Hi Guys.
Just thought Id post this after yet another setback in my quest to change my life.
This is just a post to say Im at totally rock bottom of my life, one set back, kick in the teeth and tragedy after another, and how many people can say they are approaching 25 without ever even getting close to a girl?
In my life people have stabbed me in the back, treated me like a idiot and lied to me! Even if my life was to sort itself out somehow how would I be able to make up for the time lost, the fact is the majority of my life has been shit beyond repair and the best years of my life lost.
I wonder if Its even worth living another year like this, my life has been like a life sentence and I know I havent deserved a bit of it.
Things cant sort themselves out now, how can fate ever repair the damage that its done to me?
No looks, riddled with bad luck and memories full of tragedy, people laughing behind my back and treating me like a idiot.
Maybe its lifes way of telling me im better off dead.
To spend life fearing living more than death is a horrible feeling.
Ive tried counselling and various other things and nothing has worked, maybe ending my life maybe the only solution to end my unhappiness.

If thats your sad pathetic way out, go for it.

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I'd rather go out swinging than strike out looking.
A lifestyle is a terrible thing to waste.
What I say when I see her is what I'll say.

You dont have a fucking clue about what ive been through so your in no fucking position to judge me you arsehole

I know exactly how you feel, because I was in this situation all last month, and I'm not just starting to get out of it, because I've rediscovered the pickup arts again. It gives me something to focus my mind on and gives me hope that I can turn my life around. We'll see where that goes in the next few months.

I feel like I've wasted a lot of my 'good years', too, but I honestly do believe that age is just a number and 25 is still REALLY young. Most people are in their 40's - 60's and they're just discovering what you discovered right now - that they've wasted a lot of time. It's called a mid-life crisis. Think of it this way. You're STILL young, and you STILL have time to turn things around, and you're going through your 'mid life crisis' right now instead of 20 years from now like most people do.

What seems to be the problems you have specifically? If it makes you feel better, go ahead and talk about some of the things that are on your mind. I'm listening.

I think what Ice is saying, and I wholeheartedly agree with him, is that suicide is the pussy's escape. It's saying, "Life took me on, and it beat me fair and square. There's nothing worth living for anymore."

They always say, "A man is at his most dangerous when he has nothing to lose." Now I don't know your situation, and in my experience, people always have something to lose. You could live in Ethiopia and have watched you whole family get murdered before your eyes. You could be addicted to heroin and be living by sucking dick for extra cash to buy it. Hell, you could be 45 and be in this situation.

But if you really feel like you have nothing to lose--good! What is holding you back from doing anything? What fear could possibly keep you down?

Even if you completely suck fucking balls and dance, in 20 years, if you practiced every day, you would be a good dancer. And even if you suck balls at relationships with other people, if you study and apply yourself and keep learning--you will be good.

But in the end, it's about YOU making a CHOICE. No matter who you are, other people have had it worse and bounced back. The champions are the ones who have faced adversity, hit rock bottom, and rose to the top again.

But I won't bullshit you, it'll be hard work. So if you're not interested in that, you can wallow in your misery for the rest of your life, however long it is.



You can thank me or call me an arsehole, but actions speak louder than words. People here and elsewhere can help, but it's up to you. No one can drag you to success. And honestly, I've already offered my help via the boards and PM and you've not responded, so this will be the last time I attempt to encourage you.

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Lo' there do I see the line of My People, back to the beginning.
Lo' they do call to me, they bid me take my place among them.
in the Halls of Valhalla, where the brave may live forever.

Hey Resurrection08.....dude ur just having a bad couple of months....2 months ago i was at rock bottom man i was with my ex GF for about 4 years...she was my high school sweetheart n shit and well she cheated on me. I felt like i wanted to die man i shit u not. Not only that im a very active person....i work out and i play soccer....soccer is my passion its my life.....and soon after that i tore my meniscus....so now i didnt have a GF and i couldnt walk and i didnt feel like doing shit....i was depressed to the extreme, I was in isolation for like 3 straight weeks not wanting to go to school or go to work or even go out with my friends. It was a bad 3 weeks until i realized that crying over this and just wishing for things to happen was not enough. I let my emotions out to my family and closest friends....thats when one of my buddies told me about the PUA game. Ever since then i totally changed my attitude towards life and towards the people that really care about me.....which are friends and family....now i feel like im on top of the world ive been going out alot and been meeting new people and im back to playing soccer....all this shit just makes me happy....u just gotta let ur emotions out man and change ur attitude and start doing things that make you happy.....hope this helps......

people have been through worse than you, and found a way out. I guarantee it

Most of us here have led some pretty tragic lives. I know I am constantly plagued by bad luck, to the point of feeling cursed, but that doesn't stop me from living my life, because no matter how by my luck is, I'm not dead yet and I always end up dealing with it, because I fight, I don't just roll over.

When I say bad luck, I mean I've lost tens of thousands of dollars, I've been robbed by my "best friends", I've had girls break up with me 2 weeks after they told me they loved me and that no man had ever made them feel like I did, I've been in 4 fucked up car accidents over the past 6 years, I almost die on a monthly basis, the most important person in my life died 2 years ago at the age of 31 for absolutely no reason, just died in his sleep. I could go on and tell you about guys I know that were in deep with serious gangs, dealt drugs, guys that are tens of thousands of dollars in debt, there's guys with serious dissabilities that they struggle with every day and yet they're still living as best they can and trying to be the best they can be for as long as they're here.

Suicide is just another way of rolling over and quiting, but if you keep on working and keep on fighting, then you'll keep living and things will get better, you've just got to try.

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i agree. I think most of the people who study this stuff went through something of there own.

I dont need to know what you been through and quite honestly I really don't care. I don't know you, and by telling the internet you want to kill yourself, it's no wonder why you are in the position you are in.

And yes I am an asshole. Hole heartedly. I tell the truth.

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I'd rather go out swinging than strike out looking.
A lifestyle is a terrible thing to waste.
What I say when I see her is what I'll say.

dude its your fuckin life so do something about it. this is america and we can make whtever we want out of oursleves. why havent you? i dont get it, why are you such a pussy ass bitch.

nvm. i suggest behaving the exact opposite of how u have been behaving. maybe that will cause a 180 degree turn in your life. what u are doing is obviously not working/ satisfying your life so do something DIFFERENT for gods sake. cmon buddy,dont kill yourself bcuz there are countless opportunities for you.

haha, ice, i say this in the kindest way, but u are quite the ass. its quite comical actually your misanthropic comments.

But seriously, u should read this thread and what i have to say:

oh-fuck-this-vt19601.html?highlight=summons

I have noticed many ppl who come to this forum feeling like u do. I recommend reading James Joyce's A Little Cloud. Its a short story in his book Dubliners.

In essence its a story we should all read. Its quite esoteric at times but a repeating theme throughout the novel is that our mistakes and ordeals are a portal towards self-discovery. The story is basically about a man named Little Chandler and his bitterness towards his own pathetic, mediocre life. Read the ending for there's the epiphany. AND LISTEN TO ME!!! IF THERE IS A BOOK THAT CAN CHANGE YOUR PERSPECTIVE FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE, IT IS THIS STORY. THIS STORY TOTALLY CHANGED MY VIEW FROM PESSIMIST TO OPTIMISM. PM me if you want me to help you understand it.

Another story of Joyce's I recommend is Araby from Dubliners. Its a story of a boy suffering from one-itis and his journey towards realizing this girl is the same as just the others. When he understands this, he loses his childish naiveness as well as his idealism and innocence.

You could probably find the online text to these stories and they are quite short actually. Enjoy.

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"Veni, vidi, vici."
"I came, I saw, I conquered"
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Find out if you are bipolar or have some other form of depression and get medication prescribed. Go to a psychologist and get more consultation.

If you do not have biochemically induced depression, then it's the accumulated negative experiences in your life. All I can say is a lot of us on this forum are dealing with it and going through it like you are, and that you are not alone. Check out the thread in my signature to see the problem I've had for years.

Anyways, realize that you are the only one who can change or snap you out of your current state of mind. You have the power to do what is necessary to start enjoying life. So start out by diagnosing if your problem is psychological, physiological, or both, and go do something about it. Remember, only you have the power to heal yourself.

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hey man.. someone already mentioned it, but take a look at this thread..
oh-fuck-this-vt19601.html
i'm giving you the same advice that i gave him
just remember that you're not alone

I can't help but spoil it.

The epiphany of A Little Cloud story is that Little Chandler is responsible for his own unhappiness and mediocre life at his pathetic reluctance to go out and change it. Remember, it ultimately comes back to us to become happy. See the positive things to life and live it.

Once you realize its your own reluctance as the source of your unhappiness (i.e. Not having a girl at the age of 25) then only will you realize that you have the power and resources to change it. That's why the PUA community is here.

I believe the PUA community is not just a bunch of creepy men looking for ways to get laid. Its a way to help men out of their shells and find their own rhythm towards expressing themselves. Remember love is a crucial, if not the crucial, component to life.

Peace.

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"Veni, vidi, vici."
"I came, I saw, I conquered"
-Julius Caesar