EXCATAMENTO!!!! thats why i personally think people should master David Dangeloss 77 laws! That what i personally used to build my inner game. thats what i have been telling people to do when the PM me about it! I you can master at least 10 to 15 of those laws then sucess will come with ease in the octberman! It about frame control!!!
The routine
1.elict a vale
2.turn into a symbol
3.mainpulate the symbol
4.Link it to you

BUT it how and what yo do in each step it critial
1.establishing athoruity (i take teacher frame)
2.How you talk (suductive,clear and deep)
3.The description WHICH I FEEL IS VITAL (symbolic morpholigy)
4.Kino is Super important as well! (Trace the energy through her body)
5.electing the trance to begin with ( You need to to get the routine started)

The octoberman is kinda like chess. Their are set moves, but the results are unpridictable!! But that unpridicable Always falls in my favor! Dont let ANYBODY tell you its a bunch of hype b/c its not! is the real deal! Anchoring GREAT feeling of pleasure to you!

I also think "the secret" would help as well (the dvd 4 frame control)
I only said that b/c everybody is acting like the Octoberman is evil! it not evil! IF you can give intense pleasure to a female why not? It what she wants anyway! its what we all want to be pleasured! But the OMS can become like a drug. My thing is so what? who cares? If you dont like the OMS or me get the fuck off the thread then!
I just said that "mega diabolical" thing since im considered a "Bad man" on this forum! who cares if you can make women feel good, and make them feel pleasured! i have Ran the OMS on myself and linked those feelings to a Purple dot on my wall. Its a Reminder to FEEL GREAT AND BE HAPPY. whats so wrong with that?

I don't know how many of you guys have seen the Annihilation Method. But style teaches us how to elicit values, but thats not evil, its just creating attraction. However it is NLP, most of pickup is, and the PUGs know this, we are "manipulating" girls to like us by making them feel feelings and associate them with us because we are the ones doing it. When i heard about OMS i thought it was immoral, but listen to it, all it is is some techniques (most of which you guys use ANYWAY) put together to enable us to pick up women faster and more efficiently and with a couple extra steps added. To be honest i use OMS every time i sarge, however i use it to create attraction in the same way you guys do, you just dont realise its OMS. As someone said its a sequence, not a script.

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That's pretty cool. It looks like he was anchoring feelings of uncertainty to her left shoulder and feelings of certainty to her right. I want to try that.

Where can i get access to David DeAngelos' 77 Laws?

I've been researching the OMS, and i refuse to pay 77USD for it so ive been coming across bits and pieces of it from different people and searches.

I'm not extremely familiar with NLP but I'm aware of the clear communication and body language that must be used in this sequence.

My question is, is there a right and wrong way to do it?

I've come across methods that are similar to Neil Strauss' briefly described way in The Game bringing out pleasure and increasing it, to anchoring pain and pleasure and bringing out the "inner" women inside of her using a Natural Woman Pattern. All methods seem to have a common bond of using anchors to stimuli a deep connection between you and your target, not necessarily sexual from what i can see so far.

Anyways, did i come across the real OMS? or is this janx really forbidden.

I would like to learn this sequence.

Well theirs no wrong way to do The OMS. it has to deal with your "frame" and your intent. The stronger the two are the better the results! O yea A seductive tone will help along with lots of kino

i think its rape. as soon as i looked more into it i said forget this shit. your tricking a girl to sleep with you... which in my eyes is pretty low.

i dont think anybody should be messin with this.

Ok, so you've scared me and made me curious with all this hypnosis talk. Now I want to know more about it. Where do I start? I want to inform myself correctly before I mess with this. Can you post some web sites and books to get started with NLP, octoberman and hypnosis? Thanks guys.

Well nobody asked 4 yr personal opinion but ok! plus being a PUA is about tricking girls 2 sleep with you anyway. The OMS is not a skill 4 me anymore its part of who i am. But i kinda feel like im just repeating myself over and over again.

With the OMS i have Fucked plenty of Women my age (18) older women (30-45+) fucked up many relationships. I feel i got my worth out of this stuff. JUST LIKE HOW YOU BENAFIT FROM BEING A PUA

I find it funny how you don't see the irony in this, and how wrong that is on so many levels.
Dead wrong. You, sir, are no PUA.
I really can't believe you said that. But, then again, I'm not surprised that you hold these kinds of beliefs.
Quite frankly, you're scaring me. People like you are the reason that forbidden patterns are forbidden in the first place. Knowing that you possess this knowledge makes me worried for society.
Yeah, you should probably stop that.

Thanks 4 the critique, But ive done fine by myself. IF your not going 2 contribue 2 the thred then GET THE FUCK OFF BITCH! What i do women is MY BUISNESS. AND WHY THE FUCK IS YOUR REP NUMBER SO HIGH AND YOU ONLY BEEN ON THIS SINCE AUG.? All you do is post spend some time in the feild and worry about ur fucking self!

lol
that's funny
just wanted to point out the hilarity of that sentence
(for those who are a bit slower in the head...it's probably ONLY Green Ranger...look at the year in my join date, then look at a calender from this current year)

May I refer you to the subject of this thread, which you started. You asked "Seduction or Rape?" Seems like you asked for the opinion.

It is possible to counter and discuss without flaming. This comment is for everyone.

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..........So what? i still get girls so why would that matter about his feild exp. Im not comparing so why are you? And i dont judge NON OF YALL so why are you judging me. Is a matter of fact WHO ARE YALL TO JUDGE ME? IF i use the OMS or TEACH it guess what its my personal life decition if you feel its wrong its not your place to tell me what to do. Only advise me on a more proper manner to do it. But if you feel that trading instults will do it... OK FINE DO IT! In10se said in his book ATTENTION FLOWS WHERE ENERGY FLOWS so yall being angry is only adding power 4 me 2 teach it more and become more reckless with it. I though being a PUA was about growing not about pulling each other down with insults. I apoligise 4 insulting who ever i did but you must understand i acted out of retaliation not b/c of who yall are as people. BUT if you feel insulting me is the right way to persue this then by all means goahead. But i refuse to participate in any other conversations with you(Hobbit) nor cheif999.

Now if anyone wants to learn the OMS just PM me or post a question about it on here and they will be answerd