Some 'schools' of PUA say that you shouldn't give a woman your name when in set. The theory being that if she asks for it, it's an IOI. I've seen seen that happen a time or two myself while in set, so OK, I can buy that.

Along a similar vein, would it be considered an IOI if a woman introduces herself and immediately gives you her name upon opening?

Here's the situation...

I take the light rail (train...mass transit) into work. The train that I take typically has the same people on the platform every morning, including a woman who, for this, I'll call hbBrunette. I've noticed her on the platform for a few months now. For the last few weeks, we've seem to be eyeing each other a bit more. I've had a couple of opportunities to open her last week, but blew all of them. We turned out to be on the same train home, but didn't realize it until we had gotten off at our station. Walking up the stairs, I was close enough to open, but didn't. I thought she might have been looking back out of the corner of her eye to see if I would open.

This week, I was able to slowly redeem myself slightly when we exchanged a couple of "good mornings" on the platform. A few of those times, she was in a conversation with another guy on the platform seems to be flirting. Based on body language, I don't get the vibe she's interested in him.

Finally on Friday, she got off the same train I did going home. Again, she was close enough to open. After a minute or two, I finally did open with, "Hey, I thought that was you..." and the conversation began. It was mostly just small talk, but two things stuck out. First, she introduced herself and gave me her name almost immediately after I opened. "Oh, hey, I"m <hbBrunette>. We seem to be on the same schedule..." Second, during the conversation, she pointed out the general direction where she lived and seemed to indicated she's close by. "I live in those town houses over there (pointing generally)..." I then pointed out where I lived, also close by. Attitude overall, was fairly positive and open to conversation.

Overall, I'm reading it as generally positive, but It might be too soon to tell, or too little of an interaction. I figured I'd throw it out for review anyway.

Thoughts?

Other than not acting, which you know wasn't good, the only problem I see is that you are afraid to allow a flow to happen. What I mean by that is your statement of the positive vibe being too soon to tell is something that is going to kick you in the ass. Don't be afraid to lose a woman that you don't have. She pointed out where she lives...so make her an offer (hangout, a walk, a drink) and get her number because you guys are so close. Holding back and waiting is a formula for causing the woman to lose interest even if you guys have just met.

This is a report from one of my favorite posters here. Read it and you'll get what I'm trying to explain to you.

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Hmm... A lot of the time I open with "Hi My Name Is Declan..." and it works just fine.
I think you're analyzing far too much. In some cases when she introduces herself with her name she might be IOI'ing you, at other times she might not be. What you want to be gauging to figure out whether she is feeling attracted to you or not is what her feeling state towards you seems to be. What vibes are you getting from her? How does she respond when you flirt with her? This is the sort of stuff you want to be paying attention too.

Always assume positive interactions. That's how i have been transforming myself lately. I don't even bother thinking of all the bad shit that hasn't even happened get to me anymore. If you think negatively you will fullfill your own prophecy without even knowing it.


But kudos for you starting the conversation...

Now, you can save it because guess what, you guys are on the same schedule so I am sure you will see her. Next time push that shit further, go for the number, go for the hangout, it doesn't matter just go for it.


Just today I started talking to my gym staff. I usually don't like to shit where I eat and will keep it that way. I just thought (they see me here like 4 times a week, why not chat up cuties ?) and just started chatting while she was making my shake. Dudes at the gym were just looking at me like " ". I am just rolling my eyes like bruh keep lifting don't watch me watch tv.

I even asserted myself with a girl who was trying to use her cute smile because she didn't fill my shake that i ordered to the top. She even asked me what I thought, should she make a little more ? Most dudes would have been like "oh don't worry about it" but I smiled back at her and said "yup, that's what i want you to do". I teased her that she doesn't cook much does she .

Push man, push.

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Thanks for the feedback, guys! Solid stuff! Just trying to scrape off the rust after getting back into the game after a long lay off.

At very least, I've set myself to continue chatting with her on the train(s) and take it from there.
100% true. 100% agree.
Not the first time I've heard that. Guys in my local lair, when it was still active, used to say the same thing. I work in IT...it goes with the territory.
That's 100% Law of Attraction stuff right there.... I generally do keep a positive mindset, and when I do, good things happen. There was a time in my life where I was very negative, due to negative things happening, and negative things continued to happen.

DEFINITELY don't do this.

But instead do this.

*In before 3-5 thread page debate*

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If it's him engaging in a monologue perhaps.

From the report, I see no pro-action on taking things to the next step

Yesterday, I was having some casual food with my friend and some European women sat hear us (I'm in Asia so being white too helps break the ice I guess) and mentioned about the waiter working his salesman skills on us and they giggled.

I asked him if they are liking Thailand and blah blah and it was their last night. I asked them, they must of crazy plans for their last night here. They said they are going to the cinema. I teased them that they could just torrent that stuff at home and they mentioned they didn't bring their computers with them

It started to feel like excuses at this point but I really wanted to push it to the point where she would just not beat around the bush and say:

'We just don't want to hang out with you guys'

So I asked them, what are they doing after the movie since it is only early evening and invited them to party with us. They said they are going to watch another movie. I just laughed and mentioned '2 movies in a row, on your last night on this continent, wow lol I give up then'

So, nothing happened, but the point is I took it as far as I could get without violating their space. You have to pile on the pressure, in my opinion, take the lead and get to the point where they say yes or no.

I hate leaving interactions where I get in my head say 'I should have said this' blah blah.

I left that interaction knowing that I did all that I could do and I think that is powerful to have.

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Jeez... I dislike these threads where no action is taken. This is a woman on the subway. It's been months. Either she's attracted to you or not at this point. Just ask her out. You like her=ask her out. Fuck whether she says hi first... As long as she isn't telling you to fuck off.. Ask her out.

You like her? Ask her out. That will tell you whether she's interested.

This chick could not be interested... Or she could be. She could have a serious relationship. She could have just gotten diagnosed with cancer. Next week she could be moving for a new job in x city. She could be a lesbian. My point is make your move quickly. This is a fucking girl on a train. A simple invite to go out with you would've answered your question and saved you time.

A few fucking months? You guys game like you're gonna live forever.

Leave no stone unturned. With that in mind, the interaction was a success.

Amen

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OP, you won't know until you make a move.

Of all the time I've spent on this forum, and things I've witnessed and experienced offline, there's no shadow of a doubt that if guys just risked getting rejected and put themselves out there more, we'd see no more "how do I get my ex back" threads. They just wouldn't exist because even though the guy would grieve the relationship (assuming it was an LTR), he'd take solace in knowing the next opportunity is potentially right around the corner.


On the subject of taking your time to make a move. The longer you wait, the far more difficult it becomes to open the girl.