't natural to me...it was something I had to learn.

Just try and make a point of actively being nice to people around you.


If you want more info on this let me know.

AFC Adam,


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Dear Jax,

Believe it or not LTR's are easy...simply invest in them. take the time to drop her a message and ask how her days going.

spend some real time with her and see how you get on...you never know maybe she wouldn't actually be suited to a relationship....

Hang out more often and find out.

Hope that helps if you need more info, let me know

AFC Adam


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Dear Roads,

Thankyou ever so much I really appreciate what you wrote i read it after replying to like a whole bunch of respponses in this thread and thinking...bloody hell this has got hectic.

Yet your one response made it worth it like you won't believe.
:)

Ok I actually wrote an Entire ebook on how to sleep with them and keep them happy but not how to NOT sleep with them hahaha.

Ok so...the best thing you can do is to actually make it clear that you're no good for them.

Tell them outright you're not the setling down type, and you view them as a sister...if they feel you would think it was wrong for you to sleep with them they'd be cool with it.

Think back to the excuses girls give us and you'll be hiting the nail on the head.

Hope this helps

AFC Adam,


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Dear mikeyb10supra

3 tips coming up, you ready?

1) Find a basic opening line or opinion opener...ask 100 people the line.
2) make at least a group of 4 female friends who you do not hit on. use them for material and topics to talk to other girls
3) Don't chase bad sets, instead go out and do another bunch of fresh approaches.

Once you have this experience under your belt use the forums, and websites to find help with the specific sticking points you've developed.

AFC Adam,


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Hey Adam, I don't want to hijack your thread because what you are doing here is awesome, but I did want to offer some feedback on your response to Roads....
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Dear Roads,

Thankyou ever so much I really appreciate what you wrote i read it after replying to like a whole bunch of respponses in this thread and thinking...bloody hell this has got hectic.

Yet your one response made it worth it like you won't believe.
:)

Ok I actually wrote an Entire ebook on how to sleep with them and keep them happy but not how to NOT sleep with them hahaha.

Ok so...the best thing you can do is to actually make it clear that you're no good for them.

Tell them outright you're not the setling down type, and you view them as a sister...if they feel you would think it was wrong for you to sleep with them they'd be cool with it.

Think back to the excuses girls give us and you'll be hiting the nail on the head.

Hope this helps

AFC Adam,

In my personal experience, I have been that girl that wanted to be more than friends with a long time buddy and when he acted like he would be horrible for me, it didnt stop me from liking him. Maybe it was just me and I could see through his words and realized he just didn't feel the same way...but he pretty much did the same thing you said and it didnt actually stop my feelings for him, just stopped me from showing them more. Love your advice, but I just wanted to share this small personal experience that differs a little from what you said.


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ive got a small question. is it possible to recover from not kissing.
i was out with a friend and met a 2set. my mate wouldnt dance with the girl so while my target and i danced and shouldve kissed many times the other girl was just standing there or sitting.. looking bored as hell. is there a way to get her to dance.

i allready told my mate he is an **** for ruining my chances

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Hey thanks alot of responding, it means alot me to me.

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Dear Bonita21

Actually I appreciate the insight. It's this kind of stuff the guys should be listening too as it's where alot of my best stuff has come from, out of the mouths of babes.

I agree completely that it won't stop the liking...only provide a valid reason as to why you won't do anything.

It goes the same way with girls telling guys and the guy still likes her. Though the irony is that no matter what a girl says to a guy short of F - Off her'll normally still like her.

And vice versa.

We're a stubborn race.

AFC Adam,


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Dear MattJacks

I as kinda trying to work out if you where asking whether you could recover from not kissing, or a make a girl dance who doesn't want to.

So I'll answer both and hope I get it correct.

ok to make the girl dance simply pull her up to her friend and dance with both...though this will stop your ability to dance with them

Now

To recover from not kissing siply move her to another area later on and rebuild the sexual escalation into a kiss...ideally in isolation from her friend, so it becomes irrelevant if your friend walks off and leaves her alone, as she won't be able to find you.

AFC Adam


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