I gotta agree on the porno thing here. For most, I think it can (and probably will) hurt the game.

However, masturbation is more down to an individual level. Masturbation without porno can improve your game as well as ruin it. But I feel the two issues (porno and masturbation) should be treated as separate things here. One can be good while the other isn't, and the two aren't necessarily together all the time.

~ Nag

Man, I totaly agree with you. Everyone is different when it comes to sex. If you feel bad with yourself or towards women after you masturbate, it might have to do with your outlook on things and unresolved issues. Personaly I tried not masturbating for a week and it actually curbed my drive to go out and meet women.

My conclusion is that I love masturbation but it doesn't fullfill me at all so it doesn't keep me from wanting to meet women, quite the contrary.

As for women not liking the stuff they see in porn, I totaly disagree. I recently dated a super inteligent and crative HB8 who totaly loved to gag on my dick, swallow my cum, take it up the ass, and generaly be dominated, she really was into fucking like a pornstar. I totaly respected he as a person, but she liked to be submissive in bed.

Also, you are wrong if you think women don't like porn. I had a girlfriend who worked at a rental house who said she rented more porn videos to women than men. Both she, her manager and her colegue took home porn all the time.

Everybody is different though when it comes to these things, just find out what works for you.

interesting topic. if i masturbate i completely lose my sex drive for the time being. after i have sex with a woman, i immediately want to throw my clothes on and do something else. i think that's a pretty common feeling among guys. we can't help it. but girls think we're assholes if we actually act on it and immediately get dressed lol.

with this one girl, i was actually going limp on her. her tactics just weren't up to par, i guess. she actually said to me during a bj, "are you not enjoying this?!?!?" haha fuck i didn't know what to say..i just said "of course i am". one of the MOST DIFFICULT things to do for me, ever, is trying to concentrate on something else completely in order to keep your boner going, because your sex partner is a huge disappointment and you don't want to be rude lol. at that point i wish i was at home masturbating.

my views for this " I Penetrate not masterbate" Catchy isnt it duh cause its the DAMN TRUTH.

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I had a similar situation once with a girl I quite fancied (HB6.5). It was definitely not anxiousness (I was sober and comfortable) it's just all the making out and foreplay never switched on the sexual button in me, can't really explain it. To make it worse, she was really into it and I basically ended going to third base without being aroused myself (kinda boring really). Afterwards it was really awkwar.

I totally agree, masturbation definitely diminishes my drive and I'm more self-conscious being alpha, whether it concerns my body language or social situations. When the testosterone level is higher, I act way more alpha to both men and women without ever thinking about it, mainly because I will rely more on instinct in social situations, without ever thinking what I should stay or what posture I should take.

Mystery's post:
"If you regularly masturbate, you can easily become
addicted. This addiction comes in the form of daily regularity that curbs your
desire to go out. It also does not allow you to harness your sex drive, which
can be used to motivate yourself to work on wealth-building projects.
If you aren't getting laid on a regular basis (which happens to all of us
from time to time), then don't just choke 'til you're broke. Set a date with
yourself. Only jerk it once a week. If you jerked it today, set the jerk date for
seven days from now. If you don't get a girl between then and now, you'll have
something to look forward to. Make it a good jerk! Use the best porn and
hand lotion. Look forward to it and this will keep you from wasting your life
away jerking it daily and focusing constantly on the pain of not having a
girlfriend.
In the meantime, harness your sex drive and build something."

I would have to agree with the majority of posters here. I wish it werent true (missing NaughtyAmerica.com ) but sadly it is. Porn and masturbation is a two pronged fork that will be a constant prodding in the ass-cheeks of your game...

Yeah, it's pointless if you ask me. Did anyone ask me?

Oh, I guess they didn't.

when i used to wack it regularly it definately took away my drive to meet women, and almost made me lazy, but content with that b/c my needs were being filled. i'm not saying quit altogether but if it's chronic then cut it down.

I haven't masturbated much since studying Tantra, and I can tell a huge difference. Great thread.

ok some of u got some serious misconceptions about how this stuff works...

Firstly, your sperm is not some magical, stablizing substance. There is absolutely NO merit to sperm-having other than to reproduce. The next time you ejaculate look at the amount that comes out...you could drain that much BLOOD out and be completely unnafected.

Secondly, testosterone is NOT a fuel, its a hormone, a chemical that switches on certain genes that make protiens that make you a man. You cannot "use up" testosterone by masturbating or by any other means. Testosterone is lost only when your liver metabolizes it and cleanses it from the body. Masturbation has not been conclusively shown to effect testosterone. What has been shown to reduce it is: excersize (apparently purges the body of poisons and hormones, including testosterone) children (makes evolutionary sense... ) and low socioeconomic status (kinda intuitive right?)

reasons you may feel sleepy or tired after masturbation
- physical exertion
- having relaxed, clear state of mind approaching and during orgasm
- hormones released during orgasm
- body busy putting time and energy into making more jizz

OK continue the discussion but don't say dumb things like I need to keep my magick sperm energy powers in my balls else i'll get depressed and nervous...

I really don't know how anyone can get out of regular masturbation cycle without going crazy. Ive gone like 3 days before giving in, with the internet and TV it makes me so damn horney its retarded.

There was an interesting article written in the Guardian on this very subject a few months ago. The jist of it is that the author and her friends were very disturbed by a growing trend whereby guys seem to think that cumming on a girls face is a normal, standard end to lovemaking.

I've personally been without access to the internet until very recently and I found that a) I am masturbating less (a big part of my masturbating habit is as a cure for boredom I've decided) and b) it was more satisfying using my imagination. I like Mystery's advice on the subject.

If every guy in the world would ejaculate to women's mouth instead of vagina, the world's famine would lower by 0.7%.

So lets get it on guys !

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I think every person just needs to find a healthy schedule for themselves. (Not literally like every tuesday) But I mean obviously teenagers have a lot more hormones so Its probably normal and healthy for them to jerk it 3-5 times a week they are also most likely not getting as much pussy as those in there 20s because sex is a much bigger deal when your a teenager. So as your age progresses it becomes less healthy to jerk it more often due to the fact that your body is producing less hormones and your sex drive is easier fulfilled (assuming your at least decent at pickup)

I feel like it is safe to say that a healthy amount of jerks per week is 5 maximum as a teenager and 2 as an adult. Teenagers produce more testosterone and are also forced to go and socialize at school 5 days a week where adults can pretty much choose to go to work and then come home every day if they want. Socializing becomes an option and if we trick ourselves into thinking that everything we need is inside of our own door then our social life will suffer greatly.

Great post.

But masturbation will only hurt your gaming if you believe so. Its all in your head!

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