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hey man ...it's interesting that your involved in NLP and apply it to situations outside an office. Few questions on my mind regarding NLP.

One: I've stuttered since i was 4....the act of blocking or repeating "m m m milk" has obviously become a STROOONNGGG negative anchor in my mind. Since i've read about reframing beliefs/anchors....i'm wondering if NLP would actually work with something as solidified as stuttering. This is something that has ruled my life in a sense....if i'm more fluent my day will be awesome...if i'm not ..my day will be miserable. So it is a STRONG anchor in my mind, do you think that something this subconscious/ingrained can possibly ever be "reframed" by an NLP expert?

Two: How exactly do you apply rapport enchancing NLP techniques in every day conversation. I've read that EACH and EVERY word someone uses can be a huge indicator about that person..if that's true....how do you go about eliciting/reading/assuming information about someone and therefore apply it to enhance a "connection"?

You've said that you constantly use NLP techniques on yourself to enchance inner game....what specifics do you do regarding visualizations, reframing beliefs..etc? Don't you have to simply KNOW/BELIEVE NLP works or does the act itself prove it's validity ?

Thanks you for reading!


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Ok, to everyone on here who has been seeking my advice while I have been away. I apologize for not getting back to you sooner, however I have a bit of time and will be working through the questions in the order they were asked over the course of the next day or 2. Just hold tight, and I will get caught up to the most recent ones soon!


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Here...

Opened strong with a 10, good second meeting, but lost some game when I showed a little too much interest in the last 20 minutes or so, and things seems to take a step back. Fully believe I can get it back, just need some advice on how.

Also, I love that orange tie.
Well if you can get another meeting then just step it back a bit on the interest and keep doing what you were doing that was working for you.


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Alright. heres the deal. I have game, im very polished, im attractive, im confident, im clever. I can get the girls i want, im very good at creating attraction. But i have a huge problem. i CAN NOT go in for the kill. i was lucky enough to run into david deangelo's stuff when i was 14 so ive got the material and the swagger. But since i was that young i took some of it in the wrong way. i thought that you shouldnt show ANY interest at all. And ive had this thought dug into my deep inner game for a long time.

so whenever its crunch time. im alone with the girl, weve been clicking all night, its time for some action. I just cant go for it. I pussy out. When i know its time to make the move i get extremely nervous and even tell myself that i dont want to get it on tonight and try to get out of there as soon as possible. I feel that if i act like i wanna get some shell think thats all i want and reject me. I suppose a fear of rejection is also a factor in this dilema. the worse part about this is I KNOW THATS NOT HOW IT IS. i know that women like being pursued, i know they like it when you show interest. I cant get over this hump. Hell ive had a lot of prospects over the last year. All hot girls that were into me but i just couldnt make that final move. there was a mental wall there. The only girl ive gotten with is my last girlfriend who was very very straight forward with the fact that she liked me and basically told me to ask her out.

So, i need some help. Do you have any advice to get through this mental wall? any exercises or mental checklists for this specific problem? its killing me. I see how much of a pussy im being but i cant help it, its embedded into the bedrock of my personality.
This can be a really tough problem to get over... Honestly I think its just like any other anxiety along the way... the best way to get over it is to just force your self to do it... the first couple of times you do it, it may not be very smooth because your still uncomfortable with it, but soon it will become second nature like all the rest of it.

Usually if you think she wants it... your probably right. Also it may help to think of it this way... What do you have to lose by going for it? If it doesnt work then your in the same spot as if you never tried... You miss 100% of the targets you never shoot at.

Honestly the best advice I think that can be givin for this situation is to think of Nike and "Just Do It!"


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hey man ...it's interesting that your involved in NLP and apply it to situations outside an office. Few questions on my mind regarding NLP.

One: I've stuttered since i was 4....the act of blocking or repeating "m m m milk" has obviously become a STROOONNGGG negative anchor in my mind. Since i've read about reframing beliefs/anchors....i'm wondering if NLP would actually work with something as solidified as stuttering. This is something that has ruled my life in a sense....if i'm more fluent my day will be awesome...if i'm not ..my day will be miserable. So it is a STRONG anchor in my mind, do you think that something this subconscious/ingrained can possibly ever be "reframed" by an NLP expert?

Two: How exactly do you apply rapport enchancing NLP techniques in every day conversation. I've read that EACH and EVERY word someone uses can be a huge indicator about that person..if that's true....how do you go about eliciting/reading/assuming information about someone and therefore apply it to enhance a "connection"?

You've said that you constantly use NLP techniques on yourself to enchance inner game....what specifics do you do regarding visualizations, reframing beliefs..etc? Don't you have to simply KNOW/BELIEVE NLP works or does the act itself prove it's validity ?

Thanks you for reading!
Yes I definatly believe that NLP if used properly could help with stuttering.

You see we have been taught our whole lives that change takes time... but thats simply not true, change happens in an instant... a smoker quits smoking in that insant when he puts down his last cigarette... It's the preparation for change that can take time.

The great thing about NLP is it has the potential to speed up that preparation process dramatically.


The things that I do in my everyday conversation, are primarily Pacing, Leading and Conditioning... I control my tone, vocal pace and energy level to create the emphasis I'm looking for... Once I've build some rapport I Lead thier tone, vocal pace and energy level. Also I condition them by using specific words with specific emphasis continually throughout the conversation to embed certain ideas in the thoughts.


Most of what I use consitantly on myself is conditioning, to help myself maintain and use productive states of mind... I also use anchors that I have set on myself to 'snap' into certain emotional frames.


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hey thanks for your response. How exactly do you use emphasis/embedded commands? If i have rapport with a girl and i want things to start getting sexual or i'm giving off a sexual state, how best can i get her mind rolling as well? For example this one girl i know was in a sexual state(b/c we always have a sexual vibe between us) but idk....she has a bf...we aren't really good friends...i think we just see each other as sexual objects.

In my AFC days i fucked up by going after her tits non stop, so i'm sure that's why she even plays a little hard to get. How can i escalate this by getting her completely aroused using NLP? But even more importantly....if i want a conversation to go more personal = more rapport but dont want to flat out say "tell me about your childhood?" How can i embed a desire to lower defenses and be more open at a faster pace?

I didn't know what you ment by conditioning so i looked it up....basically wut i got from it was by doing something 21 times/ or for 21 days...it becomes ingrained into your subconscious. What types of conditioning have you done/are working on? Also do you know good websites/ideas as to beneficial conditioning to become a better person? I started to read a lot a few months back and now i can literally read ALL day long and enjoy it. I'm not sure if this is an example of conditioning, but it has become something i love doing. Thanks for reading!


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ok-need-to-put-her-in-her-place-nicely--vt23141.html


It's long, so if you don't have the time - but it's just a question on how to word a text message ;)


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weird i just stumbled upon this post and thats exactly what I needed! thanks!

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My friend has had a couple long term relationships. He told me that girls dont like it when you kiss them on the first date. I always do cause I build enough comfort before then, but I have never had a long term relationship before. does how soon your first kiss come affect the future of the relationship?

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My friend has had a couple long term relationships. He told me that girls dont like it when you kiss them on the first date. I always do cause I build enough comfort before then, but I have never had a long term relationship before. does how soon your first kiss come affect the future of the relationship?

it shouldn't.

unless you did it at an inopportune time or intoxicated state.


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Easy room (people),
Been doing the research read the Game and after finally coming over some depressing moments in my life decided to get this game started.

Il explain my situation, firstly I am 22 asian(indian) from the UK, just wanna enhance my chances you know,I am well educated hold a good job, but all the women I have slept with in the past have all been friends first kinda like via another mate, I mean ive had my fair share but never felt like I earned it if that makes sense as being at university its pretty easy all the time, finally ended a relationship in March, now wanna go out there meet some new ladies, but dont seem to know what to say or what to do, like meeting em in a mall or something kinda grow shy of the fact they with their mates im with one guy etc etc. I need some openers some routines some kinda guidance, I got no problem with my own methods just take so god dam long or normally end up in the LJBF dept.

I duno maybe im paranoid but being asian for some strange reason i automatically assume I must game asian women though the hotter women where im from are all white (no racism intended) I wanna go upto them but have no idea what to say too scared and think she will just give me the whole Im busy routine or she will just walk straight past me.

so people people people A brother needs help routines, openers, do's and dont's, overcoming fear??? maybe in malls, parks, the standard shops i see em but freeze never have the guts, how do i overcome groups of hot women?? also anyone know any good operners/routines in bars etc.......

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Hey doc !

I may need advice ... My question is a post : ![url]the-make-or-break-day-need-advice-vt24651.html

Thanks for your advices man, you are a real Bible


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hey my man i have only one question for now is at what-next-vt24661.html.

Thanks doc


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I am sorry if u have already answered this doctor. but i am new here and i really need help with this one girl.Well let me begin, I used to work with this girl i love and she had a bf then. And we somehow we started behaving more like a couple and saw one another every other day we even went on trips together and yes everything till the point she told me she loved me and tried to break up with her bf. But it failed and I had to leave the job to go elsewhere and then a month after i left she broke up with him and now she is feeling very void of feelings tts wad she tells me, and its been a month since the break up. I need advice on what steps should i take to make her want to be with me officially. Should I call her often? should I tell her how I feel about her and all? how do I divert her thoughts away from her ex-bf and direct it to me? I really would appreciate yr help very much as this is someone I am really serious about.Thank you in advance


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Hey Doc, this is the thing, I went to GAP to buy a jacket for my sister, shes 3 yrs old. So im in the baby Gap lol, and I see this really HOT/CUTE chic, HB 8. I wanted to really talk to her, so I went upto her and started talking, she started helping me choose stuff for my sister, and than I liked this jacket, but they didnt had my sisters size, so she went all the way up and down around the whole store looking for it but no luck. In the the meanwhile I was throwing some jokes, making eye-contact, but in the end, she told me that there might be new stuff coming, so that gives me another chance to see her. We talked a little, good little convo.

So I was staring at the jacket, she was standing there looking at me, I had no clue what to say, so we just stood there for 2-3 minutes, and I ended up with saying "oh ok, If i need help with anything ill let u know " she says ok and leaves.

I mean WTF was I thinking when I said that.

Now the thing is, Sauce-Head wrote a whole paragraph about working on girls who are employees at the store. But I lost it.

The thing is, maybe she was being extra nice because its their job.

But im going there again to get the jacket for my sister, lol so what should I do this time, any ideas, please help


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