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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:45 am 
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so there is this girl i have liked for a couple years, but has had a boyfriend. i was hanging out with her one on one and she ended up coming back to my place. i kissed her but she wouldnt really engage in it more than just a quick kiss because she felt bad about her boyfriend. she said she has liked me for a really long time as well and that things arent going well with the bf so she plans to break up with him soon.

2 weeks pass, i see her a couple more times and kiss her a couple more times...almost make out with her but still she feels bad about boyfriend who she has tried to break up with but apparently failed because he got to upset.

im trying not to act too interested in her, though now i feel like my cards are on the table. i usually talk to her about everyday via txt or aim, and i try not to be the one that initiates it every time though right now the conversations are slightly more dominated by me. she has been acting kind of flaky recently. i have been out of town and we just finished with exams but still for some reason things seem a little different. i could be over analyzing. also she hasnt broken up with bf yet.

what should i do?

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:14 pm 
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What a psycho bitch.

I would proceed by laying on boyfriend destroyers & follow up with Gunwitch method. Stop projecting the image of a friend; project the image of a fierce sex fiend. Having known her for years, you will have to transition smoothly but forcefully.

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You should cut back on the pressure, for starters. Let her make her decision naturally.

Second, you should be straight up with her, and give her the bottom line- you or him, make the choice.

Remember, high-valued males don't wait on potential mates.

It sounds to me like she's dancing around the issue to get the best of both you guys. Don't let someone play you.

And as far as her being busy or a flake, I'd say both. She's using her busy schedule as an excuse to dodge you.

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You should cut back on the pressure, for starters. Let her make her decision naturally.

Second, you should be straight up with her, and give her the bottom line- you or him, make the choice.
THat seems to be a oxymoron. I can agree with the first paragraph, but with the second (i agree).

Set an ultimatum, lay down the law. :) Don't waste your time waiting.

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ok so update on what happened:

i backed off a bit, sent her one txt yesterday asking if she wanted to go on an adventure....haha it really wasnt as corny as it sounds, probably more situational humor....i dont think i would normally start a convo with a girl saying do you want to go on an adventure...anyhow so heres what happened lastnight after she said yes


she txts me around 10 and asks if im coming over. i txt her back and tell her to call me. she does and tells me she is at her place with a friend and her boyfriend and they are drinking and watching tv, she invites me to come over. i tell her i will come at some point probably. i sit down in my room and play some ocarina of time for an hour or so and then walk over there. i go in and see them. boyfriend is there, she hasnt told him anything at this point. i stay for like 5 min and then ask if they want to go out to the bar. the bf says he has to stay in to study. she repeatedly asks him if he wants to go, he keeps saying no. i invite him to come as well but he keeps insisting that he has to go study. they kind of awkwardly sit there looking at each other while i stand waiting so i am like

"hey, i have to go meet my friend, he is waiting for me there, if you want to carpool now is the time to make your decision"

so she says she is coming and then we leave. it is about 12:40 when we get to the bar. at bar my friend is winging for me and we steadily escalate kino at bar and flirt and joke that sort of thing. after a couple drinks i decide im going to try to kiss her again. great success! i make out with her several times at the bar. my friend informs me that we should go to a hot tub and hang out and then he will leave. i say sounds good, but he has to present the idea. he does. we leave the bar and go to hot tub. i end up getting her completely naked in sauna and finger her. my friend left. i am really hot at this point because we have been fooling around in a sauna for about an hour so i tell her we have to go take a shower. we go do that also naked....anyhow at the end of the night she comes back to my place. we make out for awhile and i get her naked and then put her hands on my boxers so that she will take them off for me. she does and shortly there after we end up having sex....

short lived :( because she says my name in a sort of guilty pleading fashion so i ask if she wants to stop. she says yes and i back off and lay down next to her. we make out some more and talk about what is going on with the boyfriend. she keeps telling me throughout the night that she really really likes me, and keeps asking me not to hurt her. Now i have pretty much the entire night been telling her she needs to go ahead and actually break up with him and quit backing down because he is upset. i told her she isnt doing him any favors by drawing it out....that sort of thing...so just let it be known that i brought it up several times that she needed to end things with him and give us a shot. in the morning i walk her back to her place and make out with her one last time at her door before leaving. she watches me walk away down the street before going inside. this is at about 7:40am.

so at this point i am thinking its probably about time for a victory dance. wrong.

i get a txt at about 4:40pm same day saying:

"so, i told my boyfriend what happened. i dont know how we got here but i cant do it-im sorry-dont hate me."

i tried calling her back but she must have immediately turned her phone off.

does anyone have any perspective on this? any suggestions?

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wow, dude. i would say... back. off. this girls got issues and no matter how bad you like her your in for a world of hurt if you keep pursuing her. Back off COMPLETELY, dont call or talk to her at all, block her on your aim. let her know that your not going to be pulled around and played with like a doll. and if she happens to call you tell her you're not going to talk to her unless shes single because you dont want to deal with her drama.


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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:17 am 
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Not to insalt your pray but she sounds like a drama queen who loves to mix shit up.If it were me id move on. Women like this are dangerous to get in involved with. How every if you want to see her again, freezer her out.. If she wants to see you, she'll make time.

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That is some sound advice above. I will give you the same!

Dude, she did you a favor! She's the worst type of GF ever! I feel sorry for her BF.

Wow, those are the type of girls that fuck up guys... You should've just boned her, but you seemed to want more which is foolish, since (i mean i don't want to sound like a smart ass even though in retrospect it will) she was playing you from the get go.
It didn't seem that she ever had the intention of breaking up with him.

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Not to be redundant, but...
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What a psycho bitch.
You did well, my friend. But trying to convince someone to break up is the wrong approach! You should proceed to build attraction and really really work on putting YOU in her mind in place of HIM. Be subtle.

But you asked a leading question by asking if she wants to stop having sex. That's not something that should enter your mind, but if you want to be a gentleman you can ask a less-leading question like, do you wanna slow down, etc.

The biggest thing to remember here is: ultimatums are given only by people who feel that they are not in control anymore.

Bottom line is, don't do it!!!!


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This is an interesting story, to say the least. It seems, based on how you describe her, that there is more than just a physical connection. She may be worth pursuing, but she clearly has a lot on her plate right now.

I would recommend that you give her space, but at the same time maintain contact with her every now and again. Spike a phone call every couple weeks or so, you never know when she might turn around and call you back....in the greater reality of things, you have nothing to lose.

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you never know when she might turn around and call you back....in the greater reality of things, you have nothing to lose.
Just getting infatuated with the worst person ever...

(sry if that's a bit harsh gecko, but just being honest)

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