I feel like shit SPAM god knows why but i have this problem where i get too obsessed with 1 girl and pinning my hopes on her, luckily i dont think most girls find out that im like that but the ones that do are repelled instantly anyway.. to my story hope you enjoy it

i met this girl outside of highschool a couple of times near where my mate lives at first i was a little shy but then i soon ajusted and i was bieng cocky funy whatever u wana call now i went to this carnival and out of the 6 people there i was the life of the party and as u can guess she was there, i had about 5 shots and she had about a sip of campari we were both wernet out of our heads surely? so then things started to kick off she laughed at all of my jokes told me i was cute etc.. lots of hugs hand holding regripping my hand tighter etc.. kiss on the cheek(yeah really lame i know).. then something bad happened i dident get past that she had to go home!! this shudent have been a problem i should have been able to just continue the next day in school talking to her and eventually meeting up and getting with her, but then something worse happened i found out she had a boyfriend, then something even worse hapened my oneitus kicked in then something even worse happened she came online told me she just wanted to stay friends i asked if she wasent with her bf would she want to be with me? i dunno :S i really dont have a clue. her exact words i think. now ive got this oneitus that is keeping me up at nights and messing me up during the day(especially when i see her sitting on her bf lap, shes taller than him wtf? they have been going out 2 weeks ). lovely.

some questions for you geezers reading out there since im a pretty shit pick up artist:
1. do i still have a chance? (yeah this is a stupid question)
2. is there much point in trying to be friends we wernet really friendly at school in the first place just a couple of hellos and stuff
3. how do i get rid of oneitus?
4.i feel like shooting myself is this the solution? lol no that one was a joke but i do seriously feel like crap

my game plan so far:
get a diffrent girlfriend (this ones going to be difficult damn highschool)
talk to her in school kindof friendly(lots of kino) but kick it up a bit when her boyfriends not there.
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sleep with her.. lol(i do want a relationship but it depends what shes like when im with her, if theres much point in trying for her anymore)

ok gotta go school ill tell you how it goes guys.

any advice would be greatly apprieciated

Well you can't blame them for being stupid if they don't have a college education.

Also, you should freeze her out for a bit, and let her see you with other girls. But don't see other girls to impress her, see them because you can and because it's the best way to get over oneitis.

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A lot of people would tell you to go fuck ten other women, but thats not my style. Might be a good idea for you though. Don't bring up th BF when you two hang out and don't do the "If you weren't with him, would you be with me?" (DLV) Not good my man. Just do what it was that you did at the carnival and you should be fine. 2 weeks is nothing to worry about. Highschool girls don't really know good personalities. They go by looks until guys like you come along to open their eyes. As far as getting rid of oneitis, go chat up other girls. Its a double whammy. You DHV yourself to everyone and maybe make your girl a bit jealous. Good luck.

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hey guys its going ok so far i have this other girl intrested in me.. well kindof it sucks at my school coz i have got a bit of a low value but girls do fancy me at the same time wierd huh ? but anyway this girl fancies me but doesent want to admit it to her friends i mite get her friends on my side somehow or get her all alone sumtime. this was from ages ago tho just kicked off again see if i can get anywhere with this. wish me luck .. i had no work experiance at school and i wasent doing enterprise so i decided to hang out in the sixth form block and play shot poker (i was quite drunk by the end of it) long story short cant handle vodka in my system anymore .. jus thought u guys wud be intrested to hear it.

yeah i know thats dlv u can kinda feel it when ure doing it u ethier get a kindof whoosh feeling when something lands thats a dhv and a ugh feeling when its not.. only just thought of that a while ago u guys noticed that?

thanks for all your help so far ill kepp you all updated

keep posting!!!

people lose sleep over a death, not a girl. get a grip.
sound's like she has buyers remorse. if you want anything to work...
i would highly advice you to not ask her any questions. just roll with it and pertend the boyfriend never existed. if she brings up the boyfriend just have a, "<---- carepolice. moving on..." attitude. keep using kino when you meet her.

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hey its not my fault i went so wierd.. well it was but i couldent help it i kept telling myself to get a grip and i would start doing something to get my mind off it then i would fall back into the same downward spiral 10 miunits later.

yeah i figured out like a month ago im a sex addict :S kindof wierd since im 15 but yeah that mite have had something to do with it

i saw her with her boyfriend today and dident completly freak out so my frame is becoming solid again.

Agreed with this guy, talk to other girls and get some DHV! You've really lowered your own value by seeming desperate. You need to lay off this one girl, challenge your oneitis heads on and go after the next beautiful girl you see, at this point because your aim is this girl you dont want to take things too far with other girls, you just want enough so that you are sorrounded by girls when you see her or next time her and her friends talk you are one of the topics.

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yeah dude we have all been in a similar position and if someone says they havent then they shouldnt be in the game because they are probs an AMOG. I recon you just "stay friends" and while doing so increase your value by seeing other women. This will open you up for other women if this chick doesnt work out AND it will make you seem more 'cool' and collected to her. Its all in value in this case. Just chill and things should work out. But i would still suggest staying friends with this girl but not hitting on her all the time. Like i said, get your value up before you game her.

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yea im in hs too and i used to get oneitis all the time. but i havent for about a year, and it took a harsh rejection to get over my most recent case of oneitis. Seriously time is what helped me best.

hey man im sorry to hear about that, ive been in a similar situation

but to answer your questions in my opinion

1- yes, you can get back with her, what i find is that she was attracted to you that night that you where confident and the life of the party, but when you got back to school she could see your weaknesses in your approach

this means that you've let your emotions show through instead of building on the attraction she had for you

i know this may sound unpleasant, but when tuning (my word for sarging) emotions dont mean shit

say im wrong if you like, but ive noticed that if you can hold them back and focus on the task the chick will pick up on this confidence

once you've gotten even closer to her the trick here is to keep it up until you two are going out/had sex etc.

i think where u went wrong is that after you tuned/sarged her whatever u wanna call it you seemed too desperate for her attention, which she perceived as a weakness, but if you had of played it cool/negged her a little the next day at school she wouldve noticed this immediatly, and would've made her even more attracted to you

my solution is that you start holding your feelings back, keeping it cool around her, focus on the quality of what you say, not the the quantity, and finally i beleive the fact you mentioned she "came online" is important

this obviously means that she has some sort of instant messenger, which is great as it will be incredibly easy to tune her on this

for number 2, i suggest you surprise her by starting a conversation at school, not just saying hello. beleive me, she will definately notice this

as for number 3, i agree with what everyone else has been saying, chat up some other babes and see what happens, you never know she might notice this and take it as a neg that you'd rather go for another chick

as for your game plan, i disagree that you should get another girlfriend

i think in all honesty you should at least try once to get this other chick, as you may regret it later which will impact on your relationship with this next chick

and for some final notes

donnt mention her current bf
dont be afraid to neg her, if she asks why your ignoring her etc, say that your not really and you feel like you 2 should talk more
finally dont feel afraid to call her hot/pretty etc and remember to compliment her in general. i know its pretty effing obvious but no offense it sounds to me like your a little too nervous around her

great responses so far ive added this other girl on msn at first she dident know who it was but then i used that as an excuse to tease her and stuff and i threw in a couple of negs she seemed pretty turned off to it all with short responses i ended the conversation (before it got boring) with alrite im off now, try and be more interesting next time i talk to you she simply said bye back yeah that aint gonna go far i mite have a try with a couple of her friends shes getting a bit too high up on her pedastool for my liking and i think ive been giving her too much attention, anything else to add?

the original girl hasent been on msn lately and i havent talked to her in school much so theres been this void for about a week .. oh and in school shes always on her bfs lap in break times so that shakes my game a little.

finnally i wana say im not that great at "the game" i know the basic structure of most of it i can do negs w.e. my approach anxiety sometimes takes over but less nowdays and its difficult to do much with low value? i really need some practise tho, so any suggestions on where to get it would be helpfull. on msn u have time to think but out in the field i find it difficult. i live in a village with no people whatsoever but i own the shop so do you think if i worked in it, it would help me? and its mainly old people in there sooo..

umm i think thats about it thanks again for your help, i will keep this post reguarly updated so stay tuned

oh and one finall thing if theres anyone in the cornwall area that i could get in touch with it would be great just pm me? if you live near camelford, boscastle, plymouth area and want to meet up that would be even better youll probly need a car though.

Only if you put her on that pedestal.


Lets start with some mistakes in the conversation:

You either negged the shit out of her (which is obviously really bad) and she thinks that you are one overcocky son of a bitch.
OR
Shes giving you a really harsh IOD, which would be becoming unresponsive.

Solution to the negging:
I only neg my girl when shes doing something I don't like. If you neg her on a positive reaction, it will cause negative compliance, so don't!

Teasing her isn't actually negging her, so if she for example claps and you think its funny... You could say "Wow, you know what?.... You look like one of those clapping monkeys! You know?, the ones with cymbals tied to their hands " I have even used this line to open a girl in a concert.

Solution to the IOD:
Neg. When shes really IOD'ing you (and not just teasing, or shit testing you), her goal is to disengage the conversation with you. So if you actually stop the conversation with her at that point, she isn't going to run back to you. To work this one out, you need to catch her attention and be interesting and funny.

Seriously, I have got hot girls by not even using a single neg on her. I was just being interesting, funny and teasing.

2 choices: Neg her, or start being interesting and funny.

And now, the LJBF-land!
Welcome to the LJBF-land, and now remember! There are no simple and easy steps you need to complete to get out of here!

1.Game her.
2.Make her jealous or angry to you by flirting with her friends. If shes angry, she will most likely try to force you back to the LJBF-land and tell you to stop all the gaming. Here answer "If you think you can change me that easily, you are wrong "
3.Continue gaming her.
4.Grrrr bark bark (caveman) or just move on kissing her.

Thats how I did it, and even though it *is and looks easy and simple, it will take a few months.

Good luck

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uhh, the first girl with the boyfriend has buyer's remorse. she's done and you have no chance at all with her anymore. so get a grip on that. it's done.

for this othe rgirl that you negged and shit, it sounds like you didn't really neg her at all. a neg is a slight push that's playful. it's purpose is not to offend a girl. you did just that. i would start reading other books than the game or just get better at mystery method.

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Its not "done". Nothing is "done" while you are still living your life. You can affect everything.

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High school chicks are very wierd, its much harder to run PUA stuff on them as they are much different socially than someone that has been on the earth 10 years more than them, Im not saying don't use PUA shit on them but it probably wont have the exact same effect as chicks in the club.

Edit: Don't give up on chicks, as much as PUAs will say move on don't. In high school finding high quality girls isn't super easy. If stuff is getting too awkward just reset them or freeze them out, persistence will save your ass in the long run.

Jealousy works really well on High school girls, they see seducing men as a game. Take lots of photos with chicks with your arm over her, upload them to facebook/myspace/whatever. Show them that they have competition.