gonna call tomorrow and say - thanks for calling me so much on Monday night, you must have been having fun - had my phone turned on silent to sleep (that's a a lie, but who cares) - sorry I could only text you yesterday, was gonna call but had a bunch of stuff going on with school...we had fun that first night, but I don't have a whole lot of time to chase you around so part of you being happy to cook dinner is actually cooking it - I'm free tomorrow night - can be there at 8 unless I stop for wine so let's say 8:15



How is that?

Drop that. The rest works.

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I don't remember what he said, so I'm not gonna address that, I just wanna say that when you are against making rules, maybe you shouldn't make ones like setting a timeline on when it's ok to neg. Personally, I'll neg her whenever I feel it's appropriate, which may even be during, or after sex. Shocking, perhaps, but that's the whole point.

I had a Day 2 with a girl at a club last week, when I kissed her, it wasn't enthusiastic enough, or passionate enough for my taste, so I said something like, "Not too bad" but in a fairly dissinterested manner. After that, she was fighting for me to give her approval with her kisses. I got her to give me a lift home and I don't need to ask her to come in, she comes in and puts a bunch of effort into showing me she can do better, because after she gave me a real deep passionate kiss in my bedroom, she looks me in the eye and asks, "Is that better now?"

A little neg can do wonders if you know where to use it. I told the last girl I was with that she needed to have the stamina to keep up with me, so the next time we were together we ended up going at it all night. I negged her about 5 minutes after we'd finished having sex, which is way past the kiss, so I don't think that your rule should be a rule; perhaps more of a guideline for those that aren't yet used to reading girls well enough, although even with that, how will they ever learn unless they make the mistakes?

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i think too much emphasis is put just on this one girl.......

seems like you're dying to cook for her!! lol

How many other options (girls) do you have?, personally i think you showed too much interest at the end of the dinner.....
if she is your only option, there's a problem

when she knew you were available to her the challenge was gone, and when thats gone, all the cocky funny in the world wont save it....

taking girls to places that cost a lot of cash for first dates is a no-no in itself as it causes these problems, take a girl for a cup of coffee, then a stroll in the park, shopping with you, take her to borders bookstore and look for books ... (see if she looks around herself or if she follows you around like a lost dog- a test to judge her independance and confidence).... these are just ideas i have used with success, as you dont waste money on flaky girls, you get to see them in a casual environment and its just different to what every other dick is doing......just make the interaction fun and casual... dinners and movies are no-no's.......


i would treat this girl as practice and see how far you can push the boundaries...

p.s dont send multiple texts..... (shows too much availability)

Well apparently he's not delivering it right or he's conveying her reaction to us wrongly.

You'll just have to trust me that what I said while kissing her was NOT a problem. She was eating it up and kept kissing me more and saying "is that better?"

I have not handled it perfectly by any means, but the kissing thing I handled like a dream.

This is about me, let's not make this thread about you and rye disagreeing on something

Anyway,

I was...then I changed it around and told her to cook for me. She responded very well to that - like a normal person in fact, then went back to whatever testing she is doing. The fact that she called me at 2am after being out shows there is interest - but if that was something she'll act on when she's not been drinking is another story.

I've got other options - none are HB9.5sWe had three drinks on the water in DC - that add up to $50. I know, I should have just paid.

You are overthinking this like a mother fucker. I understand that you want help with her, but you have to calm down and relax about the situation. YOu are quesitoning everytime she wants to contact you like it is a mistake. Girls are gonna run their games too.

This girl is 23, and probably immature as fuck. Your texts seem to be like short stories. Its like a recap of your date and the times she has contacted you. Just roll with it. Its much more sexy that way.


I dont like this call or text. I like this better.

"Yesterday was CRAZY, I could only text you, was gonna call but had a bunch of stuff going on with school...we had fun that first night, but I don't have a whole lot of time this week - I'm free tomorrow night - can be there at 8 unless I stop for wine so let's say 8:15"

Its shorter and more direct to the point.

Quit bringing up the shit about her calling you. If you do, something like "All those drunk dials the other night, I could barely sleep!! Next late night call better be a booty call." I dunno, some stupid shit like...

Good luck bro.

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Dude, you were doing a good job with her, stop second guessing yourself. There is nothing wrong with making her pay a portion of the bill, it set you apart and surprised her in a good way. Next time, if you ask her out, pay the bill. When she asks you out, make her pay the bill.

But you really do need to get a move on right now, the longer you wait the more likely it is she'll forget about you and move on. She has a lot of options, and she has men hitting on her all the time. She's attractive and she knows it, and although I see a lot of initial attraction I do not see the level of comfort built between you two that would keep this thing hot while you're apart. The more of this SMS and calling crap the less likely it is you'll close the deal.

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haha u sound like u got enough game to not be posting for advice in little black letters man...
But you know what would just suck? If she ever stumbled across this site and saw your exact txt message exchange....haha the chances are about the same as a winning lottery ticket falling out of the sky and jamming the gun of a ninja sniper who was standing on your roof about to kill you but still it would be hilariously terrible if it happened...i suggest you edit them and make them a bit less specific.

Talk about paranoia.

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so hilariously terrible that I would never dream of doing anything to prevent it from happening...

I think I've got some game for sure, I get a fair share of chicks and the HB7s and 8s are no problem, it's when you kick it up a notch that I get all dizzy.

felt good to hear someone else say it...thanks

The call was made, message was left (I teach 3rd grade for any newcomers to this epic) (of course, add fun tone and not give a shit attitude):

"All those drunk dials the other night, I could barely sleep!! Yesterday was CRAZY, I could only text you, was gonna call but had a bunch of stuff going on with school, and it's more of the same tonight - it's just 6th grade graduation, not like you have to do anything to graduate from 6th grade but show up, anyway..we had fun that first night, we should do it again - I don't have a whole lot of time this week - but I am free tomorrow night - can be there at 8 unless I stop for wine so let's say 8:15...later"

ahaha if only your little students knew...

Well, she missed our 'date' haha

Just curious as to what the opinions are on if I should try again...she did call me 4 times in one night.

I read somewhere on here that guys like to relax and girls thrive on stress...she seemed to respond big time to negging, be it the kissing comment or when I told her she was obviously confused and I think the last two messages were probably too nice...

anyway, a final attempt (not tonight or even before next week of course)?

Again, thanks a lot for the input from everyone - some of you guys are good!