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What do you think of Ulysses
Ulysses the PUA, Ulysses from the Odyssey, the novel by James Joyce, or Ulysses S. Grant?

And this better have a point.

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I meant the book but looking back the question had little value
A friend once compared the book to woman, in that its confusing at first but after a while a strange logic emerges.

here's a better question.

what do girls think of the Dandy character? and do you think the novelty of Dandyism is wearing thin?


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what do you do when your talking to a two or three set and the targets friend starts to pull down her state while you are gaming her or trying to pump buying temperature?

this happened last night and was a total distraction on all parts.....
how do you deal with an inimpressed friend? namely a girl at this point.....

Ah, this is where the handy dandy wing comes in handy...

First of all... check your behavior. Are you coming across like a dick to the obstacle? Are you negging the target too hard? Are you coming across as needy? Something you're doing is triggering this response in the friend.

But, back to techniques: (if you're going at it alone)

there are several ways to deal with an unimpressed obstacle... you either satiate them, distract them, or isolate away from them.

1.) Satiate: You can give them what they want. Directly acknowledge that she's not impressed by you, and what's up (in a fun, playful way.) Don't buy her a drink or try to WIN her over, tell her a really nice DHV story (don't forget about your target) to show her that you're a humane, caring, bad ass who saves kittens from trees and makes the ladies swoon.

2.) Distract: Get the obstacle away from the set. Nasty bitches are only as powerful as their social circle. Escort her over to a guy you opened earlier in the night from another set, and set them up. Or, make up a game for the set to play, where they have to scavenger hunt through the bar, separately (of course, you'd stick with the target.) Do a bar trick you know you'll win, and make her go get you a drink as a consolation prize.

3.) Isolate: Get your target away from the obstacle. Your ability to do this should be a direct result of your comfort level in your own skin, and your ability to come across as non-threatening yet exciting.

Again, I stress, the real issue is what did you do to make the friend unimpressed? Bad body language, nasty attitude towards something, neediness, etc.
no last few times i can honestly say that i was really positive....high energy....funny......because i had the target laughing and attracted......then the friend either kills my state....her state.....or grabs her and walks away....
thanks for the suggestions though.....isolating or seperating the two shouldn't be that hard after the critical buying temp is there i hope~!


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Zip, is there any particular reason why women never approach me?
Not that I'm like insecure or have troubles approaching and fucking women, but it'd be nice to be approached once? ya know? Could intimidation be a possibility?

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Hey Zip,

I PMed you only because, at the time, I could not find your advice thread. Here's the issue: I have a couple girl friends that want to go out sarging with me as a female wing. I have never sarged with a pivot before.

1. What do they need to know before I can take them out?
2. How do I go about training them so they can be the most effective?
3. What are some good strategies that will take advantage of their gender?


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Thanks, Zip I appreciate your reply. I think i'm more interested in an authentic conversation, so i'll stick with direct game, as you call it. Also, i'm wondering what you think of Juggler Method, would you rather interact with a guy utilizing that style or a more routine based strategy. Also, i'm assuming if you walk by a bunch of chicks looking at sex advice and they start laughing nervously, one can go ahead and start a conversation with something along the lines of "learned something new?" Its happened to me a couple times, but i haven't had the guts to approach... And if there's anyway i reciprocate let me know cause your doing alot for all us noobs. Thanks again


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I meant the book but looking back the question had little value
A friend once compared the book to woman, in that its confusing at first but after a while a strange logic emerges.

here's a better question.

what do girls think of the Dandy character? and do you think the novelty of Dandyism is wearing thin?
Seeing as I am a female dandy, NO WAY IN HELL is the novelty of Dandyism wearing thin. The dandy character is amazing. He is elegant and cruel. Possibly more classically beautiful in ways than she. A master of clothing and its effect, consistently out of reach.

Dandys are hot.

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Zip, is there any particular reason why women never approach me?
Not that I'm like insecure or have troubles approaching and fucking women, but it'd be nice to be approached once? ya know? Could intimidation be a possibility?
Without really knowing you, i can't say. Women are generally not going to approach anyone unless they are a special fantastic kind of lady, and those are rare.

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Hey Zip,

I PMed you only because, at the time, I could not find your advice thread. Here's the issue: I have a couple girl friends that want to go out sarging with me as a female wing. I have never sarged with a pivot before.

1. What do they need to know before I can take them out?
2. How do I go about training them so they can be the most effective?
3. What are some good strategies that will take advantage of their gender?
I sent you a PM that basically said: Your female pivot is there to make you look good. To provide you SP.

Your wing is there to aide you and compliment whatever routines/game plan you're running as well as distract obstacles.

A wingwoman is all of those things combined, plus AMOG pacification.

As far as training, it's just about having her as familiar with what you're going to run in the club/bar/bookstore. It's about getting to know each other, to have routines and patters that you fall back on.

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Thanks, Zip I appreciate your reply. I think i'm more interested in an authentic conversation, so i'll stick with direct game, as you call it. Also, i'm wondering what you think of Juggler Method, would you rather interact with a guy utilizing that style or a more routine based strategy. Also, i'm assuming if you walk by a bunch of chicks looking at sex advice and they start laughing nervously, one can go ahead and start a conversation with something along the lines of "learned something new?" Its happened to me a couple times, but i haven't had the guts to approach... And if there's anyway i reciprocate let me know cause your doing alot for all us noobs. Thanks again
Juggler method is fine. Any method is fine. It's not about the method, it's about what works for individual guys. Personally, I like natural game just because I can tell where routine based things are going. Not that I don't enjoy it, if it's very well done.

YES that is a fantastic way to open. Don't ever let that situation happen again and you not open them. Just make sure you don't come across as creepy. You come across as non-threatening and fun.

As far as reciprocation :)

Visit my blog: Http://www.zipsdirtylaundry.com

It's got some pretty good scandalous stories from my past, some random stuff, some good theories and some great articles of mine. Check it often, for I update it whenever i get a free second.

Read the cufflinks trilogy and let me know what you think.

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Read the cufflinks trilogy and let me know what you think.
A masterpiece of modern seduction, a love story for the ages. Sort of like Romeo and Juliet, except with Cufflinks and Ms. Ham Radio Operator.

To quote Paris Hilton, that's hot. :oops:

Questions:

1) Ever pivot or coach guys on how to approach really shy girls? You know, the ones that are so socially awkward that starting a conversation with them feels like pushing a boulder up a mountain. Top 3 tips for this situation?

2) When is it ever OK to say "I don't know" to a girl. Just between you and me, they don't seem to like hearing those three words very often from a man.

3) Did you hear about the New York subway romance that failed? Read it here:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080729/od_nm/subway_dc

I think the guy's a total AFC. You should coach him.

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Re: Cufflinks trilogy. Chemistry for the win, lawlz. I wish my life was that exciting. Really i do. i've added several things to my to do list, namely a driver and a fake id. Figure the chicks dig it :) The posts actually segued nicely in to my next question. How do you go about being a good kisser? Or do you just make like a mirror and copy? And, lately girls have been flaking on me, like
Me: Lets go to a movie
her: ok, cool sounds good.
day before her: i promised i'd see blah blah with friends sorry! Raincheck?

its pissing me off. like 3 girls have done similar things. Sighhhh.


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Hey Zip! Wanted to make a new topic for this question but I figure your the perfect person to answer this question. A while ago I was sitting with some people around the table, having a good time. It was a camp and noone really knew each other very well, except for these two girls who came together. At one point during the conversation they started laughing about some inside joke and next thing we knew, they got all caught up in their own world, just laughing away as everyone else watched bewildered, like they didn't know what to say anymore.

So is there any way to break this "inside joke bareers"? It could happen when sarging and I have no idea how to react to them

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zip,
firstly, you rock.


secondly,
what do you think the world would be like if the world went sadie-hawkins on us? do you think women would have as much trouble sarging men as most men are having right now? (we know you wouldn't have much to worry about :wink: )



and finally, boxers, briefs, or personally decorated whitey tighties? :lol:


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Hello Zip, i appreciated your reply.

Kiss closing question:

What do you think is the most effective way of going about a k-close? Mystery's "would you like to kiss me?" TD's "when you had your eyes closed did you think i was going to kiss you?" etc....whatever you think is best.

Second question:

I fucked up yet again on a k-close...in comfort for 45 min...saw IOIs...yet i felt simply incongruent as hell being in the middle of a conversation and saying suddenly "do you want to kiss me?" Wouldn't that seem ODD/weird/and put you in a "uhhh, where the fuck did that come from" kind of reaction?

I'm pretty damn sure i could have, but you miss 100% of the shots you dont take, so now i won't know for sure.

Thank you for reading !


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