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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:46 pm 
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Honestly, it does make a big difference if you're a guy in a wheelchair right? I mean, I used to be a babe magnet (ok lol, not quite but I did well) until I got in a car accident in 12/2005 and now I can't walk and have only gotten 2 girls for a short time since then, and they were nowhere near the quality I used to get. Some of my greatest attributes are compromised; I was a really tall, toned/athletically built guy and now I'm stuck in this wheelchair and have lost my athletic physique due to no cardiovascular activity. I've put on a few pounds esp. in my abdomen because those muscles don't work anymore. What do you suggest I do to give myself the best chance at succeeding again with women? thanks -Lennon
I've never had any experience with this particular subject, nor have I ever been asked about it (to my recollectin.)

From a base brain aspect, here's what is stacked against you. Because you are in the wheelchair, you're going to not going to immediately inspire that "he can save me from sabertooth tigers" attraction switch in women. Also, because you are in a wheelchair, you're going to automatically come across as needy to her subconsciously. She's going to feel that you will need her to do things for you.

However, that's just an automatic first response, and largely in the subconscious... if you are able to keep it there and reverse those realizations from popping up. As long as you are aware you will have to use other body language, tonality, speech patterns, etc. to flip that switch, you should be able to MAKE it not a big deal rather than hope that women don't really care.

It's not their fault that they care... we're programmed a certain way. Men are programmed a certain way as well. It's just a matter of rewiring the way she sees you.

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Hey zip.

If you have been really caught up in a guy, do you forget to ask his name or introduce yourself, or when you do this is it simply becuase you're not interested?
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 Post subject: Solid Approaches
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When I first got into the community, I was told that girls get approached a lot. But, after being in for a while,I've seen that 8s get approached A LOT. <7 get a few. 8+ get approached less than 8s (for various reasons). Also, I've seen good looking girls not get approached for hours at a time.

Also, I think some girls think that a guy just saying 'hi' counts, but that is a really weak attempt and has no chance unless the girl takes the lead. My question ... <finally> ... guesstimate how many times you are approached strongly? Are you approached by so many strong contenders that you actually have to turn down guys you are interested in away? *Honestly* would you like for better quality men to approach you more often?
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Zip

I have posted a question and you have not posted an answer. I believe you simply forgot to read it and therefore I will post it again.
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Hi Zip

This one is real and is happening to me...

A girl at college looks at me for quite a long time (more than 6 months) and gives lots of IOI's like hair, preening and feet/body pointing to me. Then, a friend of this girl listens to me in the hallway saying "oh there is she(her name here)". I'm sure she told her, girls do this haha. Since this happened (3 months ago) she started looking (she looks everyday at every chance but tries to be discrete by not looking directly or pretending she is looking at something else) even more and giving lots of IOI's - I could tell you stories. Her friends also look at me. This girl is known for being extremely picky and has dumped all of the most "cool" guys.
I have had little chats on groups she was in. We exchanged a couple of words only and one day I walked into the male's bathroom an she was there. She became red and really embarassed. Started saying "sooorry" and laughing a bit. After these facts the IOI's became even more intense.

In college parties (2 until now) she looks at me as well. And in one of those parties she saw me with two girls on my arms and looked at us with a very subtle "what's happening?". Again, she might be trying to play with me.

I think it's relevant: I have many friends and also I'm always surrounded by woman. And I am good looking. And when I caught her looking I hold eye contact but she breaks it when she notices she was caught. Lately i've been smiling as well.

What is more possible after all these months?
1)They are just fucking with me and saying "that guy, hihihi, he must like you"
2)She likes me?
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 Post subject: NEW PUA SONG!
PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:06 pm 
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Checkout the new PUA song Mystery Method and Style Life on www.stunpals.com
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Hey zip.

If you have been really caught up in a guy, do you forget to ask his name or introduce yourself, or when you do this is it simply becuase you're not interested?
Either way. If you're vibing really well (you do know what vibing is, right?) then she's not going to ask your name or introduce herself until there is a lull in the conversation and she WANTS it to continue.

If you're not vibing, and the interaction is not going particularly well, then she's not really interested, 99.999% of the time

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 Post subject: Re: NEW PUA SONG!
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Checkout the new PUA song Mystery Method and Style Life on www.stunpals.com
Well, just in the interstes of my own fun, even though I know this is unfortunaltely going to give you more traffic, and maybe that's a win win for both of us...

I did. It was probably the worst thing I've ever heard in my entire life. Now, I am a bitch, but I'm also an honest bitch. I probably would have been a little (just a little) nicer if you hadn't hijacked the forum shamelessly promoting your music and not contributing a damn thing here.

Sir, you are absolutely not welcome on my thread. The guys who post here are quality, and you, sir, have written a song that comes across like a guy who finished The Game, got excited, went half-way through The Venusian Arts handbook (rather than Magic Bullets, which I find hilarious that I can figure out) and decided to write a poorly rhymed, poorly sung, poorly written, shameless tribute to MM (Which Mystery isn't even involved in anymore) and Stylelife Academy.

I really was so uncomfortable that I wanted to cringe.

Now, enough hijacking my own thread.

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 Post subject: Re: Solid Approaches
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When I first got into the community, I was told that girls get approached a lot. But, after being in for a while,I've seen that 8s get approached A LOT. <7 get a few. 8+ get approached less than 8s (for various reasons). Also, I've seen good looking girls not get approached for hours at a time.

Also, I think some girls think that a guy just saying 'hi' counts, but that is a really weak attempt and has no chance unless the girl takes the lead. My question ... <finally> ... guesstimate how many times you are approached strongly? Are you approached by so many strong contenders that you actually have to turn down guys you are interested in away? *Honestly* would you like for better quality men to approach you more often?
It's different for everyone. The thing about the really hot girls not getting approached by anyone who is not a supermodel or is just really really drunk comes from their negative body language and bitch shield physicality. The thing is, they've been hit on so much when they were a bit more inexperienced, they have developed this way of keeping creeps away. Hence, though you see only three guys go up to them, in their past, they've been assaulted and use defenses.

Okay, to your question. I'm approached strongly about twice a night, but that's only if I open myself up. I can pretty much ensure I won't get approached if I don't want to deal with it. Now, I'm not a supermodel, and I'm certainly not a 10, but I'm pretty enough combined with some fierce sexual frame I send out into the world.

Yes I've had to turn down guys I'd actually be interested in (currently very satisfied in my personal life.) However, if he really caught my interest, I wouldn't turn him down to at least give him my number. Then, I'd probably flake out. :P

Of course I'd like better quality men to approach me more often. I'm rooting for you guys, all girls are. We don't wake up in the morning and go, "Oh, GOD, I hope some awesome guy DOSEN'T come up to me and rock my socks off." However, we resent creepos coming up and taking our time away from the martini we are drinking off our workday with.

Does that answer your question? I was a bit unclear on what you were really asking.

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Zip

I have posted a question and you have not posted an answer. I believe you simply forgot to read it and therefore I will post it again.
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Hi Zip

This one is real and is happening to me...

A girl at college looks at me for quite a long time (more than 6 months) and gives lots of IOI's like hair, preening and feet/body pointing to me. Then, a friend of this girl listens to me in the hallway saying "oh there is she(her name here)". I'm sure she told her, girls do this haha. Since this happened (3 months ago) she started looking (she looks everyday at every chance but tries to be discrete by not looking directly or pretending she is looking at something else) even more and giving lots of IOI's - I could tell you stories. Her friends also look at me. This girl is known for being extremely picky and has dumped all of the most "cool" guys.
I have had little chats on groups she was in. We exchanged a couple of words only and one day I walked into the male's bathroom an she was there. She became red and really embarassed. Started saying "sooorry" and laughing a bit. After these facts the IOI's became even more intense.

In college parties (2 until now) she looks at me as well. And in one of those parties she saw me with two girls on my arms and looked at us with a very subtle "what's happening?". Again, she might be trying to play with me.

I think it's relevant: I have many friends and also I'm always surrounded by woman. And I am good looking. And when I caught her looking I hold eye contact but she breaks it when she notices she was caught. Lately i've been smiling as well.

What is more possible after all these months?
1)They are just fucking with me and saying "that guy, hihihi, he must like you"
2)She likes me?
Dude, so sorry I missed your question. Guys, if I miss anything, NICELY remind me and repost. If you get huffy about your question, I'll probably get all vindictive female on you and chew you out for being rude.

This reminder is a perfect example. I just missed it. He just asked about it. Situation shall be taken care of.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:16 pm 
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Dude, so sorry I missed your question. Guys, if I miss anything, NICELY remind me and repost. If you get huffy about your question, I'll probably get all vindictive female on you and chew you out for being rude.

This reminder is a perfect example. I just missed it. He just asked about it. Situation shall be taken care of.
ahahahahah

I think you got me wrong :)
As we both know, this is a web based forum and sometimes what we say can be misunderstood... reading my post again I think it sounded like I was mad at you.. which definetly was not the case.

So, Zip, if you could give me your advice, and also answer a new question I have, I'd be very glad.

Yesterday I was talking to a teacher and my oneitis was coming down the hall with her friends. Then she stopped by as if she was going to ask something to our maths teacher. The thing is she stopped right beside me (really close) and didn't say nothing. When I left, she stayed there for a couple of seconds and walked away as well. Do you think this is a sign? I see it as too obvious so it gets me thinking

And don't go thinking I was being rude! Remember I am not a native english speaker :wink:
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Santos.

I think YOU got it wrong :P

Hehe, Zip was saying that how you reminded her about the question was perfect. You were not huffy or anything. So do not worry my man!
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It is possible but as she didn't answer my question I think there was a bit of irony on her answer.
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Oh right!
Well I'm sure your reminder was fine!

We saw what happens when this topic gets off topic! :P So we shall leave it at that! ;)

Looking forward to your reply too Zip, thanks for all you do.

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 Post subject: Re: NEW PUA SONG!
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Well, just in the interstes of my own fun, even though I know this is unfortunaltely going to give you more traffic, and maybe that's a win win for both of us...

I did. It was probably the worst thing I've ever heard in my entire life. Now, I am a bitch, but I'm also an honest bitch.
Ha! That means my music is better! Take that, you spam-flooding sack of something. No, I'm not going to provide a link to my music here (and everwhere else with the copy/paste function) cuz that would be FLOODING. I am, however, kinda hi-jacking this thread again. :P

Hold on lemme ask a question so I can salvage at least some of my good name to be a good example as a mod... uhhhhhhhhhhh

Zip,
What has been your biggest challenge thus far as a pickup instructor, and how did you overcome it? In what way(s) did you learn/grow from the experience?
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 Post subject: Re: NEW PUA SONG!
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Well, just in the interstes of my own fun, even though I know this is unfortunaltely going to give you more traffic, and maybe that's a win win for both of us...

I did. It was probably the worst thing I've ever heard in my entire life. Now, I am a bitch, but I'm also an honest bitch.
Ha! That means my music is better! Take that, you spam-flooding sack of something. No, I'm not going to provide a link to my music here (and everwhere else with the copy/paste function) cuz that would be FLOODING. I am, however, kinda hi-jacking this thread again. :P

Hold on lemme ask a question so I can salvage at least some of my good name to be a good example as a mod... uhhhhhhhhhhh

Zip,
What has been your biggest challenge thus far as a pickup instructor, and how did you overcome it? In what way(s) did you learn/grow from the experience?
The guy sings a lot like me. The only difference is, I know I suck so I don't post my arias in the shower on the Internet in hopes of wooing a hottie.

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