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doctor you nailed that one, bang on


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I'm a shit dancer, and can't dance until I'm drunk.

Then I dance my arse off and realize I had a lot of fucking fun. Once I'm drunk, I'll confidently approach HB9s, with "Will you dance with me", and they love it.

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Nicely put Doc.

The one thing I dislike about the dance floor, is what you mentioned about buying temp. I don't like girls with a high buying temp, because they'll fuck anyone or anything, they're just horny and wanna get off. I'm much more interested in building ATTRACTION between them and me, so that even if I walk off, even if I send her away and tell her to go hang out with her friends with a while, while I talk with a student, or one of my friends; I can be perfectly confident that even an hour and a half later, she's gonna call me and ask where I am, so she can find ME and not just some other guy that wants to take her home, cause she wants ME and ONLY ME.

Yes, this happened last night, I'm training a girl I just broke up with to be a pivot and help instruct as well when I'm doing workshops. I told the girl I was running game on that I needed to talk to my pivot and teach her a few things, told her to go find her friends and have some fun for a bit, then come find me so we could head out. If she just had high buying temp and was horny, then she would have been prone to leaving with any guy that found her in that state, instead she called and found me so that she could have ME.

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Plus you get guys like me who open sets who I've seen very recently leave a guy on the dance floor... why? Buying temp, she's all hot and heavy and he just got tossed aside... not to sound like a dick, but that guy did a bunch of work for me, nice of him.
nice, i never thought of this, but i will be looking for these girls next time i'm near a dance floor.


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but fact is....that's a lot of looking stupid in public for awhile. Not to mention looking bad to the girl.
Pickup is a performing art. If you're not willing to push past your comfort zone to look stupid in front of people (while being fine with it), you CAN'T be a PUA.

This is why Jlaix makes his students do Karaoke. Singing on stage is very analogous to running a set.
Hm, there's a great correlation there, I'd never thought about it. I mean, I act, and I know that's been a big help to my pickup stuff in terms of image presentation and being quick on my feet, but I hadn't thought about it in terms of being used to stage fright, as it were.
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I agree that the dance floor is a trap if your trying to "open" on it. Meaning don't go out there and try to dance with girls you havent opened yet... well unless you have a pivot/pawn and know how to use her specific to that situation. The trap I see guys falling into is going out there dancing it up with a girl for a couple songs getting all hot and heavy then the song ends... the girl walks off. And Now your Dancefloor guy, it's getting pidgeonholed just like LJBF it's like LJBDP (Dance Partners)... Its hard to transition because now she closed the set on her terms, not you, and if you follow her your supplicating and showing neediness.
Then they ain't doin somethin right. I've opened many girls ON the floor, vibed for the rest of the night, and #closed. Many times with a girl I've never met before I won't even talk to her, I'll just go up, beckon, take her hand, and go to the floor. But maybe regular Top 40/R&B clubs are different. At salsa clubs, the girls come to dance and most of them are NOT gonna have a long conversation with some stranger who walks up (because that means he's overtly trying to pick her up) when she could be out on the floor. If I prove myself on the floor, that says a lot without actually having to blabber to her and buys me a lot of interest and tells her that it's worth investing some of the next portion of her evening to sit and talk to me.


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get there kind of early and dance by yourself on the dance floor. make sure there are a few women dancing, but not too crowded. you will get molested...as i have. its kind of funny

if there arent a lot of people dancing, then women will choose you. if its packed, u have to choose them, which can be difficult because some bitches go out to just dance with themselves.


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GREAT point. That's very true. I don't get to the club really early very often, but I have two or three times recently, and each time I and someone else got out on the floor alone to encourage others to dance. Each of those times, as SOON as I got off the floor, some other girl immediately threw her hooks into me.

The first time, a blushing cougar who couldn't believe she was approaching a guy instead of the other way around coyly walked up and asked me to teach her and her friend. The second time, I was actually still in in the process of leaving the floor when a cute, deliciously built 8 beelined up to me and became my partner and sole target for the next two hours. And a couple of weekends ago, after a quick turn on the floor with a friend, I noticed my bartender buddy eyeing me very intently. Confused, I went back to see what was up, and he gestured to a massive group of 20something hotties and said, "...These ladies would like to speak with you." I was like holy shit, I've hit the god damned motherload LMAO. It was a bachelorette party, and the whole fucking group was 8s and up. They swarmed around me, showering me with compliments. I'm amazed I stayed cool because I was really blown away that time. They said, "Our friend's getting married next weekend and we really want her to have a good time. Will you dance with her?" I leaned back on the bar and said, "I don't dance with taken women," lying through my teeth. They buttered me up some more, so I smiled and relented, and they took lots of pictures while I danced with the bride-to-be. She wasn't very good, but she had a great time and she was the key in, and after one song I led her off and proceeded to work my way through half the group, charming the living hell out of all those beautiful girls one by one. It was one of those situations you really think only happen in movies...but yeah. Not so.

So yeah, BIG-time DHVs to be had from getting on an empty dance floor if you can work it like you own it. Hmm...damn. Now that I think about it, every time I've gone to the club early and danced one song alone on the floor, it's kicked off one of my best pickup nights. I need to get to the club early again ASAP.


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yeah and it doesnt even have to be an empty dance floor either. as long as there arent a lot of people dancing, u can still have very good luck

awesome stories man 8)


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